Will Lynda agree that the Grundys are fungis? And is Peggy finally realising that Helen is faaahmly? Await the Ambridge Fairy on The Archers thread.

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"Get outta my village" screams Peggy Mitchell

Snort, Enoch!

I guess we're supposed to assume Anna's doing her job by constantly lending a sympathetic idea and gradually drawing The Truth out of Helen. However, I'm not too impressed by the fact that it doesn't really seem to have occurred to her or Dominic to ask other people.

I suspect criminal barristers are having a rough time at the moment, with their respective clients demanding to know how come they aren't prepared to spend hours travelling to visit each week for cosy chats about what happens in mother and baby units, and to listen to their clients ranting about how unfair it is that they can't be at home with their children.

So Anna's spiffy idea is for Pat to throw herself on the police officer's mercy to be allowed to be there at the birth? Surely it's not up to the police officer, it's up to the CPS and/or the court?

Good on Peggy. Nice to hear one of the bridge farm lot being a bit proactive.

So due date is the 19th as thought.

Will someone please slap Pat around the head with a wet kipper. All this wailing about "I won't be there with my daughter for the birth" ... Pat hasn't been there for Helen for months.
Helen disappeared under house arrest and Pat never even noticed.

Was the SL about going to the GP a vehicle for Pat to get the phone call or for Peggy to mention her heart? Is something going to happen to Peggy before the 100 mile trip?

When Pat said something about not being there when Helen really needed her I was sooo cross! What about the last 2 years?????

Or will Peggy SOHMC at a service station on the way?

I don't think it was implied that it was down to the detective but clearly shears a veto or a strong voice in the decision. Is that realistic? I mean, Pat is not an eyewitness to the attack. What could Helen say to influence the evidence - Helen in the throes of labour:"psst, mum, you remember when Henry revealed the plan to go to boarding school, and I dashed off saying 'I'll GRILL him' because obviously I wanted to calmly question Rob about it..."

*she has rather than shears

I fully expect Peggy to be there throughout the birth, with any luck doughtily wielding an umbrella to keep Knob and Arse away. The baby will be called Peggy or Margaret in gratitude.

No the GP trip is specifically to assure us that the 90 yr old is up to it.

I want to be a bit smug please - I've looked back (again) and I said on 03/10 that 'I've looked back and the rape was 27/08. Assuming Rob had been tracking her cycle and she has a 28 day cycle with 27/08 being day 14 that would make he first day of her LMP 13/08 and so the baby would be due 19th May 2016.' Look I can count!

Do you reckon Rob will be waiting outside the delivery room?

Maybe knob will show his true colours at the hospital when the baby is born

I bloody hope the baby is a girl! Margaret after Peggy, shortened to Daisy I think.

Daisy Archer. Lovely.

Rob wouldn't be allowed there surely in case she was a threat to him - same as she can't see anyone else who's a prosecution witness...

Johhny is a replacement for John; he is effectively a fourth child. Did you notice how keen he was to stay at Brookfield for dinner instead of going home - Panettone have alienated yet another child. They are awful parents.

They're married though aren't they - Rob can register the birth and call the sprog Robert Junior I'm right always Titchener (even if it turns out all the scans were wrong and it's a girl). Or he'll think he can - but he'll need some bit of paper won't he? What happens?

And yes, shut the hell up Pat: too late to worry about not being 'there for her' now. My best hope is that there's a conscious irony in the script here, and that Pat is meant really to be angry with herself, and it's all getting displaced onto the cruel inhuman system that locks people up even for just doing one isolated stabbing....

The hospital give you a notification of birth thing that you have to take to the register office with you, so, unless Helen gives that to Rob, he won't be able to register the birth,

I am trying so hard to be sympathetic to Pat but she's driving me bananas. I realise her main function at the moment is to provide commentary on the horrors of the criminal justice system, and I'm not averse to TA highlighting that, but the script seems to assume the audience have the sophistication of a five year old, it's so clunky and heavy handed.

I'm getting sick of all the patawauling. Still, she's back on form.

patawauling.... Love it.

Frankly, I could have pushed Pat into the expensive sewage-eating pools they had put in at enormous expense some time ago which I suspect may be a white elephant now, given the massive contraction in their activities. I don't know what makes me more cross: the nonsense we're expected to swallow around the way Bridge Farm is managed, or the rank idiocy we're expected to swallow about the Helrob storyline.

What a load of shit.

The thing is, though, that it isn't really showing the horrors of the system. We all know that Pat thinks it's desperately unfair that any woman in labour should be held in custody, but I think we can all see the point that when you stab someone the authorities have to be a bit careful. And it's not as if Pat exactly bemoaned the unfairness of the system before it affected her precious child.