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The Archers - We Listen So You Don't Have To

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PseudoBadger · 10/04/2016 09:04

Happy(?!) Sunday everyone Brew Cake

What will this week have in store for us I wonder?

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glowfrog · 11/04/2016 20:35

Thanks, Emily. The more I think about it, the more I think this happened:

Rob goes for Henry
Helen steps forward and accidentally cuts Rob
Rob asks for the knife, steps forward menacingly
Then EITHER
Helen panics and stabs him (panic would account for 2nd stab wound)
OR
Rob tries to take the knife/subdue Helen (hence the marks on her wrists, though that could be from forcing the knife into her hands) and basically gets stabbed as they struggle

Helen would have reason to panic given what Rob has shown himself capable of.

Limelight · 11/04/2016 20:35

Right then Archers experts. Can someone fill me in on the Carol T backstory? I was in a period of not listening when she joined the cast. I get that she's a returnee from eons ago and that there was 'something nasty in the woodshed' involving Jennifer...

Timeandtune · 11/04/2016 20:43

Ooh Lex is Deborah Kerr's grandson. Old gimmer ( me,not DK) .

AugustaFinkNottle · 11/04/2016 20:54

SHWL is played by someone called Isobel Middleton. On googling, I think I vaguely recognise her. Currently to be seen in Marcella, apparently.

R4 · 11/04/2016 20:58

Why does it not surprise me that yet another TA actor comes from a luvvie family?

AugustaFinkNottle · 11/04/2016 20:59

Also John Shrapnel's son, Limelight. They're definitely back in casting-people-with-famous-relatives mode.

BertrandRussell · 11/04/2016 21:00

Practically all actors come from luvvie families. Or Oxford. Or Eton. Or any permutation thereof.

Wolpertinger · 11/04/2016 21:00

Thank-you Limelight and Gruach*

So Tony would actually be quite forward thinking on farming issues but views on women stuck somewhere in 1952. He seems to view them as some sort of other species and just witters about hormones which makes me shout. A lot. Am really hoping the barrister turns up and tells Tony to STFU about pregnancy hormones.

Jill on the other hand appears to be some kind of superstar. And I instantly liked Carol.

Have spent the day on the Archers Who's Who Grin

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/04/2016 21:01

She was Professor Sybil Trelawny in Harry Potter.

Singularly appropriate for Carol's daghter Grin

AugustaFinkNottle · 11/04/2016 21:01

I don't think we know that Helen hasn't told her solicitor what happened, do we? The fact that he was asking Pat about her perceptions may simply be because he's digging around for independent evidence.

BoreOfWhabylon · 11/04/2016 21:02

SHL actress, I'm talking about.

BertrandRussell · 11/04/2016 21:02

"Also John Shrapnel's son, Limelight. They're definitely back in casting-people-with-famous-relatives mode."

For a glorious moment I thought the actor was called Limelight Shrapnel.......

BertrandRussell · 11/04/2016 21:05

"He seems to view them as some sort of other species and just witters about hormones which makes me shout."

To be fair to Tony, I think that 's the first time he's mentioned Helen's hormones.....Everybody else has been banging on about them for months.

HalsallRedux · 11/04/2016 21:09

I'm just watching Marcella - I know who you mean Augusta. She's a policewoman I think.

Lex Shrapnel is the son of John Shrapnel, veteran of many a TV drama and voiceover. Dh's finest hour was when, in the opening seconds of a 'Midsomer Murders', he glanced casually at the screen, said 'John Shrapnel did it', and lo! so it came to pass about 5 hours later, or that's how it felt

BackToWorkIGo · 11/04/2016 21:09

Thanks limelight - as disappointed as I am that he's not young Scrooge, Lex Shrapnel is the finest name I have ever heard and I feel calmer to know he is even more Dickens than I could have guessed.

HalsallRedux · 11/04/2016 21:10

Multiple x-post. I'm too slow for this thread Grin

Wolpertinger · 11/04/2016 21:10

True. Very true.

It really pisses me off when women dismiss their own emotions by saying 'I'm hormonal' when if you dig deeper what is usually happening is they have a reasonable case to be upset about something.

R4 · 11/04/2016 21:18

Limelight I have no knowledge of Carol from first time around, it was before my time, but she was in Ambridge a long time ago - hence is immediate pals with Jill. Her husband, John, died relatively recently. Many moons ago he and JD bonded over historical research. There is gossip and rumour about how close that bonding was. John left JD quite a bit in his will.
Carol was estranged from John at his death but helped him through it. She came back to Ambridge after. For a long time JD was suspicious about the death and did some ridiculous amateur sleuthing. Eventually Carole said that she had helped things along but it was a mercy killing. JD said "Oh. That's OK then." I said "Confused"
Carol is often suspected by us of using her witchcraft herbal knowledge for nefarious reasons but the village seems oblivious to the danger.

R4 · 11/04/2016 21:27

So Tony would actually be quite forward thinking on farming issues but views on women stuck somewhere in 1952.

He has probably succumbed to Ambridge personality transplant syndrome. He was forward thinking as regards organic-ness; Bridge Farm were into it long before it was trendy. But they are being left behind by all the hipsters getting in on the act (eg Fairbretheren: free range is no longer good enough, it now has to be pastured).
However, Tony being 1950s in his views on women is weird. He is married (and has been for a long time) to Pat who was, once, the only Feminist in the village. I blame Helen for Tony's confusion - she comes out with this 'independent woman' schtick but acts in totally the opposite manner.

Limelight · 11/04/2016 21:27

R4 - v helpful thank you. I have now started to think of her as being one of the Witches of Eastwick which is quite pleasing.

Bertrand - I am now seriously considering becoming Limelightshrapnel...

Limelight · 11/04/2016 21:28

R4 - v helpful thank you. I have now started to think of her as being one of the Witches of Eastwick which is quite pleasing.

Bertrand - I am now seriously considering becoming Limelightshrapnel...

BeaufortBelle · 11/04/2016 21:32

JD? I don't know about Ambridge men not k owing about women's matters. David was attempting to straighten a twisted uterus in that episode. Not sure about Tony because I don't think they venture beyond pigs at bridge farm and I don't think sows get into the same difficulties as cows and sheep.

KingscoteStaff · 11/04/2016 21:32

Bore, I thought Emma Thompson was Sybil Trelawney? Although it could be anyone behind those glasses...

glowfrog · 11/04/2016 21:33

Bore Trelawney was played by Emma Thompson in the HP movie, no?

glowfrog · 11/04/2016 21:33

Oops, X post with Kings.