Need to build extension that will most likely cover at least half the patio

[Fressia123]

I've been reading about the "half the land around the original house". We live in an end of terrace with a tiny patio (3x5m) and need to build some sort of extension that will create a 4th bedroom. Is this impossible?

Exactly that's why we're calling one but I'm pretty certain it won't be allowed. That's why the first step has always been an architect.

Or ask a local planning officer?

I've always thought it's the architect who can see what and can't be done structurally and then with those options ask a planning officer (there's a checking service).

Could you do a small 2 storey proper extension on the back of the lounge, to the left of the kitchen to make a larger lounge downstairs and another box room upstairs to the left of the bathroom? Could potentially just go out by 1.5m?

They can advise of any local restrictions on dormers etc. Architect will probably charge you.

I know an architect will charge me, but at least we'll know structurally what can and can't be done (or if it needs steal work, etc...) The checking service isn't free either. It's £75

After looking again, you and your dh should have the living room as your bedroom, the dining room becomes your living and dining area. The baby goes in the box room, dss has the smaller bedroom and the two girls share the bigger bedroom. You then get a pod for the garden for your office. Much better than having a child sleeping alone in the garden, no matter how much of an adventure they'd feel it was.

@longtompot

After looking again, you and your dh should have the living room as your bedroom, the dining room becomes your living and dining area. The baby goes in the box room, dss has the smaller bedroom and the two girls share the bigger bedroom. You then get a pod for the garden for your office. Much better than having a child sleeping alone in the garden, no matter how much of an adventure they'd feel it was.

Oh but there is a problem with that. I dunno what but OP will come let us know real soon. 🤔

Well the only problem there is that I think the baby should keep the bigger room. He's here FT after all. But the dining room doesn't fit a dining table and a big sofa. The living room potentially does but it also houses a baby grand. That piano is used by three of us. I think the living room is a perfect square (4x4) or thereabouts. You might think I'm the stubborn one but my DO is the one who find an issue with all suggestions.

Babies don't need big rooms. Or rooms at all tbh.

The dining room is about 3.5x3.5m

@Fressia123

Well the only problem there is that I think the baby should keep the bigger room. He's here FT after all. But the dining room doesn't fit a dining table and a big sofa. The living room potentially does but it also houses a baby grand. That piano is used by three of us. I think the living room is a perfect square (4x4) or thereabouts. You might think I'm the stubborn one but my DO is the one who find an issue with all suggestions.

You also need room for a baby grand!!!! Of course you do!

OP you're hilarious!

I work in the music industry we do have a few instruments throughout the house. The baby grand, a synth and three guitars.

Well the glamping pod would make a good studio?

Now I don't believe you, from previous posts.

What don't you believe?

But actually the glamping pod of were to extend/divide the living room is a good place for all the instruments

longtompot
After looking again, you and your dh should have the living room as your bedroom, the dining room becomes your living and dining area. The baby goes in the box room, dss has the smaller bedroom and the two girls share the bigger bedroom. You then get a pod for the garden for your office. Much better than having a child sleeping alone in the garden, no matter how much of an adventure they'd feel it was.

Oh but there is a problem with that.
I dunno what but OP will come let us know real soon. 🤔

That did make me laugh @Danni91

I agree, I think no matter what we suggest, op is going to find an issue. Surely the baby grand should have come up sooner. Could it go in the pod?
The baby does not need a big room. When they do, dss will be of an age he won't be staying over as much, so the baby can go into the bigger room and you could do a futon or similar in the box room.

You need to be thinking of what will work for your family, and what they need. My ed has a cello, but it's had to be stored in our attic as she just doesn't have the space to play it. I understand your instruments are for your job, and not like my eds cello just something she lives to play, but they really should go in the garden office pod. Your family need somewhere safe and warm to live.

Fit a new kitchen in one of the other downstairs rooms so it becomes a kitchen diner, with the other big downstairs room as a living room. What's now the small kitchen becomes a bedroom.

The box room doesn't fit a double bed so we wouldn't be able to use it.

Kitchen vas bedroom could have some potential . Kitchen diner a possibility but can you remove a chimney breast?

And for the record I don't use the instruments for work per se, but do a lot of out of hours collaborations .

A baby grand! Ah this is the thread that keeps on giving!

It is going around in circles with all the repeated suggestions and objections.

But now there's scope for a new suggestion which is a garden studio for all the instruments, you might also be able to fit a desk in there for WFH / homework.

Then you'll have plenty of space in the living and/or dining room for sleeping if and when required.

There's the baby grand and guitar cases!

Just a suggestion ..

Why not put your children and step kids above hour musicial instrument?

Rent a council garage at £50/60 a month and use that.

We dont put young kids in sheds to sleep because we dont want to move our pianos

All things given you must be a great troll or mentally unwell.

Extention for SS to have his own room.
No not attached to our house you crazy folk.
The doors unlocked..
Oh but but ..
We may add a bathroom for him outside to use.
Not on the patio no, the decking
Ok yes, it's a shed. We want a shed.
Ok so we may lock the door.
Our baby sleeps in a travel cot in stepsons room but we think our 1 year old needs it more.
Ok we have an actual cot in our room but we only use that when we sleep downstairs.
Ive lots of money but bought a small house in a cheap area to make sure we had room for our piano but not our step kid.

The reasons im asking for cheap ideas is because i dont actually wanna spend money moving or renting extra space i just wanna have a extra baby and then kick my stepdaughter to the shed.

Oh btw his dad and mum and totally fine with him sleeping outside in the garden at 13 because its such an adventure!

Who needs safety security toileting or comfort at 13.

Absolute dickhead.

A shed will do.
13 yr old stepchild vs piano.