The Archers - It's Full Of Pants! Listeners are allegedly leaving in droves. Will Peggy also FOHMC?

[PseudoBadger]

She's got a whole calendar to use!

Oh dear.

Hope you managed to catch Farming Today. (I obviously didn't.)

Pip already has her long term boyfriend from the silent big arable farm down the road-Spencer. He was def still around when she went off on placement, funny he didn't appear to figure anywhere in her reportedly enthusiastic acceptance of Project Prudhoe.

Don't remind them Jessie! Both the acting and the idea of Spencer were quite staggeringly dull. I'm praying that, in the way of students everywhere, Pip will have found a world of excitement away from home.

Certainly going to take a while for the new actor to become embedded. Ruth and David sounded as if they were curtsying every time they spoke to her last night.

(I def wrote curtseying. Computer phone says no.)

I'm sure spencer will be mentioned in a couple of weeks and completely dismissed

So Charlie is just an all round flirt I guess.

Or, if we are going down the eastenders route, Charlie dates pip because he wants to be accepted and Adam is the only person he feels confident enough to hint about his sexuality to. Then rob finds out he's really gay and assaults him (because he is much more of a raving homophone then previously thought) but Charlie doesn't say anything through shame and the whole thing comes out at the same time the hellrob story concludes and rob gets carted off to prison.

Another new listener here started listening in July, it's only this past few weeks I haven't had to use wiki/Lowfield to work out who's who... still have to consult sometimes to remind myself of family trees... I wish I'd started listening sooner, I gather this is no longer the Golden Age, more the Slurry Age, just my luck!

Love it though, and this thread. Has anyone else noticed the similarity between the Carol story and My Cousin Rachel? in which elegant new widow with exotic habits and a passion for doling out her own-recipe tisanes returns from Abroad and starts seducing all the yokel-locals with her charming manners and Fancy Foreign Ways. This fascinating woman didn't poison her husband with her herbal concoctions... or did she ?? (It didn't End Well.)

What with that and the Mrs Danvers mention the other day I feel sure the SWs have a Du Maurier fan in their ranks - !

Apples you are so right - My Cousin Rachel is one of my absolutely favourite books, but I hadn't thought of that until you pointed it out.

Lilian.

Welcome Apples
Good spot re My cousin Rachel. Can someone direct Carol towards the bridge over the Am, I'm sure all the extra traffic from the megadairy must have weakened the supports.

Are we really supposed to believe that the Dopeys are off to Prudhoe when SO'C has gone to the bother of recruiting NewJosh and now NewPip (btw, what was her accent supposed to be? - it was all over the place!).

So I need to attach up on the thread and do some actual work today
BUT BUT BUT
WHY would Justin Elliot pay a premium to buy Brookfield which is clearly going to be in the middle of his new road scheme?

CONFUSED>

unitarian has the dastardly idea that Justin will buy Brookfield and then get the road scheme called off, presumably increasing the value of the land, or at any rate making it possible to pull down every hedgerow in Ambridge and turn the whole place into a mega-farm with enormous fields and the biggest combines/tractors/whatever trundling up and down controlled by drones.

BYOS @ raving homophone........ Spot on!!!!!!!

Olivia. If Linda is right then Justin had a hand in getting route B adopted. No doubt he can just as easily call it off.

If people are keen to buy at 5 mill with the road scheme pending then the value goes up if the road scheme goes elsewhere, probably to the sum he is offering.
Meanwhile he's almost certainly heard the Brian is after Brookfield - I think Adam let something slip the other day, enough for Charlie to have probably worked it out. Justin seems intent on ruining Brian and it seems Brian would be in trouble now he's lost the BL contract as he's keen to buy Brookfield to utilise his equipment investment. At the very least it will box Brian in.
Justin will be hoping to make Brookfield, Home Farm, Berrow Farm and the rest of BL's holdings into one huge estate and get Brian off the BL board.

As Petula says, it would be an interesting reversal of fortunes if Brian is left struggling.

Oops! Yes that too works I guess!!!

Welcome Apples! I've never read any Daphne Du Maurier but your post inspires me to go and get My Cousin Rachel out of the library.

Did anyone else think that the Pip/Charlie convo was very like the original Cheesey/Knob interactions? Flirting around different farming philosophies. I do agree that the Dopey Duo sounded as though they were curtseying to Pip every time they spoke to her!

Yes it was Blue. Though new Pip reminds me strongly of some fictional heroine but I can't think who.

Speaking of which - Apples I'm prepared to blame all the trauma of my younger life on My Cousin Rachel. It left me with such a feeling of dread and uncertainty that I'm not sure I've ever recovered. But you may well be right about the SWs filtching ideas from it.

Thank you for the welcomes and Bluestocking, do try My Cousin Rachel, it is one of my favourite books (like LillianGosh) and very gripping.

If someone discovers a note left by John Tregorran she has done for me, Carol my torment! then our suspicions will be confirmed

Kicking myself I didn't spot the my cousin Rachel parallel. One of my favourites too

Another du Maurier fan here - yes big parallells with this storyline - well spotted Apples.

Missed the reference to Mrs Danvers - what was that?

Olivia: WHY would Justin Elliot pay a premium to buy Brookfield which is clearly going to be in the middle of his new road scheme? - could it be that if it has a road built though it, it would then become brownfield instead of greenfield, and would thus have massive more potential for industrial or residential development?

What I want to know is - the 5m that D&R reckon it's worth (never-mind the 7.5m at the moment) ... is that taking into account the fact that it's earmarked for a road development? Or is it simply based on the fact that it's prime farmland? Would the buyer receive the compulsory-purchase compensation? (if that's what it's called?) This storyline is farfetched, implausible and pants really.

I'm worried at the prospect of new Pip having an affair with Charlie especially since she's currently living with Rob (and having quite a hard time there).

I was wondering about the compensation too, Waltzing.

D&R would get it if they stay and the road is built because they don't have a choice in the matter.
But a person who buys it knowing the road is planned surely shouldn't get compensation because they've bought the land at a price that is lower due to the plan. Or so I think but I don't know what the law says about it.

As to the market value in the circs, Graham Ryder estimated 4.5 if they're lucky and said the road plan had driven the value down so he sounded very negative. It rose to 5 when there was more interest in it than he expected.

In fact the more I think about it (and I was while I was cleaning the bathroom) the more convinced I am that David & Ruth will opt to stay, take the compensation and pay off the siblings.
With the land worth so much they would have no difficulty getting a loan against it to build a plant to bottle the water from the new spring and have Eddie manage it. They could also become predatory and buy some land to replace what is on the other side of the road or develop that land themselves by building a few new homes.
They could make a packet.

@WaltzingWithBares

Olivia: WHY would Justin Elliot pay a premium to buy Brookfield which is clearly going to be in the middle of his new road scheme? - could it be that if it has a road built though it, it would then become brownfield instead of greenfield, and would thus have massive more potential for industrial or residential development?

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It would be compulsory purchase not compensation surely?

The land will be valued on the basis of what people expect to happen an given the road has had the first go ahead the assumption would be there will be compulsory purchase and the price will reflect that

Olivia the plot thickens ....