Will Lynda agree that the Grundys are fungis? And is Peggy finally realising that Helen is faaahmly? Await the Ambridge Fairy on The Archers thread.

[PseudoBadger]

"Get outta my village" screams Peggy Mitchell

the late-lamented midwife, daughter of Alan

Amy?

Ps: loving Peggy ...you go granny !

Didn't sound to me like Helen was that happy that the baby was ok. Maybe subconsciously she was hoping it would die. Conceived during a rape by the man she hates.

I think, if she is found not guilty, she should make a deal with Knob and give him the baby if he relinquishes all rights to Henry.

Well Pat hadn't ignored the fact that Hell was being EA and eventually driven to stab an abusive shit head of a husband at that time had she? She's guilty guilty guilty.

^pre-eclampsia does not 'come back'
suddenly during labour ...she became eclamptic not pre eclamptic why do they have such stupid mistakes^

But it wasn't medics saying it - it seems pretty reasonable to me that Tony reporting down a mobile phone line that they rushed her in for an emergency caesarian because of eclampsia could easily be "she got pre-eclampsia again... the pre-eclampsia came back, like last time," by the time it's getting reported onwards.

Although you'do think a good animal farmer would have a bit more idea. Humans aren't the only animals which can get it.

All that was actually said on air was that her blood pressure had gone up so she was rushed off for an emergency c-section. Might just have been a precaution. The endless wailing is really getting me down, I must say. Thank goodness for Game of Thrones.

She said her face felt puffy, Peggy said something like "Don't worry, but I'll call the midwife just in case..."

Oh, look.

www.eadt.co.uk/news/domestic_abuse_plot_on_the_archers_sparks_surge_in_calls_to_women_s_refuges_from_middle_class_victims_1_4545309

Think TA are rather proud of this as they re-tweeted it.

GoT meets TA...

Tyyrion would verbally reduce Rob to zero. Or Brienne or Arya could just lop his head off. I think I'd push Pat out of that tower with the very long drop.

Peggy would get on like a house on fire with Olenna Martell.

I think that she eventually WILL want the baby. But Knob got hold of Henry while it was easy to do so (wife in jail looking guilty of extreme violence), so that he would have massive leverage to get the baby later on. Plus to make sure that Henry says the right things in court. Once he has the baby, he can either keep hold of Henry for permanent leverage (very limited access to the baby), or give him to Pat and Tony (if Helen still in prison).

I think that she eventually WILL want the baby.

She has said (more than once, I think,) that Rob mustn't have the baby, because it wouldn't be safe; although she's also talked about the baby being easier to give up, but she could be referring to third parties other than Rob, such as foster care (I don't know much about such things, but then SOC will do as he will, which may not reflect real life anyway.)

At the time, I thought being easier to give up a boy was a comment on the MBU mother about to lose her child. Helen was thinking she too would have to give up her baby at some point.

Oh dear, not wanting to breastfeed - let alone hold or have a photo - is not a good sign.

I'll kill her if Kirsty takes him back. Argh!! She deserves better.

Kirsty is already into the "here's your sandwiches and flask".

Careful there, lljkk, if this stupid storyline has taught us anything, it's to not go around making murderous threats!

I go away for a couple of days and WTAF?? Gideon?!

Sounds like it keeps getting grimmer every day. It's like The Walking Dead meets Game of Thrones, but in the Englisg countryside, and with no zombies or dragons.

Careful what you say, lljkk, those words could come back and bite you in the arse. Or in court.

Damn you, selsig.

But that poor baby.

Don't worry, Helen left me a little prezzie. I'm all ready. (MANIC GRIN)

Misery heaped on misery. The Archers of the last few months is making me anxious and upset. I can't see any light at the end of any tunnel. Why do we think the SWs agreed that this was a good way to go? None of the other storylines make any sense alongside Helens. I'm really fed up of the relentless downward spiral.

I can't believe Pat hasn't twigged that Rob is messing with Henry's head. If Henry thinks the baby is going to live with them then it's because Rob and Ursula have told him so.
You'd think Pat had learned a something by now!

I quite like Gideon but otherwise this is all very unpleasant.