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Buyers / sellers exchange waiting room continued...

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NoWordForFluffy · 30/10/2023 07:23

New thread for those of us still waiting the dreadful wait. 😩

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onthefence23 · 06/11/2023 08:27

Anyone else slightly look forward to Monday as you might updates/news! Hate the weekend silence

NoWordForFluffy · 06/11/2023 08:43

Kind of! Though it never seems to be good news. 🤣

The entry on the Land Reg. for our house now has different wording to what it used to have (we're 60; 56 is the old wording). I hope this means there's registration movement. 🤞 Might call them!

Buyers / sellers exchange waiting room continued...
Buyers / sellers exchange waiting room continued...
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EmilyMay89 · 06/11/2023 09:33

onthefence23 · 06/11/2023 08:27

Anyone else slightly look forward to Monday as you might updates/news! Hate the weekend silence

Yes! Constantly checking my emails 😂

NoWordForFluffy · 06/11/2023 10:10

Eek, I have access to the Land Reg website through work and our house now says 'expedition approved' when you check the application enquiry page! Just called my solicitor to tell her.

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MovingToPlan · 06/11/2023 10:16

Ooh, exciting to see progression, @NoWordForFluffy !

I'm waiting to hear about our possible offer. Aaaarrrggghhh

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 10:37

As we're just kicking stuff off I've gone full steam ahead this morning- made a massive master database of all the relevant contacts, docs and costs 🤓

Have also made contact with solicitors for both sale and purchase so they know who I am and to prepare them for me harassing them for the next however long.

I've never sold and purchased before- do I need to do anything right now beyond instruct solicitors and searches? Is it too soon to line up my survey, should I wait for my buyers to do theirs? I don't want to hold anything up!

Jayknow · 06/11/2023 10:55

Does anyone know if there is anyway to speed up local authority searches?

I am too impatient.

@sweetpickle23 -- I instructed the Survey once my offer was accepted. This was to make the process as quick as possible. However, I think most people wait for the local authority searches to come back though.

EmilyMay89 · 06/11/2023 10:59

@sweetpickle23 I booked in survey fairly quickly, ahead of getting searches back. Just wanted to keep everything moving!

NoWordForFluffy · 06/11/2023 11:01

@sweetpickle23, are you using two different solicitors for sale and purchase?

I now can't focus on work as I need an update on the bloody plan from my solicitor.

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sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:02

@NoWordForFluffy Same solicitor firm, different actual solicitors obviously.

Thanks all for survey info- I will get it booked!

Jayknow · 06/11/2023 11:07

Sorry for all the questions.

How long did it take from instructing searches to getting the results?

Then once the searches come back, how long was it from that point to exchange?

NoWordForFluffy · 06/11/2023 11:11

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:02

@NoWordForFluffy Same solicitor firm, different actual solicitors obviously.

Thanks all for survey info- I will get it booked!

I've only ever had one solicitor doing both. Must be how your firm does it though.

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sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:15

@NoWordForFluffy I was told that having the same solicitor (as in the same actual person) doing both was a conflict of interest- I may have been misinformed though!

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:16

@Jayknow I think you can google how long searches take in the area you are purchasing in, to give you a rough idea.

ibelieveinmirrorballs · 06/11/2023 11:42

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:15

@NoWordForFluffy I was told that having the same solicitor (as in the same actual person) doing both was a conflict of interest- I may have been misinformed though!

That’s interesting - never heard that! I have the same for both and always have had 🧐

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:44

I fully believe I've been misinformed- this is my first time buying and selling and I'm getting all my info from asking around/old mumsnet threads 😂

Mine two separate people sit within the same team and apparently literally next to one another in the office, so I'm hoping it won't hold anything up with me!

tealweasel · 06/11/2023 13:17

sweetpickle23 · 06/11/2023 11:15

@NoWordForFluffy I was told that having the same solicitor (as in the same actual person) doing both was a conflict of interest- I may have been misinformed though!

Solicitor here (not a conveyancer, though) - wouldn't expect there to be a conflict of interest where the same client is buying from and selling to genuine third parties on both sides. That said, shouldn't cause a problem provided communication is good within the firm handling the work.

tealweasel · 06/11/2023 13:21

Bit of a stormy end to last week on our sale with an additional piece of specialist surveying from our buyer raising issues which have caused him to ask for a c.5k reduction in price (which from the people we've spoken to independently seems to be about the right number assuming a worst case scenario). Annoying but in the interests of trying to get this closed off we've agreed to pay half and he's accepted that this afternoon. I'm now very keen to get this completed this month so going to start chasing hard on all sides.

EmmaEmerald · 06/11/2023 17:44

Glad things are going well on LR expediting.

Re solicitors, I was also told it was a conflict of interest.

So - things at my end - my solicitor clarified that he had no contact from the buyer since third week of October, hence his weird responses that he was waiting for them.

I've been forwarded emails that they sent all of last week!

I can't see anything wrong in the email addresses so I am puzzled what's happened but it puts us a week behind. Hopefully the tech failure means they will speak to each other.

I still haven't found out who is right or wrong about the high rise documents but as apparently no one is up to date, we have to tackle that first.

It occurred to me that maybe emails are being allocated or filtered by algorithm.

Anyway, I will chase again tomorrow. To complicate it more, the other side's solicitor is off this week.

I still think a lot of what is being requested is already provided but because no one understands the high rise legislation, no one knows what they're looking for.

MovingToPlan · 06/11/2023 22:14

Gahhh

Was just looking (again) at the house we want to buy - waiting to be proceedable- and it's marked Sold STC. It wasn't showing that this morning when I was looking at it. Back to the drawing board. I guess it serves us right for getting set on a property before we were ready.

NoWordForFluffy · 06/11/2023 22:25

Oh how galling, @MovingToPlan. I hope something else comes along which you like.

@MercyNursey, how are you getting on?

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imFUMINGhouseSale · 06/11/2023 22:33

Hi guys, get a snack and a drink this is a long story

Backstory: first time buyer here
viewed my first ever house in July. Fell in love. Before I could put an offer in it was taken off the market under offer (I didn’t have a mortgage in principle so I wasn’t able to move quick enough) they let me view without MIP as I had large deposit (60%) fair enough. I carried on browsing for months online (I work abroad) viewed a few houses when i was in the U.K. here and there but didn’t find anything I loved.

Busy work period calmed down and I was scheduled to be back in U.K. for 6 weeks from Sept . ( i had planned to spend this time viewing and finding my first home)
Day 1 of me landing home I was called by EA and told (original) house sale fell through and back on market. I viewed again and put an offer in next day (mid September 2023)

during the conveyancing process vendors have been constantly rushing saying they are moving into a new empty house and they want the sale to go through quickly. As they have kids entered for a new school in new area. Unfortunately at the viewing I spotted cracks and video them at the time. So I needed these checked in an survey. Got a level 3 builders done. And there were no mention of the cracks on report. When I spoke to surveyor he was very apologetic and couldn’t believe he missed the cracks. I paid 650£ for this. Before survey I specifically told them to view the cracks as damage looked STRUCTUAL and it was missed. I want a refund.

On the phone he advised i get a second survey as when I showed him the pics I had he said it looked bad.
This time structual engineers report. Cost £2000 as it needed to be done quickly. Couple days turn around as vendors were rushing. At this time Vendors also magically found a structual engineers report they had done for said cracks 4 days before I was re contacted about the property. Suggesting I would not need my own report because they already done one and the cracks were nothing to worry about . I didn’t trust them and got my own as their report was very vague and seemed bias to them.

when engineer went to take a look he told me all cracks have attempted to be covered up by paints and filler. This would explain why first surveyor couldn’t see anything!!! When I questioned vendors they got very defensive stating they hadn’t done anything to mess with surveys. I drove there myself and could see from outside cracks had been covered.
this is disappointing as I wanted genuine feedback from reports and both were tampered with. Legally is there something I can do?
for the works and repairs I was quoted 7.5-15000£ for replacement lintels or helibars and re rendering. Of course the vendors did not care and did not budge when offered 10k less for the works. They stuck their ground. I really didn’t want to lose the house so I still went ahead.

FAST FOWARD TO TODAY
solicitors fees
mortgage fees
surveys
searches. I’ve probably spent 10k on this process …. And they have pulled out.
WEEK OF EXCHANGE. received a call from EA today saying they have had a problem with their mortgage and lender and they won’t be selling their house or buying a new one. I’m absolutely fuming.

they have rushed me from the start
they didn’t take into consideration any of the works that needed doing
they were dishonest and obstructed my surveys.

im just so upset honestly how could people be so cruel! Venting here coz I don’t know who else to talk to!

is there anything legal I can do about them obstructing my surveys ?
I find it weird that their previous sale fell through, they’ve been rushing and at the final hurdle apparently something is wrong with their mortgage. Surely that would be really if they were 95% of the way there before.

Originally the ea said the buyers pulled out and are looking in another are but I’m smelling something fishy.

waiting on my solicitor to get back to me. She’s asked their solicitor for an update and explanation

EmmaEmerald · 07/11/2023 10:53

EA has now complicated things more in a way I can't explain

He said he's trying to trigger a conversation because the solicitors don't seem to be speaking to each other, but the comment he's thrown into the mix is hugely unhelpful

And my solicitor isn't in today.

Argh.

EmmaEmerald · 07/11/2023 11:04

@imFUMINGhouseSale

Firstly, I am so sorry for everything you've been through

I am not a lawyer, there is a legal board if you want to post there

I think that you might have a case against the original surveyor but they'd just give you a refund

They might try to argue that "missing the cracks" was them thinking they were cosmetic

Anyone can pull out any time before exchange without incurring any legal or financial penalty - assuming you're buying in England.

it's a shitty system.

imFUMINGhouseSale · 07/11/2023 12:25

Thanks for the reply. It’s been hugely stressful and so upsetting! :(

where can I find the legal board? Sorry I’m struggling to navigate. Haha