Things To Do in Ambridge When Rob's Dead. Can The Archers get Home Deliverance for Helen?

[PseudoBadger]

"Helen wasn't a sympathetic character and to some extent has been complicit in her own abuse."

Sorry? I hope I didn't really read that.........

Bertrand, I'm not saying that to point the finger at her, or blame her in any way.

I merely said it to point out how realistic this storyline is. It's such a complex issues and so much more than 'why didn't she just leave'

That is not to say it's her fault, it isn't at all, obviously. But that is why no one is helping her, and that is why so many women feel they can't ask for help.

Jess warned Helen years ago that she didn't know what she was getting herself into.

Shappey - you're absolutely right, the rate has been over 120 posts per day, which puts it amongst the fastest we've had.

Oh I do love to lurk. I think the title for the new thread should ignore the whole Hellin, Knob, Arseula and Henwee thing. I think it should be upbeat and spring like - maybe something about the village hall or the picnic on the green or shepherds huts. I'll slink back now into lurkdom.

Shalli I think the stats are horrendous & admire (if that's the right word) the woman last year who set up a website commemorating/acknowledging each one of those deaths, but there are so many more who struggle on under the radar without such a terrible twist.

There is so much more they can do with this as a storyline if they keep all the main characters alive. I doubt if Usha has the necessary professional competence to take a murder on either side to court.

I agree with having a light title skimming over the Helen storyline.

I wasn't trying to be funny Elendon. It would be a very definite resolution to this S/L, which I do not want to see going on for years and years.

Won't happen though.

But Hellins attitude and behaviour has pushed people away.

She threatened to stop Pat and Tony from seeing Henwee, if they did not support her relationship with Knob
She was vile to all her friends.

Knob told her what he is, with the whole when I first saw you in a yellow dress

But Hellin knows best, and will not listen to anyone who sees things differently to her.

'curtains in the village hall'

I actually think it will end in Knobs death.

I don't think that is a good or realistic end. Its also been done in Brookside, and EE.

But hey - I guess SOC is all about the ratings

I really don't want Rob to be killed off. That's partly because it would be very Eastenderish and incredibly tedious, especially if we have a stupid Whodunnit storyline. But mostly because I want him to undergo several months where all his sins come to light one by one and he is totally unable to control anything or anyone. Mostly, I suppose, in highly sadistic mode I want him to suffer.

Well yes, ideally I'd like him to suffer first.

But the way it's all ratcheting up looks like SOC has planned a big culmination to the story sooner rather than later.

Hellins character is a perfect one to get into this kind of abusive relationship unfortunately. Men like knob can spot women like Hellin a mile away. They sense vulnerability and exploit it to the full.

Hellin is complicit only in that she refuses to accept she was wrong, or listen to anyone else daring to question her choices. She put her blinkers on the moment she set eyes on knob and her stubbornness makes her refuse to take them off.

She's not likeable but you still care about her. No one deserves that.

And she definitely can't just tell him to leave. She has given some parental rights to knob (or did that not go ahead?) but knob will argue in the family courts that he has a good relationship with Henry as does the witch therefore he should maintain a relationship. Of course he will have parental rights over his own child so Hellin will never be rid.

Dare I whisper 'family annihilation'? . Knob is a prime example of an annihilator and it's happening more and more. I DONT think it will happen as its a bridge too far for the Archers but either way it won't just end unless something dire happens to him.

I said ages ago that if Hell couldn't see the mistakes she made getting into this mess that she would be doomed to commit all those mistakes again. She fell for Greg who was also a moody git & see where that led... I see Helen as merely weak (aren't we all). I feel sorry for her. Her weakness doesn't compare to Knob, he is downright vile. Full marks for how well he's written & acted, can even pity him while loathing him.

I don't want to see Hell as a victim who needs to be "rescued". I'd rather she realised she made a load of mistakes, kick the bastard out, & deal with her own problems.

I think Rob will have an affair and go off with someone else. But he will still make Helen's life hell.

Eldendon I wonder if his affair might be gay one? He has been so het up about in the past, it may be just what he desires.

Abusive man killed by his victim - soap cliche of the highest order

Homophobic man actually secretly gay - cliche. Most homophobes are just small minded and can't see beyond their own feelings/ideas of the world and can't understand that people are different (although I would say the older generation it is more conditioning as that's just what they were told growing up and those shackles can be hard to break - I should imagine ursula being vehemently homophobic but rob is young enough to know better!)

It's the abuse of Henry I find hard - but I should imagine he will have no longstanding effects or attachment issues from this as the ambridge health fairy will make him a ok as soon as rob is off the scene)

New thread title - Misery.

I think that would not happen elephant. Knob will meet someone else. A woman, who will be the surprise.

Is Miles married? I think Rob would see a fling with his SIL as the ultimate victory, especially if he could repeatedly come home to an ignorant Helen. He's done it once & can do it again.

curtains is an excellent title suggestion smelly

Curtains for Rob (we hope) but the resurgence show must go on.

I would love to see him being brought down publicly at the pageant, as Jess, Stefan and Charlie return to Ambridge and confront him, and Tom, Kirsty and Shula reveal what they know. Finally, Helen will turn up, with Henry and her newborn infant, and, with a cry of "Resurgam!" will call Harrison to drag the humiliated Rob away, and Ambrige returns to normal.

Even if there is a denouement the story can't be wrapped up in a couple of episodes.

I know that, and actually I would hate to see a big denouement when up until now the story has mostly been very realistic.