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Made wrong move out of London. Help me get it right second time...

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backtothegrindstone · 17/05/2019 17:31

The title says it all really. We moved out of London nearly 2 years ago to Dorking in Surrey. Its a pretty nice town, but we realised fairly quickly that it just wasn't the right fit for us, and after a lot of soul searching, we've decided that we'd like to move again whilst the kids are still young enough to get over it, with the aim of finding somewhere we can call home for good. There's nothing massively wrong with Dorking, but neither of us can imagine spending the rest of our lives here. There's just too many small elements missing and when you add them all together it makes one big reason not to stay. But I'm terrified of moving again and making the same mistake again. And there are just so many places we could go that I just don't know where to start. I'm hoping people could give me some ideas for places that might be a good fit for us, so I can start looking again?

We were really happy in London as we had a good circle of friends and a nice house, but we didn't really go into central London anymore and spent more and more time in our local neighbourhood. As more and more of our friends started to move out we had less and less reasons to stay and wanted a less hectic lifestyle for our boys. Now we've left, we are fairly sure we don't want to move back to London, but the move out has made us realise that there are a few 'city' things we can't live without that we're just not finding in Dorking. I'm hoping we can find at least most of them somewhere a bit greener and cleaner than London.

So negatives about Dorking for us have been that it's just a little too 'countrysidey' for us. We don't ride horses or have a dog or go mountain biking and we don't really feel like we quite fit in here. We've found the high street just a bit lacking in nice clothes shops and restaurants (especially non-chain restaurants, ideally ones that do brunch!), and it feels like a lot of stuff has closed down even in the 2 years we've been here. We've also really struggled to find a suitable house to buy here (we're looking for a 4+ bedroom detached period house with a decent sized garden within walking distance of the mainline station).

Ideally we're looking to move to a reasonably pretty and leafy 'commuter' town within an hour commute of London (preferably from a station with a minimum of 2 trains an hour) where you don't have to drive to do everyday stuff. Essentials include a supermarket, some decent cafes for brunch and lunch, some nice family friendly pubs, a private gym with a pool nearby, maybe a few decent boutiques and some facilities for kids like parks, playgrounds etc. Oh, and decent schools are a must. Other awesome bonuses would be access to Uber, a reasonable selection of takeaways, some decent bars/pubs and maybe a cinema.

Our house budget is reasonably health, and we're happy to go back within the M25 as long as it still feels green and leafy.

Am I asking the impossible?

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Inferiorbeing · 04/06/2019 18:36

Chelmsford?

Oblomov19 · 04/06/2019 19:23

Op won't be able to afford to buy in the: Surbiton/Teddington/Richmond suggestions now, surely?

She might have been able to if she purchased there, from London, but not now she's gone to Dorking? How will she be able to afford to move back in?

backtothegrindstone · 04/06/2019 19:56

Don't quite understand @Oblomov19? Out budget is £1.2m regardless of where we're moving from?

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JoJoSM2 · 04/06/2019 20:28

Isn’t Surbiton/Teddigton/Richmond too built up for you? I thought you were a bit more after space, greenery and countryside?

backtothegrindstone · 04/06/2019 20:52

I am @JojoSM2. Mostly just interested in what @Oblomov19 meant

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mumslave · 04/06/2019 21:04

Berkhamsted always really impresses me. Not sure what the housing stock’s like, but the high st is lovely and the commute into London is quick and reliable.

Oblomov19 · 05/06/2019 21:00

Sorry, I misunderstood. I just assumed you'd have trouble financially moving back in after moving so far out. Sorry.

backtothegrindstone · 05/06/2019 21:17

Amazingly, Dorking is just about as expensive as where we lived in London @Oblomov19. That's Surrey for you!

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SophyStantonLacy · 06/06/2019 06:22

why not Winchester?

backtothegrindstone · 06/06/2019 09:01

Winchester is too far @SophyStantonLacy. We need to be able to drive into London.

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User10fuckingmillion · 06/06/2019 09:06

Fucking hell OP I’d pack it all in move up north and buy a mansion with that budget! Grin

BlueSkiesLies · 06/06/2019 09:21

That Canterbury house is totally delicious!

CarolineTheChemist · 06/06/2019 15:51

Definitely consider Tunbridge Wells!

Best free schools (grammars) for miles around, good selection of period properties, boutiquey shops and bars in the Pantiles and substantially cheaper houses than in Surrey.

I live in Guildford right now and it's lovely, but it's very expensive and competitive to buy here.

TheFaerieQueene · 06/06/2019 16:05

I’m not sure if anyone has meant Jones Windsor but it might suit.

TheFaerieQueene · 06/06/2019 16:06

Mentioned not meant Jones whatever that means

goldpendant · 06/06/2019 17:09

How are you getting on OP? I'm following your thread because I expect we will make a similar move in the next 5 years or so.

We're in one of the towns you've visited, and currently really happy but do wish for a bit more space, bigger garden, driveway etc. The problem seems to be that prices are consistently high- particularly for nice period properties- across most of these towns.

Surprised you vetoed Esher, I think it's got a nice range of shops and restaurants, and not far from Surbiton/Thames Ditton or Kingston for further variety. Have you come across anywhere comparable further out you could recommend for me?!

Did you consider Ham? It's not far from Richmond but prices are a lot lower. Property is a bit more modern, plenty of 1930s stuff. If you don't need a train station and you drive into London this could work for you. Richmond is 10 mins bus or 5 min drive or a lovely walk along the river.

goldpendant · 06/06/2019 17:20

In Ham....

I know it's not period, but big garden, needs work/modernising.... and very very leafy location.

Lock Road, Richmond
www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-57668568.html

backtothegrindstone · 06/06/2019 18:27

Thanks @goldpendant. We're not really into Richmond or Ham due to them being on the Heathrow flightpath. And I really don't think I could live in a modern house anyway - that'd definitely be a dealbreaker for me! I just can't cope with the low ceilings. Esher is nice, but it just doesn't have the things we're looking for - no gyms with pools, the station is nowhere near most of the houses, and we took a walk down the high street and realised that most of the restaurants seem to be either chains or Chinese and that there wasn't really any cafe culture - we were there on a saturday morning and there only seemed to be one independent cafe open. I'm not mad keen on all the gated housing developments too - it just all seems a bit too posh for us. Further out, maybe Reigate would suit you? Haven't been to that many places yet as we can't move for another year yet anyway (as tied into mortgage at present) so its not super pressing for us- we're just looking in a very leisurely way.

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800msprint · 06/06/2019 18:37

How come Reigate doesn't suit you OP? Or Tun Wells? Guildford seems the obvious choice if you want to stay near to Dorking though.

girlfromsurrey · 06/06/2019 18:46

You should look at Claygate. I think it has everything you're after. Great schools, easy 35 min train to London, easy A3/M25 access, green spaces, excellent high street with station in centre. We made the move recently and we are so happy here!

carbuncleonapigsposterior · 06/06/2019 19:49

I live in Teddington, and have for about 35 years, our kids have grown up now and flown the nest so we may downsize, or maybe even sidesize, so possibly not to a smaller, but certainly a cheaper property, because this is a very expensive area. So we like Horsham, 12 miles or so due south of Dorking. It has an awful lot going for it imo. A huge new Waitrose with two floors of John Lewis Home, a brand new Everyman where the old Waitrose was. Plenty of nice eating chains, Bills, Cote, Giggling Squid, Wagamamas, Pizza Express, a fair amount of shops all set in a market town, so that would be our number 1, I don't know what the commute would be like but that isn't something we need to do anymore. Other favoured towns for us are Weybridge, Cobham, Farnham, Godalming, Petersfield, Haslemere, Reigate. I know what you mean about Dorking OP there are quite a few closed shops and although it's a lovely setting there's a slight down at the heel feel to it.

However I think Teddington would fit your brief OP, I would recommend it to any young family it's a wonderful place with good public transport so easy for older kids to get around, good schools, lovely outdoor green spaces, I'd miss Bushy Park like crazy if we did move, especially the Woodland Gardens and Pheasantry Cafe. We have a really nice high street with loads of coffee shops, independent non chain ones you mentioned, serving brunch type food in fact the more popular ones such as The Fallow Deer, are hard to get into at the weekends. In addition A large M&S Food Hall, nice individual shops. Several family health clubs/sports clubs are on our doorstep, David Lloyds, Nuffield, a good local swimming pool with gym, bigger ones in Kingston and nearby Richmond, we have a skatepark, cricket tennis, rowing and football clubs it's all here. Then of course there is Kingston on our doorstep with all that has to offer. The riverside has been really developed with loads of bars and restaurants, we have a Waitrose with John Lewis above, a multi screen cinema with restaurants. London is just over half an hour a way on the train, Hampton Court nearby and Richmond also a lovely place to shop, with its beautiful theatre on Richmond Green that's surrounded by Georgian houses, the river and Richmond Park which is quite spectacular.

backtothegrindstone · 06/06/2019 21:02

@800msprint I have some reasons for not wanting to live in Reigate, probably a bit personal to go into here! Its a great town though and definitely ticks lots of our boxes. @girlfromsurrey I like to the look of Claygate but worry its too tiny. Do you find you can do most of your living there, or do you have to head elsewhere to go out for a drink or socialise? I know you have a co-op but is Esher your nearest proper supermarket? @carbuncleonapigsposterior I know Horsham quite well - we go there quite regularly. Its really nice, but the train is a little too slow and a lot too expensive unfortunately. Also a little lacking in brunch spots! You're right about Dorking shops - its got so much worse in the 2 years we've been here too with so much closing and little opening. Teddington would definitely be of interest but I hear its super pricey?

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goldpendant · 06/06/2019 21:06

@backtothegrindstone I know what you mean about ceiling heights. I can't look at properties with low ones either 😬

I wish you luck with finding just the right spot - really interested to hear Horsham has so much. I've never been but might take a speculative drive out myself one day.... do you get much more for the money there than Teddington/North Kingston? Is there decent period housing stock?

Sorry, didn't mean to hijack, back to the search for OP!

goldpendant · 06/06/2019 21:07

Teddington, plane noise a problem surely??

backtothegrindstone · 06/06/2019 21:34

@goldpendant Horsham is lovely and full of lovely big victorian houses. Its also super cheap compared to Surrey. But the trade off is the train is over an hour and the season ticket is about £4k a year so you have to factor that in. Just as an example, this is pretty well located for town and the station www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/property-72030556.html

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