Will Lynda agree that the Grundys are fungis? And is Peggy finally realising that Helen is faaahmly? Await the Ambridge Fairy on The Archers thread.

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"Get outta my village" screams Peggy Mitchell

I think when the baby is born Pat will say
"I suppose we better tell Rob about the baby.. he is the father after all"
Tony "Whatever you think is best dear"

I presume he can go to court and demand access.

Ha ha ha ha ha!

Michael Gove is loving Hel/Rob and calling for prison reform. (Telegraph)

It's over for this world.

Hang on, Argy, I thought the new emoticon was meant to be a positive thing (eg spirit of community / harmony) but when you offer a it sounds like you are being negative and for that I thought we were going to say -shit (ie bullshit).

Thanks Grauch. Can hear SOC purring from here. It's all been worthwhile.

So Knob will have day release access to SoK. We have that thrill to come

Just reading the government website about birth registration. As far as I can see, Rob is perfectly entitled as the father to go to a registrar after the birth and register a name of his choosing. I can't see that he needs any consent from the mother or proof that he is the father or have the baby with him. He would just need to prove who he was (passport, marriage cert, that sort of thing).

Thinking back, with one or more of my children, while my wife was still in hospital with the newborn, I went and registered the birth on my own - I didn't have the child with me. I suppose there must be some check in the background that I haven't just fabricated the whole thing...?

The piece of paper from medics that say a baby was born.

Presumably if In-Hell decides to breastfeed then the baby will have to stay with her whether Knob wants him/ her or not? As for Piggy-bank going to the birth, well a nice thought, but until relatively recently most women gave birth with just a midwife in attendance didn't they? And I certainly wouldn't want my father in attendance, or is Tony just the taxi service?

Sorry 3D point taken but I'm certainly not the first to have sinned...

Here's the same story in The Guardian with, it seems to me, a teeny, veiled suggestion that our present government is indeed now the official BBC show runner.

Small - I was looking here and there's nothing about bringing a piece of paper from the hospital - after all, you could have a home birth and no medics around. It does suggest that some registrars may ask to see the red book for the child: www.gov.uk/register-birth/overview

Argy - no sin: I don't get to tell other people how to use an emoticon. But like , I guess we do need some consensus on what we mean by it, or we'll all end up .

I'm sure use of the new emoticon will settle down to something everyone's comfortable with in its own time

Has anyone noticed, btw, that Rob has said virtually nothing about the new baby since this happened? He's very keen to have Henwee on hand, but MY SON seems to have really slipped his mind. Bad/forgetful SW, or him being a twat?

I can see absolutely no reason why they shouldn't hand the baby over to Rob after the 6 weeks in the mother and baby unit. There is no reason to think he's anything but an excellent father.

And I don't think you have to take anything to register the baby- but I do think you have to do it in the area the baby's born in-hospitals pass the details on to the registrars.

Would they have to pay any heed to H's gritted teeth pronouncements that he MUSTN'T HAVE THE BABY? Or would they just write it off as the ramblings of a mad woman? (Keep wanting Anna to say, "yes, Helen, and to be fair I am not trying to give Rob the bloody baby, now either keep a civil tongue in your head or you can bloody defend yourself!").

Sorry I really don't understand the emoticon- looks like a nuclear warning sign inside an old fashioned weighing scale. What's it meant to be?

BertrandRussell - the fact that the baby on best advice should ideally be exclusively breast-fed for six months - is not a reason why the baby should stay with its mother? Rather than handed to Rob?
That is why in a Mother and Baby unit the babies stay with the mother for even long term prisoners stay for 7 months.

I do have to say Gove is a bit ridiculous, as attempted murder (or even wounding) would always require a custodial sentence for women. But if he creates more places in mother and baby units, then maybe I can forgive SOC being so irritating a little (good from evil etc).

Oh, I thought they only get 6 weeks in the M&B unit....I must have misread.

If it's 6 months then the trial will have happened so everything will be different. Home for Christmas?

This very interesting article on mother and baby units was linked before - sorry, can't remember who linked it.

is a pub sign for The Bull.

I'm not sure I can handle Pat's wailing for that long, Bertrand. The EA storyline was draining but this is pure misery. I'm still following the story because I want to see Rob's comeuppance but I'm starting to care less and less.

BOOP for Peggy though. I think she will be the key to unlocking Helen. However, given her own experiences with Jack A, I think she will try to broker a truce with Rob/Ursula on the grounds that 'women in my day just got on with it'. Rape in marriage, just like hormones didn't exist.

Am sure this has been picked over already, have got massively behind on these threads, but do barristers really do all this legwork with their clients, especially one as uncommunicative as Helen. I thought this was where the solictor came in and they did a bunch of this stuff and then worked through it with the barrister who decided how to present it in court...

It would really normally be the solicitor doing all the stuff Anna is doing now with Helen, not the barrister.

Today I decided to arrive a bit early at the dentist instead of the audio alternative.

EasyTiger I'm sure the dentist is far more fun than TA at the moment.

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Ahh Bunting

So, has anyone spotted (or used) on a thread outside Radio Addicts*?

*probably should be renamed Archers Addicts as there barely seems to be a thread about anything else these days.