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Game of Farms: The 4 Houses of Ambridge. Bleak House, Boring House, Sitcom House and About to Breach the Terms of Their Tenancy House.

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PseudoBadger · 13/02/2016 13:42

Never mind the yoghurt - who is making the Sterling Gold?!

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recyclingbag · 17/02/2016 08:23

I think Helen will come to see her as an ally. Kirstie will come to visit, then Rob will throw Ursula out for flagrantly going against instruction or some other trumped up charge and throw her out.

This will leave Helen even more isolated than before and he will up his surveillance techniques.

Rob trying to isolate Helen from Henry is the most heartbreaking bit.

recyclingbag · 17/02/2016 08:25

I also think they are too invested in the storyline to let it fizzle out (through Rob reforming after a sharp word from his mother) or a body under the patio.

They have taken so much advice on this and it is getting so much coverage they will have to give it a 'responsible' ending.

Imbroglio · 17/02/2016 08:28

Can someone remind me how ursula behaved with jess when she had her baby?

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 08:33

And could someone remind me what Rob had previously (when she first appeared, I mean) told Helen about his mother and family, please?

I am increasingly irritated by KD's smug Tweets and complete lack of concern at glaring continuity gaffes. That bedrooms in Blossom Cottage one is outrageous.

Wishing all of you attending the Archers conference today a very enjoyable time.

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 08:38

Not sure how appropriate this would be for Rob? Trial Programme

recyclingbag · 17/02/2016 08:40

Wasn't Ursula firmly on Jess's side and quite involved until she found out it wasn't Rob's?

SuffolkNWhat · 17/02/2016 08:49

I get the impression that Ursula is a master manipulator in a way that Knob can only dream of and he's played right into her hands trying to use her in his game of control. Ursula doesn't care who/what she controls and will flit between Knob/Hell/Henwee to suit her needs.

She's clever whereas Knob is a fool.

GruntledOne · 17/02/2016 08:50

Ursula said that Knob is acting exactly the same way as his father did when she was pregnant with Miles and Knob.

But does she necessarily know precisely how Knob is acting? She sees him as perhaps the over-protective prospective father, but not necessarily in full-on abuser mode.

I'm just wondering whether she feels bad about believing Jess over Knob in relation to the paternity of Jess' baby, and maybe that has something to do with her attitude now?

enochroot · 17/02/2016 08:53

Was Helen's remark to Pat an indication that Rob's behaviour can be blamed entirely on Jess. I can see that she might think so but are we to believe that too?
In other words, is he somehow being exonerated and given an excuse for all this?

JessieMcJessie · 17/02/2016 08:57

I just don't get how Rob can go from the whole elaborate fake dinner party invitation to "please come and stay Mum?". Either U is controlling of him and he knows it so would want to distance himself, or she is benign and he'd not want her there diminishing his control. I do hope to God the SWs are not planning Mother and son in evil league against Helen. That would be a step too far.

Or is this perhaps a precursor to a custody battle- yes, your Honour, my Mother has a strong bond with Henry so of course I have a good support network...

GruntledOne · 17/02/2016 09:09

Oh dear, that could well be the explanation for the sudden change of tone, Jessie. How horrible.

Partron · 17/02/2016 09:11

I presume ursula won't tell Helen that Kirsty rang?

Toomuchtea · 17/02/2016 09:14

I can entirely see Rob flipping from one totally opposing viewpoint to another. A controlling relative of mine does this. You are the one who is in the wrong if you point it out, and are then subject to a tirade of abuse on how you do not understand how difficult things are for them/are utterly insensitive etc etc etc. Goes on for hours, and in the end you are tempted to agree simply to shut them up.

What is important to them is that they are always right, not that there is any logical consistency to their behaviour. Their rightness in their own mind is confirmed by ruthlessly trampling on any dissent. If there isn't any, and they make sure there isn't, then they are obviously right.

mummytime · 17/02/2016 10:12

We have fame! First quote from mumsnet #archersacademic

ppeatfruit · 17/02/2016 10:15

JD was taking logs round to Alice and Chris's a couple of days ago btw (to whoever said they weren't mentioned at all).

Also Ursula said that Hell is having her first GRANDSON not child. So we are assuming that Miles has a daughter.

BYOSnowman · 17/02/2016 10:23

Tell us more mummytime (I'm not on Twitter)

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 10:32

Twitter #academicarchers

redshoeblueshoe · 17/02/2016 10:42

For those of us who don't do twitter can we have more details.

DDD - surely Mrs DDD knows you listen to TA ?

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 10:53

Twitter moving fast but not furious. Have not seen anything about Mumsnet. My favourite tweet so far, from The Ambridge Observer: "networknicola says #AcademicArchers unlike most conferences: a) lots of women b) jolly"
They're on the cartography of Ambridge now and apparently the village's exact location is about to be revealed!

MargieBargie · 17/02/2016 10:59

It's very confusing with Ursula; I don't get it. I think we'll only understand if/when we hear a conversation between her and Rob. As I said before, I wonder if he brought her in as the lesser of two evils - i.e. to keep Pat away during half-term.

Again - I find it hard believe that they're in cahoots, scheming to isolate Helen; I think it would be going too far into the realms of pantomime baddies if they sit there planning not to let Kirstie visit. Rob could use his bullshit she-needs-the-rest argument about why Kirstie shouldn't come over but Ursula would probably say don't be silly; so he'd either have to make something up, or own up to what he's doing, which seems ludicriously far-fetched.

I think Ursula may be almost unwittingly cruel to Rob; she doesn't take him seriously, mocks him and laughs at him. For us and perhaps for Helen, she serves as the figure who pricks Rob's pomposity and reveals him to be weak and snivelling and rather pathetic. But I still think most importantly that once she's gone, Rob will erupt in fury at what he sees as Helen's collusion with the belittling of him and this may be the moment he hurts her physically in some way. (Which I'm dreading but think is probably coming).

And again - I don't think Ursula being mean to Rob is a get-out clause for him at all. It could explain things but in no way excuses them. Cycles of abuse are very common, it doesn't excuse any of it.

Grauch I'm glad no one's throwing a party for the de-lurkers - I'd go bright red and all stammery.

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 11:02

Prof Carenza Lewis: "Never been to such a raucous conference!!"
(They seem to all be waving maps of Borchester around with gay abandon. And Sam, the speaker who brought scrumpy along to illustrate her talk, hasn't even started yet!)

BYOSnowman · 17/02/2016 11:02

Yes but if it is said that rob is the way he is because of his mother - isn't that just blaming women yet again? It would be nice if ursula could be a good mil rather than the stereotype tbh

Dumdedumdedum · 17/02/2016 11:08

Excellent Tweet from the Beeb: "Where were the culverts and is Stefan's body still in one? Unanswered questions at #AcademicArchers #thearchers"

MargieBargie · 17/02/2016 11:10

Well, she said Rob's father was the same when she was pregnant - overbearing, fussing - so perhaps he was the abusive one, and she has minimised the abuse into overprotectiveness in her own mind. Which could mean she's an ally for Helen?

I haven't been listening to the Archers for that long, but it seems like there are at least a few twatty men on it - Rob (obviously), Toby, Alex - so I wouldn't have an issue with a woman being the bad guy, so to speak, if that were the case.

AskingForAPal · 17/02/2016 11:20

I love the idea of a conference that's jolly and full of women. (That's why I used to go to"Feminism in London" in fact)

Mind blown though by the idea that Ambridge is based on a real placed. Just googled Rippingale - it's got a pub called The Bull that's right opposite the church