David or Nigel

[Jdore]

Who is going to fall off the roof!

he said in the interview on Today that VW (spit) rang him on Bonfire Night () & said Nigel was going to die; he said (as you would) "why me?" & she said because Nigel was so well-loved (ie it would have the biggest impact).

cow

I sobbed into tomorrow's packed lunches.
Poor, poor Elizabeth.

Well, I think she's right - it will have a huge impact - I, for one, won't be listening any more (hadn't really followed it for ages, but still).

IT's really crap she rang him actually - who gets sacked over the phone?

My husband isn't listening any more, after 30 years, and says he won't until VW is given the heave-ho.

Elizabeth was wonderful last night.

I still feel sorry for poor old Nigel.

Alison Pearson in today's Telegraph:

'I am not suggesting that Vanessa Whitburn should be pushed off a roof herself, or into one of the Grundys? slurry pits, but a move to Albert Square, where she can have as many drive-by shootings as she likes, would do her ? and us - the world of good.'

www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/columnists/allison-pearson/8241710/Ambridge-and-its-putsch-of-the-posh.html

Can we start a Mumsnet campaign.

I have read so much about people stopping listening but how many like me are there to offset them?

I stopped listening about 5 or 6 years ago but this has made me listen again.

Oh I hadn't realised how much I missed them all, I have sobbed so much over the last few days.

and I have drawn a very complicated family tree and keep pointing to people as they speak for dh to understand

But they still shouldn't have killed him, they could ahve got just as many good story lines if he was disabled.

Agree with many others that they missed a very good opportunity to allow Nigel to live but with a serious disability. It would have had all the same repercussions/ramifications etc but with a much deeper addiotnal dimension and would have retained an important character. Fact is The Archers deserves a lot better than VW and Mary whatserface who wrote this rubbish.

stop listening now?

but its getting interesting..so many questions to answer? what's going ot happen?

I think I will have to listen on.

But I agree about the Nigel disability possibility (rather than death). What a strong story line that would have been.

Big storylines come along once in a blue moon on the Archers and I think that's a good thing. EE, Corrie and the like seem to need multiple fatalities, murders and rapes on a bi-weekly basis to keep their audience. Whitburn was told to pep things up for the 60th anniversary and that's what she did. Only mistake was overdoing the trails in the run-up. Nigel as a paraplegic would have been as dull a one-way street as poor old Jack Woolley's Alzheimer's is becoming. Don't think it heralds a descent into TV soap standards...

I think there's a confusion between 'big' storylines with 'sensational' storylines. A big storyline may be something that doesn't involve rape, murder or death but has profound implications for the protagonist's story arc and for the community as a whole.

abr1de, you mean the yoghurt mislabelling don't you

A story arc like that has profound implications, mark my words. We aren't finished with that one yet.

I hope there is an interesting twist to all this, I really do. Otherwise, Nigels death is just sensationalist shite and I shall be mightily pissed off.

I really thought VW and The Archers story-lines were more clever & challenging than just killing someone off for a bit of publicity.

Yes, we should start an MN campaign

the interesting twist is clearly going to be Elizabeth vs David (remember E still doesn't know that David encouraged Nigel to go up when he wasn't going to)

family & friends taking sides
financial worries
disturbed children
D having nervous breakdown probably (already racked with guilt)

I said earlier (though maybe not on this thread) that I have to concede, reluctantly, that VW knew exactly what she was doing...

I'll join any campaign. I have decided to boycott the Archers for a month in protest at the crap 60th episode and rotten treatment of Nigel.

If I'm really honest there were times when I thought the Nigel character was a bit ridiculous and more like a character out of 'Jeeves' than a modern soap but, like Linda Snell, he served an important dual purpose of being light relief and when it was neccessary he could be switched to a serious storyline which would carry more impact because it was out of the ordinary.

That's why I think it would have been perfect for him to have survived with a serious disability - I'm sure he would have made it really touching and believable.

also wondering if there is any possibility of alan and elizabeth becoming closer . i know alan's married to usha but alan can truly understand what elizabeth's going through and he wouldn't be the first vicar to have an extramarital affair .
shula would have apoplexy. the village shaken etc etc

Nice idea in the letters page of the Times today - bring Nigel back - as the ghost of Lower Loxley!

Oh yes, great idea!

Still remember the John tractor thing - and even know have a pang for Pat & Tony - am I sad or wot???

oh me too MrsG - wept all over the potato peelings.

Tony was so sweet.

Now somebody needs to talk Lizzie round about the children going to the funeral. I suspect Jill is going to pull a rabbit out of the hat to do with a bereavement in her own childhood