Need to build extension that will most likely cover at least half the patio

[Fressia123]

I've been reading about the "half the land around the original house". We live in an end of terrace with a tiny patio (3x5m) and need to build some sort of extension that will create a 4th bedroom. Is this impossible?

But why you sleeping in the dining room?

The box room is way too small for two older girls. DP doesn't want to divide any of the bedrooms (I've already suggested this a million times).

So the baby can sleep on his own in our bedroom. That's why.

I know!!!!

OP you and dp sleep in the shed! Baby and bump get one room, girls another and DSS the box room!

You could even have the dog in with you to keep you warm.

So why can't SS sleep on a sofa bed in the dining room or living room? You said its u hygenic but im not sure why. Millions do.

He can have his own futon for the night and a television in the dining room?

You are joking, right?! They can't leave all the children alone in the house.

The baby has very interrupted sleep when he sleeps with us (or anyone for that matter) a thus why were trying to give him his own space

So why are you planning for him
To share with dc5 when he/she arrrives? Oh I know - newborn with you two in the shed!

@AnotherEmma

You are joking, right?! They can't leave all the children alone in the house.

Why not? They clearly don't give a fuck about parenting, supervising, wellbeing etc?

@titchy

The baby has very interrupted sleep when he sleeps with us (or anyone for that matter) a thus why were trying to give him his own space

So why are you planning for him
To share with dc5 when he/she arrrives? Oh I know - newborn with you two in the shed!

But she likes those kids. itll never work

Im not sure why its not ok for SS to sleep downstairs but you and OH can.

Is that you Boxy?! Not seen you in years if so!

But assuming you're not the Box room troll, and putting aside the whole ' am I allowed a glancing pod in my garden' thing ... this is really wrong on many levels.

You cannot put a 13 year old outside to sleep in a shes. Yes for a sleepover with mates but not as a permanent thing whenever he comes over. He may well think it's cool but he's still little - if he was 17, then you'd have a point

Because he deserves his own space/room. Both parents have said that they wouldn't agree for him to sleep in the lounge if it's not just his.

I wouldn't be trying for another baby under these circumstances.

The baby would only come of we can resolve a working solution for the 4th bedroom.

@Fressia123

Because he deserves his own space/room. Both parents have said that they wouldn't agree for him to sleep in the lounge if it's not just his.

Oh my this is going round in circles

Then give him the dining room so it’s just his. Or one of the bedrooms. You’ve loads of options.

Not liking them doesn’t mean they are not much more viable options than a shed in the garden with an outside loo.

But it's a massive waste of space when it's empty more than. 70% of the time. In that way I'd rather sleep downstairs less than that 30% of the time that closing a room permanently for the rest of the family.

OP.

Why don't you call social services and have a chat about what you propose? If it's a viable option then that's great, you can go ahead and look into getting planning permission etc. What we say on here is irrelevant.

If you have any concerns at all about calling social services then maybe you should stop and think about why that is. And come up with an alternative solution that doesn't involve sending your dss to bed in a glorified shed.

That's actually a decent idea, I'll call NSPCC or there's another charity Family Lives? And see what they think. I'll so speak to an architect because that's our first point of call.

What’s the difference between someone sleeping in a tent in the garden 2 nights a week and someone sleeping in a wooden structure on the garden ......... none.
Just do what you want op and don’t tell anyone too many snobs on here

Sleeping in a tent isn't OK either!

How often do you have all 3 non resident children at once? You woukd be better relooking at loft tbh. The roof level could probably be raised with a dormer.

About 25% of the time. No dormers anywhere around here so I'm sure they're not allowed.

The box room is way too small for two older girls

Well surely you know that dc grow. You're on about bunk cots - what about when the box room is too small for your youngest and hypothetical new baby dc5?

By that time (6 -7 years from now) DSS would have moved out one girl goes to 4th bedroom one to box room, babies to bigger room.

But an architect would know what is possible and what is allowed, but it seems like you have dismissed it already. Similar style houses here have them , even if on back only, including some in a Conservation area.