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I've lived a similar situation and can't bear listening because it brings back terrible memories (I was trying to look after a diabetic demented parent, who lived on their own and went in and out of hospital with frightening frequency and who was being cared for by a completely disjointed health service, from 4,000 miles away). I agree with BYOS, it is not being handled properly, it's completely unrealistic and the scenario BYOS suggests is far more likely to happen in "real life".

Is it just me or is Jill's voice getting really bizarre? And certainly zero BOOP points for the hugely tedious I don't care what she costs Mrs Tregorran's return from Bristol (as if we cared….).

So - which of the Knob standout moments are going to turn out to be the tipping point for big reveal?

(1) Shagging Jess on the QT when with Hellin
(2) Hunt saboteur business
(3) Tawdry behaviour during flood including deliberate culvert clogging
(4) Accidentally mislaying Stefan
(5) Fiddling the books
(6) Being vile to Henry when H's back is turned

Have I missed anything?

(7) Encouraging Tom to leave Kirsty at the altar and bugger off to Canada without letting anyone else know, or letting on he knew all about it?
(8) Waving a red flag at the bull which gored Tony?
(9) Taking Piggoi to the solicitor and amending her will so she leaves everything to him?
(10) Falsifying the paternity test which actually proved he is Ethan (is that the right name? Jess's offsprung, anyway)'s father?

Squeaver, I don't think it's a matter of missing money, it's more a matter of Rob having done something to massage the fertility data, probably to cover up some horrendous cock-up on his part caused by the amount of time he takes off to travel home for cooked lunches.

I too can't believe how Knob is talking to Charlie. So aggressive. I'd fire gis arse if I were Charlie, just for that!

I agree that the situation with Heatherpet is potentially a very true to life storyline, but not in the way it's been handled.

We've had, for instance, an assumption that the only way to deal with the problem is for Roooth to be away for weeks on end even when HP has been in hospital or a home with no realistic need for care from Roooth: as someone has pointed out, the reality for most people is that they are in employment and cannot just drop everything and run and would have to put together a patchwork of care and visit at weekends. We've also had all the stuff about how HP must stay where she is because of her network of local friends, all of whom seem to have vanished into thin air leaving Roooth as the only person available to rally round; and the fact that Roooth is making decisions for HP despite the fact that she seems to have full mental capacity and therefore is the only person who can make those decisions. Add to that stupidities like the fact that Roooth seems to be incapable of doing any laundry in Prudhoe and her constant hysteria over everything, and the storyline just becomes irritating.

And that's before we even get started on the absolute necessity for the entire family to sell up and move to Prudhoe which has now been conveniently banished into the past as if it never happened ...

Knob has "talked back" to Charlie almost since Day One, hasn't he? As if he were the superior? (I have missed quite a lot because of my outrage at unbelievable plot developments which do my BP no good.)

Thanks Rnr you have explained it far more clearly than I did! I'm still not sure that the effect would have shown in the bottom line yet, I thought the discrepancies were quite recent but maybe it's been going on a long time.

And thanks gruach re the Lilian thing. I listen at bedtime and sometimes drop off before the end.

The dairy discrepancies are possibly a result of Rob's sheer arrogance that he could get away with being a lazy manager. The blocking of the culvert comes into the same category.

He probably would get away with it but Charlie is smarting from not proving the culvert blocker was Rob so he's going through everything with a fine toothed comb, possibly to rattle Rob's nerves. I hope he really does uncover mismanagement though.

I must have mentioned before that I like Charlie........

Didn't Rob also put someone on the wrong train at Tom's stag night & they ended up miles away?

Yes, Eastpoint. I think it was Tom and with Roy's reluctant help. I remember that episode as adding to my intense dislike of Rob. But I would be happy to be proved wrong.

It was Kenton on the train, IIRC. Can't remember why now.

Rob was absolutely obnoxious at Tom's stag do, but I can't remember much of the detail, except that he said loudly at the start that the first rule of the stag do was that what happened in Brum stayed in Brum. There was some sexual overtone to that, wasn't there? Did he want them to go to a poledancing club or similar?

Surely Rob won't get away with blocking the culvert? I know several of the things he's done are immoral and/or illegal but that has to be the worst as far as the law/damage to property/harm to life doesn't it?

The village was flooded far more badly due to that culvert being blocked, much more damage was done to more properties. Freda died as a result of events that night and Charlie would have died but for Adam.

A bloke who did something similar during the Somerset floods got a custodial sentence, the scriptwriters can't just let this go away.

Is Charlie really bi? Could he be the one to rescue Helen from Knob's clutches eventually? I do hope so (hopeless romantic emoticom).

It would be nice if Helen could escape rob without needing another man to help her though

I agree on the Rooth and HP sl. Our parents were in their own home with a care package for two years before they could no longer manage. With us going up and down at weekends. We are both self employed. I hate the Helrob sl it's like slow torture, I can't bear the way no one sees or speaks about what an arse he is. BTW enoch I also like Charlie.
Cmon Charlie.

The Daddy thing with Henry isn't new - look at all that fuss there was over the father's day card.

I don't think Charlie's doing it just because of the culvert. It's also because Julian whatsisname is holding him ultimately responsible for how well Berrow Farm does - and I think unlike Rob, he's a good manager, and realises that something isn't right, and he at least wants to understand why things haven't been happening quite as expected, even if it's down to nature (unlikely at the mega dairy) or human error, rather than active neglect or deliberate sabotage. But I think this partly because I too am greatly in favour of Charlie these days.

And if Charlie's going for any woman, it's going to be for Debbie, who can give as good as she gets.

Lynda's sniff tonight was well placed I thought. Yes, Rob insisted that they went to a strip club - Iain was not impressed and Adam was a bit non-plussed (that was Tom's stag do by the way). Why has Helen not asked Knob how his parents have taken the news - an obvious question surely?

Helen presumably knows (whether consciously or sub-) that it's best to avoid any mention of his family. I wonder if he's even told them yet.

Surely it must be time for another phone call from Ursula to put Hellin in the picture. I still think she'll be pregnant though before the scales really fall from her eyes.

I'm still not on Team Charlie. He used to stalk Adam and jump out of hedges at unexpected moments. He has now turned his Eye of Sauron on Rob and is rifling in his bottom drawers.
Is that his only form of management: harassment?

The milk yields were down a few months ago but are now back up again (according to lunch convo). But yy Rob is a lazy arse. No doubt was out at lunch when the AI was supposed to be done or something.

I would like Charlie to start flirting with Rob.

Had forgotten about whole stag do thing. He was actually much more openly nasty back then.

I might be over thinking this but we are being told that the fertility at Berrow was down at round about the same time as Rob having to do the paternity test which was negative.
Now the fertility at Berrow is being investigated while Helen is 'glowing' and Rob wants a baby.

enoch Are you saying that Helen is going one step beyond the Magickal Baby and is now gestating a minotaur!?