Loxfest is over. Locket-gate is upon us. Discuss Mowgli, Rob's new secret and of course the new road here with other Archers fans.

[PseudoBadger]

New thread for hopefully an exciting Sunday episode. Poor Hayley.

Shallishanti, we wouldn't necessarily have heard either way re the locket. That seems to be the new scriptwriting style - leave us on a cliffhanger, then remain totally silent about what it actually was in the next episode and leave us to speculate. Witness the whole business with Jess.

I agree princess it would have been the first thing I'd have been asking when DP walked in the door.

Ooh wips that would be brilliant. Or if Roy arrives (late) to the restaurant and finds Hayley has left the locket on his plate.

I'm hoping she hasn't asked him about it because she's biding her time to get her finances etc in order, and then kick him straight out with no warning.

I'm amazed we've not heard Lynda wax lyrical on how amazing Leoni's breastfeeding is (or that formula can be just as good)
Off to see if I can find that bit of Dead Ringers as the PIL can talk through 6:30 to 7:14 when there's something good on the radio but will be stony silent otherwise

www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p025lps3 Dead Ringers here!

Love the suggestions that Hayley could wear the locket as part of her 'dressing up' outfit, or leave it on Roy's plate if he's a no show!

Just heard dead ringers

Is it a pisstake of the clunky writing?

Maybe, but more a pisstake of Helen's wilful blindness, I think, snowman.

Inspired Dead Ringers!

New thread!

Am not happy about still being in the dark about what Jess was calling about.

I agree about the control...

I don't quite agree that Rob is social climbing or trying to move Helen into a different social circle. He's apparently quite at ease in "society" (quite at home exchanging anecdotes with Adam about their respective boarding schools for instance.) But he is clearly interested in embedding himself in Ambridge. As regards Helen she's lived amongst the huntin,' shootin,' fishin' set all her life; (she doesn't need an invitation to drop in on Caroline and Oliver, her uncle runs the shoot....) But she's made a conscious decision to broaden her horizons beyond all that. And the infuriating thing is that Rob's urge to control is such that, had she initiated a conversation about wanting to hunt again, he would probably have produced a thousand reasons why she should do no such thing.

Yeah I agree. What I meant by different social circles is more the fact that he wants to take greater control over who she is friendly with. Not so much as a social climbing exercise but more to ensure she only mixes with people who aren't any sort of threat to his authority and fit in with his associates. Kirsty, for example, was far too feisty and opinionated for his liking.

True...

That was a bit of a nothing episode

Indeed. They need to stop this habit of dropping little cliff hangers and then completely ignoring them for a few episodes!

They seem to have boring episodes where they are setting things up, then a dramatic episode towards the end of the week and then they start again

I like boring/nothing episodes.

Jill was a bit creepy though. The moment Ruth was off the scene she sort of took on the 'devoted wife' role to her own son. She also seems to be giving Peggoi a run for her money, in that she is suddenly thinking in her old age that she is a wise old business brain.

I quite like them too R4, don't want too much drama, I listen to TA to relax! Not keen on the 'let's keep them waiting' tactics though, it's gonna have to be good to make the wait worth it!

I'm back from an absence, marking my place and frantically up-catching...

I don't like the mix of set up, set up, set up, tiny drama, set up, big drama, back to set up having made no mention of big drama

In the good old days it was much more even and there weren't massive cliff hanger that weren't mentioned the next episode.

To me this is tv writing where you can use silent cues - so maybe Hayley looking at the locket when Roy leaves so you know it's very much on her mind. With radio you are reliant on what they say and their tone and I don't think it always works.

I thought the dead ringers was funny because I do think they have made rob a bit ott with Helen and they have made Helen a bit head in the clouds. I like the storyline but think the writing is clunky

I'm a long time lurker on these threads as I tend to dip in and out of Ambridge but Knob & Helen plus Roy & Elizabuff have drawn me in.

I have a question that some of you very well established listeners might be able to answer: this Jenny inheriting money thing - did she have an affair all those years ago? Was it when she was already married to Brian or before?

Nice to hear from you Squeaver I can't answer that question and I've listened for a long time but not properly listening IFSWIM. TA is the same age as me actually I'll ask my DM.

But they must have special schools in Borsetshire?

But how near to Ambridge are would they be? She'd probably have to be bussed to Borchester or Felpersham.

I read Vicky's intention as wanting to move somewhere close to a school for Beth, so that she (V) could be easily involved in the school community. She was a city girl in the first place, wasn't she?

squeaver I couldn't remember either

But I found \link{http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/archers/brian_jenny.shtml\this} which spells it all out very neatly (& from the appearance was written long ago so has not been tweaked to fit in with current storylines )

Here's the official line on Jenny and John Tregorran www.bbc.co.uk/radio4/archers/brian_jenny.shtml