Need to build extension that will most likely cover at least half the patio

[Fressia123]

I've been reading about the "half the land around the original house". We live in an end of terrace with a tiny patio (3x5m) and need to build some sort of extension that will create a 4th bedroom. Is this impossible?

@RonaRossi

Give the 3 dsc the largest room and use room dividers. Bunks for the girls in one part, single for dss in the other part. You and dh have the smaller double. Baby in the box room. No one has to sleep outside, everyone has a permanent space.

Yeah but OP wouldn't then have an excuse for putting the 13 year old in a shed and posting on MN about it!

Also op you can’t leave a child over night alone, under 16. If you are deemed to be putting the child at risk, you’d be prosecuted for neglect. And quite rightly too. Find another solution.

www.olliers.com/news/at-what-age-can-a-child-legally-be-left-alone/

@Fressia123

No, the two youngest ones would sleep in a.bunk cot.

Are you actually pregnant?

More kids? When you are considering putting one on the patio? Pisstake surely?

I'm still missing why the youngest can't just be in with you, and why you end up sleeping downstairs? You sound like you have sufficient space right now, if cramped.

Is this a reincarnation of the box room troll?

Is it one daughter or two?

There's a box room troll?!

OP has a DSS aged 13, there are two girls aged 10 and 8 (one is OP's and the other is her DP's) and they also have a baby son together.

Four children when the family is all together which you'd think would be plenty...

I thought I remembered the OP from another thread where there was one daughter. Could have been somewhere else.

Haven't seen boxroom troll for a few years now, maybe they're back!

If op is suggesting building a temporary building outside (akin to luxury shed) she will find that planning/housing will state categorically that it CANNOT be slept in overnight -If anybody sleeps out there I suggest it should be you or your dp - separately - to stop you having another baby!
Honestly either op is a troll...
Can't think of reasonable alternative

You strike me as quite impulsive OP. Making hasty decisions and not thinking through the consequences.

I'm staggered that you were pondering an extension earlier today, which changed into a stand-alone building, then a garden house with outdoor loo.

And you've included DSS in these discussions. I think that's pretty irresponsible. He will either be feeling unwelcome, or excited. Your plans are in the early days yet you've put these thoughts in his head. Poor boy.

And I hope to goodness you're not planning another child. Sort a settled situation for your existing family first.

OP, I've had a read through some of your other threads. In one, you say you can't afford childcare yet you've got £25k to spend on a shed Doesn't quite add up...

They have bigger issues with him sleeping in the lounge/dining room.
Well you chose and bought the house and had the youngest child - why don't you give up your room on those nights and sleep in the dining room?

OP why did you build the high sleeper. The photos of your house on rightmove show the sizes of the rooms and the layouts. You have a separate lounge which could have a bed settee in and is private. The baby could have the box room. You could have the second bedroom and the large bedroom could be divided.

What are the ages of the boys and girls?

You need to stop having kids. You can get precious about your baby having his own room when your partner has 3 other kids from previous relationship(s).

1 bedroom for you
1 bedroom for the girls to share
1 box room for DSS

Baby stays in your room until he’s old enough to go into a bed and then goes into a bunk bed in box room. By that time DSS will be 15 and want nothing to do with your crazy ideas

Just turn the living room into a bedroom, the dining room into a living room, or if you really want a dining room split the living room so half for a bedroom for dss and half for the dining room and the dining room becomes the living room. The up the stairs, the girls share a room, baby in the box room and you have your room. Seems pretty obvious really.

Wow plenty of righteous do Gooders on here ............ 😀

Either put an extension or conservatory on the back next to the kitchen. Or your lounge is dual aspect, partition the front off into a small single (or the back but the front looks more convenient). I’d probably then make the dining room the living room or can you open it up into an open plan living/dining room? Is also seriously think about putting an additional shower room in for all those people. You can’t have a kid sleeping in the garden unattached to the house, it’s not safe. It doesn’t even look like your garden is fully enclosed

All rooms living/dining room are too small to be split and leave anything remotely usable.

The parents of the 13yo have decided it's more acceptable to live in a room in the patio than to share with a toddler.

He doesn't need to share with the toddler though. The toddler needs to share with you.

The the parents are wrong and if they are caught, either because the school finds out or another parent they will be done for neglect and you risk loosing all your kids.

This is the sort of stuff you read about in the media. Parents charged with neglect for making their child sleep in a out building whilst planning more babies.

You can easily make either your living room or dining room a permanent bedroom, or habe a sofa bed in it and house all your joint children. And if you’d like to be sure to keep all your kids the I suggest you both step up and do it.

Yes , which is what we're now trying to avoid as the toddler only wants cuddles and it's not great for his sleep (and why we sleep in the dining room when we have a full house).

Most nights he's in a travel cot in the bigger sleeping room. Full house he's in his cot in our bedroom.

@Chumleymouse

Wow plenty of righteous do Gooders on here ............ 😀

Yes, because anyone who doesn’t have their thirteen year old sleeping in the garden in a wooden outbuilding is a righteous do gooder.

I think you need to make the reception room on the left of the plan a permanent bedroom. Make the other reception room a living room come dining room, and have 3 bedrooms upstairs.
I'm not sure the 13 year old will feel any more welcome having to sleep in a toddlers bedroom than having to sleep in the glamping pod. He may well prefer to be out there. But I don't think that's the safest option.
Maybe once he's older you could consider it again, and then get your two reception rooms back.

Why can't the toddler sleep with the girls ?

The current dining room is too small to be used as a dual use room. The living room is bigger (or at least feels that way a d thus the one that could potentially be properly extended) but it's not practical as it's the furthest away from the kitchen.