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The Archers Thread September 2015 - The One Where Helen Kicks Rob In The Balls?

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PseudoBadger · 01/09/2015 22:21

Wishful thinking. I think she's in it for the long haul

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BitOutOfPractice · 07/09/2015 13:13

I'm like the Scarlet Pimpernel Ppeatfruit

ppeatfruit · 07/09/2015 13:17

Did you notice a new character was mentioned? I wonder if she'll be a 'talker'?

BitOutOfPractice · 07/09/2015 13:18

It didn't sound like she would be did it? I can't remember her name but I like her already - sounds like she could give Hilary Noakes a run for her money!

BitOutOfPractice · 07/09/2015 13:19

Do you think we should hve a round up of silent characters?

ppeatfruit · 07/09/2015 13:23

Yes I remember it was a very POSH name and she sounds posh too. You do it, I'm out buying bathroom fittings and flooring AAAAAH in a moment It's great being retired!

BitOutOfPractice · 07/09/2015 13:26

Oh are you retired? How wonderful. I bet you wonder how you ever had time to go to work now eh?

JessieMcJessie · 07/09/2015 13:31

Did I hear Jill say "we could have asked Bert" in relation to lugging the desk?! Isn't Bert in his late seventies? Perhaps she wanted to kill him off to free up a room. Though it is utterly inconceivable that Bert would not have insisted on moving out of Brookfield to free up space for Jill.
I also noticed Ruth described it as "that little desk" which was quite funny.

The bit with David on the phone to Ruth about the house clearance was really well done and so sad- his immediate unthinking "no" when asked if he wanted anything of R's Mum and Dad's for Brookfield, and cutting her off when she wanted to talk about the dress. Contrast Pip's lovely anecdote about the picture over the mantelpiece. David really is an insensitive oaf concerning anything outside his own kids and mother. Poor Ruth.

Though don't understand the urgency to get the Prudhoe house sold if Heatherpet will be living rent free at Brookfield and surely has some savings for immediate care costs? Why not just mothball it for a bit?

ppeatfruit · 07/09/2015 13:32

Yup that's true esp. with an ancient house and keeping on top of learning french and the travelling to and from blighty

LillianGish · 07/09/2015 13:40

Agree Jessie. Surely you'd move HP in then take your time with the house - even rent it out while deciding what to do. Certainly no mad rush to sell requiring Ruth to be up there for weeks and weeks on end.

BertrandRussell · 07/09/2015 13:49

"cutting her off when she wanted to talk about the dress. Contrast Pip's lovely anecdote about the picture over the mantelpiece. David really is an insensitive oaf concerning anything outside his own kids and mother. Poor Ruth."

Well to be fair, they did have a cow with a dead calf inside her and the vet had just arrived...............I really don't get the David hate!

JessieMcJessie · 07/09/2015 15:15

Quite, Bertrand the vet had just arrived and Pip was there to show him the cow so he was able to take over. It would not have made any difference to the cow if David had spent 30 more seconds showing a bit of empathy to his wife. He really was cruelly dismissive in my view - crystal clear that his is the only mother who he cares about, anything about caring fo Heather is just lip service.

redshoeblueshoe · 07/09/2015 15:20

Jessie I agree, he's barely civil to her

choccyp1g · 07/09/2015 16:11

I thought David was horrid about the house contents. At the very least he should have been encouraging Ruth to think about what she wants to keep. And mementos of the house for Heather and the grandchildren. Not mementos of Heather as She Isn't Dead Yet, though you'd think she was, the way Ruth is clearing out her possessions.

Lancelottie · 07/09/2015 16:15

Anyone else read that and start humming 'I am not yet dead, I can dance and I can sing' (as in Spamalot)?

SeekEveryEveryKnownHidingPlace · 07/09/2015 16:23

I had always quite liked David, and felt that his characterization as 80% a pretty easy-going pleasant guy who was nonetheless capable of Lawrentian rages (cf the tree house of lurve, and Peep's affair with the obnoxious Jude during her AS levels) was well done.

But I think the way he behaved, aided and abetted by Jill, about the move, was poor. Yes, we can say that really a farmer wouldn't have wanted to move in the first place so it was an unconvincing story line anyway, but still - he said they would, and then unilaterally decided they weren't, and didn't really acknowledge how badly he was treating Ruth about it all. Ok, fair enough 'I'm an Archer and I belong at Brookfield', if that's how you feel - but Ruth is not an Archer, and her place in all of that was very unfair.

I also think he's been a dick about the whole Heather thing - always telling her to wait and not drive yet, and how hard it is for him on the farm (which I'm sure it is, but it's also hard if your mother is rapidly failing at the other end of the country, as opposed to making you a cottage pie 5 yards away!). His argument about her not coming to live at Brookfield was:
maybe she won't want to
maybe she won't want you doing the personal care
well, ok, MAYBE SHE'LL DIE ON THE WAY AND THEN HOW WILL YOU FEEL?

Which I felt was poor.

MeolsCop · 07/09/2015 18:17

Have been lurking. Completely agree about David's crassness. I think he's behaved appallingly over the whole HP thing, but something tells me she's not long for this world, if indeed she does make it to Brokefailed at all.

She will SOTMC, allowing Jill (OH!!!!!!) to return to the bosom of her family
and continue her relentless emotional manipulation

SladeGreen · 07/09/2015 18:33

I'm just waiting for the day when Jill tears a strip off David for being so selfish and inconsiderate towards Ruth and HP. I know she sees him as "The Golden Child," but in all honesty I think she will start to see his true colours, and proceed to take him down a peg or two.

I hope so anyway.

R4 · 07/09/2015 18:47

They are not painting David in a very good light at the moment but I do think that it is out of character.
Mind you, I think I'd be peeved at a Ruth/HP situation that goes from "I'm not moving so you have to" to "needs 24/7 attention, even when in hospital" in the blink of an eye.
Ruth is over-reacting and being ineffective. Just sort it out woman!

Shallishanti · 07/09/2015 19:06

helen is avoiding rob...

Stickerrocks · 07/09/2015 20:32

RobertTichener Give the flipping child his new toy now. He's hardly going to ruin your dauphinoise with it.

mummytime · 07/09/2015 21:16

The bed wetting is significant... mark my words.

Gruach · 07/09/2015 21:59

My god, if I had to listen to Rob reciting another long restaurant menu when I just wanted something to eat - I'd be finding a new use for my heaviest pan.

NotdeadyetBOING · 07/09/2015 22:42

Agree about the bed wetting. I was wondering how long it would be before Henry started showing signs of distress/confusion about the mixed messages he gets from Rob. What a massive arse he is…..

Shallishanti · 07/09/2015 22:45

why was she so keen to get his input on the stock list though???

Gruach · 07/09/2015 22:52

Still trying to puzzle that out Shalli

Probably just a change of SW

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