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Have you ever collapsed a chain? How did it feel?

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Finallybreathingout · 08/11/2022 08:54

Very long, sorry!

We are close to exchange on a house; we’re the bottom of the chain as we have already sold ours. Our vendors are buying a house of real sentimental significance to them - they only put the house on the market to grab the chance to buy it. So there is a LOT of emotional investment. They are really nice people and would live very locally, and have welcomed us to the community.

We had a long delay getting our final mortgage offer owing to underwriting issues so have already delayed things. We also changed solicitors as our original one was dreadful and we didn’t have confidence in them, so we have already been crap buyers, much to my mortification. But things were finally running smoothly.

Then enquiries came back and there are no building regs. To cut a very long story short, indemnities won’t cut it, the material value of the house is affected, and we’d need building work which is currently very roughly estimated at about 10% of the purchase price all costs included. We are weighing up whether to ask for a retention or just to pull out. We really didn’t want to do building work, so immediately we are in a situation we’d looked to avoid, and it will cause major inconvenience to the whole family.

Has anyone ever pulled out and collapsed a chain? Did you sleep at night? This is so difficult but I feel I’m putting the feelings of total strangers above my own self interest. We like the house very much but could carry on renting and find another without all these issues. Everyone else involved has their plans ruined, and all the same sunk costs wasted as us. This is awful, and because it’s now so last minute, even if we ask for the retention we’re going to look like those people who gazunder. We’ve already said we would take the fact that the house is old and needs a new boiler and probably rewiring on the chin and not negotiate over all that.

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RidingMyBike · 15/11/2022 18:10

HOORAY!! WineWineWineWine

BrilliantGreenFlamingo · 16/11/2022 11:10

That’s great

Mildura · 16/11/2022 11:24

Finallybreathingout · 15/11/2022 17:31

Just to say that our offer on the new house has been accepted. And we are so excited.

Brilliant news!

Mildura · 16/11/2022 11:25

NellyBarney · 13/11/2022 11:09

The seller should do the work and get ot signed off before selling, or accept a realistic deduction in price. Buying and selling is a fragile process. Have both collapsed a chain (mortgage offer was withdrawn) and had buyers pull out. But also have scrambled to get building regs signed off for works that we realised lacked paperwork last minute, and paid for works to get it sorted. It's a business deal. You are not responsible at all for the feelings of the sellers. If they are invested in a dream property, they should have got their eggs in order or take out a bridging loan.

At what point would you consider to be the cut-off for having documentation?

Finallybreathingout · 16/11/2022 12:24

I think for me the answer to that question is whether it's recent enough that the lack of building regs could be hiding problems that could come back to bite me/be dangerous. The lack of them for selling on is also an issue obviously, including the issue around legal designation of bedrooms in our situation.

So the last house we bought didn't have buildings regs on a fairly recent extension, and the house itself was Victorian and wouldn't meet modern standards. But the thing that turned out to be dangerous was the very badly done extension - the new work we did had to make some changes to the original structure to make them compliant to current regs to tick the box, but weren't a concern. And I guess for anything done since the 80s, when buildings regs were considered a part of any properly done project, the lack of them makes me suspect there might be issues because it's an indication of corners cut.

Otherwise, if a survey says the property is in good nick, then that's enough (if no legal problems arise).

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toenails · 16/11/2022 17:14

That's totally great. So pleased for you.

Thefriendlyone · 16/11/2022 17:22

Finallybreathingout · 13/11/2022 10:55

I should have said, the house disappeared from the market within hours, and the house they were going to buy reappeared, so they have clearly decided not to sell now, whether because they are working out the ins and outs of the house or not I don’t know. So I wonder if the agents pushed them into going back on immediately and then their solicitor or someone else suggested that might not be the right thing to do. No way of knowing, but they’re not proceeding with a new sale so far as I can tell.

I have thought all the way through that they are not acting with any bad intention at all and are the ones who have come off worst in all this.

How sad for them, I guess as they hung around so long for mortgage etc and then lost their buyers their sellers just told them to do one and went back on the market looking for someone proceedanle, as they were only looking to buy that house. They must be devastated

SunshineLoving · 16/11/2022 17:22

Just read all your posts. I would definitely have made the same decision as you and maybe it sounds selfish but I wouldn't feel awful about it. Buying a house is usually your biggest investment. It's so important and it needs to be right. It's you life, your house and your money. If there were no building regulations, that's their fault. They would have known about it.

Well done on finding the new house. I hope this goes through smoothly. Onwards and upwards x

Finallybreathingout · 16/11/2022 17:37

Thefriendlyone · 16/11/2022 17:22

How sad for them, I guess as they hung around so long for mortgage etc and then lost their buyers their sellers just told them to do one and went back on the market looking for someone proceedanle, as they were only looking to buy that house. They must be devastated

Yes, I’m sure they are. That makes me very sad.

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