Things To Do in Ambridge When Rob's Dead. Can The Archers get Home Deliverance for Helen?

[PseudoBadger]

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

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[BYOSnowman]

If carol is the hero it will purely be because Eleanor bron has thrown her weight around!!

[IorekByrnisonsArmour]

I've said it before but controversially I love Carole and if she helps Hellin I will be so pleased

[Boomingmarvellous]

Ooh Carole's antenna are twitching

[Gasp0deTheW0nderD0g]

I'm rooting for women to come to the rescue. I don't mind if men come too, but I feel at least one woman should play a pivotal role in getting Helen to see what is happening to her and to seek redress.

[Boomingmarvellous]

Yes. Ursilla would be the one Hellin blames because to blame rob would mean looking at her own blinkered headlong run into marriage with an already married man, and accepting her own part of the responsibility for the mess she is in. She needs to admit to herself she made a mistake but being Hellin that's not in her character.

Not accepting she is to blame for being a victim but for making a dreadful choice and defending that to everyone around her to the point where she doesn't dare backtrack and point the finger at rob. Yet again buggered by her own stubbornness.

[PseudoBadger]

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[recyclingbag]

That's why I'm still rooting for Harrison to the rescue.

[BYOSnowman]

Educationally it would be best if it showed Helen confiding in a professional and that setting the ball in motion. It's tough trying to balance drama with education

[lljkk]

.... Knob can always get tortured to death after a few yrs in prison, maybe all our dreams will be fulfilled.

[lljkk]

Thanks BYOS, I think that's what I felt too but couldn't articulate.

[enochroot]

I agree, BOYOS. In amongst all the things he's done the abuse has to be the one he's 'caught' for. I would like to see the law and the health service play their part to the hilt along with Helen's own recognition of what has happened to her.
I also want his comeuppance for all the other things but primarily he should be branded as an abuser. Literal branding is too much to hope for!

[BYOSnowman]

I would hate it if those women too scared to called the help line listen to the sl and figure that the only way out is the death of one of the people or a highly dramatic denouement. It really needs to end in a way that shows women they can escape

[EBearhug]

I made Yorkshire puddings today, which are basically toad-in-the-hole sans sausages. I used vegetable oil. They were excellent. Admittedly they would probably have been excellent-er with lard, but I don't have any in the house and couldn't be bothered to go to the supermarket because I hadn't even bothered to get dressed yet.

One thing that has bothered me over the last week is that we had Pat going on about how she can cook a good joint of pork after all these years. She can do proper home cooking. Helen will have grown up with this. It seems unlikely Helen hasn't got the first idea at all of how to cook things like toad-in-the-hole, even if it's not something she tends to do herself, on account of her eating disorder which Rob has been busy reminding her about. They will surely have had to consume many (experimental) sausage-based meals over the years at Bridge Farm. Followed up by yoghurt or icecream or a cheese board.

[LyndaNotLinda]

I want him to suffer and THEN die. I just don't want him hanging around like a bad smell for years on end. Like HWMNBN

[LyndaNotLinda]

Do you use dripping Prof?

[cheminotte]

I read a book once (can't remember title or author, sorry) where the character's husband had been killed in an accident and everyone was really sorry for her but in reality she was really relieved but couldn't tell anyone. She was doubting herself as everyone said what a great guy he was, until her grandmother who had dementia said - what a nasty piece of work he was. It would be like that for H if Rob died.

[ppeatfruit]

Yes Butteredpparsnips Rob to kill Arse, Bloody hell that's clever ,get rid of both of them YEEEEEES !!!!

[GrumpyOldHorsewoman]

Just a theory, but in my mind Arsula's appearance has made things worse for Hel because, not only is she winding Hel up, but it's making Knob look more like the good guy - the reasonable one upon whom Hellin can lean.

I don't want him to die. I want him to be exposed and to suffer. Alot and for a very long time. A pariah.

[enochroot]

Exactly, Booming. It's hard to see how she could ever convince anyone that it's a hardship especially as she's not convinced herself yet. What I mean is that in her head at the moment it is Ursula who is taking over all aspects of her life and especially the birth so if Helen were to speak to someone and try to identify what is upsetting her most it would almost certainly be Ursula's presence in the house, not Rob.

[ProfGrammaticus]

It's weird about the toad in the hole though, mine takes well over half an hour in a hot oven (unless I'm making individual ones).

[Boomingmarvellous]

Pat..... And you are so flaky Hellin and hormonal and have an ED.

Hellin.....total meltdown at Pat, proving she is as unstable as everyone now believes her to be.

[Boomingmarvellous]

Enochroot.. Then she would definitely be locked up!

Pat, .........but Hellin, rob cares so much and does so much for you and Ursilla has given up weeks to care for you. I wish someone would let me put my aching feet up for weeks at a time

List....
Taken in by knob. Lynda, Shula (just), pat, tony, Peggy, Lillian, Justin, Jenny, brine, and many more.

Not taken in. Kirsty, Tom, Ian and husband (name blank!) Charlie

Fence sitting, Roy,

memory for names always appalling

Everyone is taken in by arsulla.

[enochroot]

I'd love to hear Rob's tangled web unravel and for him to be the one seeing a psychiatrist.

What I would detest is for Ursula to get the blame. At the moment she seems to be the one dictating how things go. I'm pretty sure she engineered the burnt toad in the hole, the ever so slight scald to Henwee, alientating H from his mother, the home birth, boarding school. He's following her lead rather than initiating these things and she's giving him ammunition to fling at Helen.

If Helen told any one the truth now as she sees it she might say that Ursula is oppressing her, making her do stupid things that make Rob worry about her, stealing Henry's affections. She would be right in a way.

[redshoeblueshoe]

Margie I'd like to hear Hellin say that