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bodenaddict · 01/09/2009 16:17

hi ladies here is our new thread

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golgi · 14/09/2009 21:11

Hope all goes more smoothly for everyone tomorrow. My boy apparently had a good day, but no further information was forthcoming in the ten minutes we spent together this evening (I was working late today).
He's not a rough-and-tumbler either.

paisleyleaf · 14/09/2009 21:34

oh Moodlum, your poor DS. I hope it gets sorted.

My DD seemed to have good day. Well she did, the class sang happy birthday to her (she was 5 over the weekend). But I think she's unhappy with her work/life balance at the moment. There just wasn't enough hours in the day by the time she got in, to do everything she wanted to do.

PinkTulips · 14/09/2009 22:32

moodlum.

ds1 has ishoos with rough play too... apparently 3 different boys were mean to him at playschool today and pushed/hit him.

delivery, good luck to you and your dd for tomorrow

dd is scooting around on her bum loads but still won't use the crutches so looks unlikely she'll be back at any point soon

roundabout1 · 15/09/2009 09:29

Morning everyone
I thought dd was doing well yesterday, fear of hand driers partially sorted, & coped with doing a full day relatively well. Last night dd wouldn't go to sleep, wasn't upset but could tell something was on her mind. Then she told me how scared she was at lunchtime, she was slow eating her packed lunch so all the other reception children had gone out to the playground. She started crying as didn't want to eat any more & then an older girl who had joined her at the table went & got a dinner lady, the dinner lady told her to go outside but didn't tell her the way. According to my daughter she was walking the corridors of the school unsure of how to get to the playground, she could see it through the windows but couldn't find a door to it & she couldn't find any teachers to help for ages. Then at last someone helped her & took her outside but no one played with her. Then in the afternoon she annoyed one of the few children she knows in her class by sitting in her chair & she was worried in case said girl was still cross with her today. The thought of my dd walking round a school unsure of where to go really upset me.
This morning we had tears in the playground (a first) she has tummy ache, she's worried that no one will play with her cos no one likes her. When I took her in to the classroom there was only one TA there sorting all the kids out & I couldn't make a very quick get away so she just got more & more upset. I'm sitting here in tears & feeling pathetic about being so upset. She's just so young & so sensitive & so shy she's finding it hard & so am I!

thegrammerpolicesic · 15/09/2009 10:04

Roundabout I don't think you're being pathetic at all. Your poor little dd
She sounds like she had a tough and stressful day and I hope today is better for her and you.

norfolklass · 15/09/2009 10:06

Aww roundabout...Ive got tears in my eyes thinking about her wandering around the school on her own looking for a way out-poor little thing. Hope it goes better today. And no you are not being silly cause if you are then I am too lol!

Hoodlum-your poor DS as well-hope your DH manages to have a word today.

Acinonyx-really glad that the teacher has sussed that your dd isn't being naughty...you'd honestly think that teachers would be aware that for most of the children it is a very new and scary experience.

Well my DS went in really well today and had a lovely day yesterday...although he seems a bit put out that they aren't doing any "work" yet lol!! Im sure that will change soon enough.

I told him that if was a good boy this morning and went into school happy then nanny & grandad would come over this afternoon to pick him up with me (had already organised this with my parents yesterday-they live 25 miles away so a bit of a trip for them!) but when I called them after I dropped him at school they said they couldn't come cause my mum is really poorly with a stomach upset. Honestly I didn't mean to be cross but its really annoyed me (which I know is awful!) but I promised him they'd be there if he was good...and now he was good and they can't be there. I even called DH to try and see if he could take afternoon off instead but he's got a meeting so can't...and in-laws are away! Just my luck lol!

teafortwo · 15/09/2009 10:16

roundabout1 - That happened to me !!!! aheeeem years ago in my first few days at school!!! Until I read your post I had compleely forgotten about it!

I remember finding the bigger ones REALLY scary and the hallway seeming so long and daunting. The good news is I survived the experience and I don't think it has left any mental scars on me!

At the school I taught at last we paired the littles up with the big ones who had the responsibility of looking after them. It was amazing how suddenly the ambience of the school changed. The little ones adored the biggies and the biggies were very grounded and careful at playtimes.

I wonder if there is a child in an older class who could be appointed to keep an eye on your dd at lunchtimes? It is often a wonderful experience for the older and younger child.

newspaperdelivery · 15/09/2009 10:52

Oh roundabout. And norfolklass thay can't make it. Big hugs to you both.

OK. 1st drop off. Am a shambles and tearfull - but held it together and didn't cry or show stress to dd.

I am feeling really restless nad anxious so going to bed whilst baby is asleep.

x

roundabout1 · 15/09/2009 11:19

Thank you for making my reaction feel normal, dp thinks I'm over reacting & being over emotional - mind you it's not him prising dd off hands & handing over to a stranger is it! So pleased some lo's are happily going into school, hopefully soon they will all get there.
teafortwo - I can remember getting lost in secondary school & walking up a long corridor not having a clue where I was. I'm sure she will have more good memories to counteract the bad/traumatic ones soon - fingers crossed!

moodlumthehoodlum · 15/09/2009 11:40

Morning ladies -

well done newspaper - good work. You deserve that sleep. Hope dd has a good day.

Roundabout - that breaks my heart - hopefully today will be a less stressful day. DD now tells me if I put something in her lunchbox that slows her down, because she was getting upset being the last to finish.

So many ups and downs. Hopefully everyone's LOs will have more good days than bad as the term goes on.

DH had a 'word' this morning, and although we haven't had a chance for a proper convo about it, he did say that the staff were good about it.

Its at times like these I really regret my decision to not send dd and ds to the same school. She might have been around to help him out, which would have been nice .

bodenaddict · 15/09/2009 12:44

lots of things going on

my dd1 starts thursday!!

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newspaperdelivery · 15/09/2009 20:49

Havign a huge clothes clearout in hopes that can fit the uniform somewhere. DD1 has 18 long sleeved tops. Not counting seasonal stashes under the bed!!!

SHe has totally grown out of the size 3 blouses - waste of £20 they are the organic ones Might list them.

Hope the feedback from DH was good Moodlum. It will pass, and dd would be quite limited in what she could do really. So yo mustn't feel too bad.

Hope things getting easier Roundabout.

golgi · 15/09/2009 20:51

They're just so little, aren't they.
No wobbles here yet - boy came home with another sticker - this time for threading the most beads in a minute. Not sure if any "work" has been attempted yet.

He has "big children" sitting on the table with them at lunchtime and I think he is duping them into opening his juice etc. by batting his eyelashes and looking cute.

Aranea · 15/09/2009 20:51

Did she enjoy her first day, newspaper?

newspaperdelivery · 15/09/2009 21:05

I think so.

She didn't eat much, there didn't seem to be much help for them, with straws and such like. So she spilt her spilt of custard and doesn't know where her yogurt pot is but knows she didn't eat it, couldn't manage the squeezy fruit lid. So she had water and sandwhich the size of a playing card.
SHe had 2 innocent smoothies when she got in without pausing for breath.
Do you think I should say something if this is the norm?

So am a bit at that. SHe has shosen school dinners tomorrow which I think will prove more accessable.

I think she was hoping for more desks and sums ans so on

She was amazed that she went to the toilet on her own [they went in 3-4's regulary at playschool] so that impressed her. she was impressed that yr1 shared a playground but was amazed that she couldn't tell the difference. Turns out yr1 aren't much bigger than her!!!

She had fish and chips for tea and was asleep for 7 again. Bless.

newspaperdelivery · 15/09/2009 21:05

Apologies for typos!!

roundabout1 · 15/09/2009 21:19

newspaper - sounds like she had a good day, my dd is stuggling with packed lunch, they don't seem to get much help at all

golgi - sounds like he had a good day

I thought my dd had a better day today, I left her in tears & she cried at lunchtime. She said tonight she's be happy at lunchtime if the teachers or ta's were there, may take a while to get used to the dinner ladies as she doesn't see them much. She got told she couldn't go & play with the others til she's eaten more of her packed lunch. Have promised to give her less tomorrow, I thought I'd gove lots of little things as then she's eat soemthing but she hardly ate anything, had a tiny bit of her drink & had some milk at morning break but no fruit. She didn;t drink anything else all day & as a result didn;t need the toilet. Think she may be deliberately drinking less so she doesn't need to go so often which isn't very healthy. Tonight in bed she got so upset, big gulping sobs saying that no-one would play with her, & she even asked some girls in her class & they said no & she doesn't know why no-one likes her. I was in very badly hidden tears at this point, to feel so unpopular so young is just heartbreaking. According to dd she held hands with the teachers at break time & they tried to get someone to play with her but no-one wanted to. At lunchtime a girl she vaguely knows in yr 1 took her off to play but apparently dd cried cos she couldn't do want they were doing as she's so much younger & smaller. Please please tell me this will get easier I've been feeling stressed about this all day

Aranea · 15/09/2009 21:23

Oh roundabout how awful. I would be in pieces too. Do you think it's worth having a chat with the teacher or TA? Sounds like she needs a bit more help and support than she's getting.

golgi · 15/09/2009 21:42

Roundabout - might be worth a chat with the teacher just to put your mind at rest. I'm sure they can organise some "big children" to look after her for a bit.

I like the idea somebody mentioned a few pages back of a part of the playground where children can go if they've got nobody to play with.

This has been one of my worries but it does seem a bit easier with boys, they just seem to chase each other around the playground in one big pack.

Newspaper - boy doesn't eat his sandwiches at school much, either. He'll eat loads at home when there's a bit more time, I think the school lunch is just a bit rushed generally as they want to get out and play. Reception children probably need a helper each and a spare hour!

newspaperdelivery · 15/09/2009 21:45

Oh roundabout. It will, it will for sure.

Maybe after a little while you could invite some gir;s for a playdate? To help them all gel? Another little one will find her and they will be friends.

Def talk to teacher.

moodlumthehoodlum · 15/09/2009 22:33

Poor you roundabout, and poor your dd. Deffo have a word with teachers and TAs, and also, try and find out about which staff are on duty in the playground at lunchbreak. You may find that they are other mums (as at DD's school), and you can approach them and ask them to hold dd's hand as they walk around. If its any consolation dd walked round with her TA for most of her lunchbreaks last year, as she just hated the busy playground, but also because I think she just liked doing that. So, it will get easier, DD is fine there now, and your dd will be fine too.

Mini moodlum has had a better day, thanks. I had a meeting at school (they are one of my clients (actually my only one )) after lunch so I secretly spied on him playing and although he wasn't playing with anyone, he looked to be having a good time. And, they have said he is obviously so tired, that I can pick him up at lunchtimes on Friday until half term. Yay. Friday snoozes on the sofa! So feeling a bit better about it all. Am going to the dreaded PTA welcome coffee morning tomorrow god help me.

Acinonyx · 15/09/2009 22:51

Oh roundabout That is heartbreaking. I do hope things improve soon.

Dd is very jolly about school but wets herself every day still I am trying to gently but firmly impress on her that it would be much better to avoid this.

I have been hoping that dd would start getting to bed easier and we do seem to be getting back toward an 8 pm bedtime thank goodness.

They started phonics this week - but not writing the letters yet.

teafortwo · 16/09/2009 09:05

Roundabout1 - I feel this is definately just a stage, she will get through it anyway, but I would pop to see the teacher when you pick her up to hatch a plan for moving onto a happier stage as fast as possible. Inviting friends round is a good idea. The teacher being aware is good too. She can do subtle things like asking a few children while getting lunchboxes - "Who are you going to play with at lunchtime" so children can organise themselves a bit better too. "I dunno" "Well Charlie doesn't know either why don't you two play together?" - they toter off hand in hand and all is sorted fo rtha playime!

My DD is going through a bossy and not very careful stage. I think she is trying so hard to be a careful and a really good girl in school she gets a bit carried away the other way when she gets home... She was sent to her room twice in one evening while I chanted...

It is just a stage
It is just a stage
It is just a stage

To DH and for my own benefit too!

roundabout1 · 16/09/2009 10:28

Thank you everyone, well dd was very cheerful this morning until it came to getting dressed & then she started getting upset about playtime. When it's structured she's fine although still painfully shy it's when they go into the playground. I suppose the fact that she's so upbeat must mean she's enjoying lots about school. Anyway she wanted dp to come with us to school, I told her that both of us couldn't take her but thatdp could take her today. I was desparately trying to avoid embarassing myself by being upset. Anyway dp had a word with the teacher about dd being worried about having no playmates & teacher said the problem was that dd was too quiet & wanted to follow the staff around all the time. Dp wasn't very impressed by the response & said that she is popular & comes out her shell in smaller groups, teacher said she's try to sort it. This response has worried me a bit, I do have to take it with a pinch of salt as I wasn't there but surely it's a common problem childrens being left out, it seems their response was saying it was dd's fault. So now I'm an emotional wreck agaon, I had an early miscarriage 2 weeks ago & thought emotionally I was fine, wondering if I'm such a mess over this because everything has just built up iykwim.

moodlumthehoodlum · 16/09/2009 11:04

Oh Roundabout I am on your behalf. That is a useless response from the teacher. Surely its the teachers job to bring children gently out of their shell so that they have the confidence to play with their peers? And given the posts on here, that's a pretty common problem.

Don't be too hard on yourself about being an emotional wreck - its a tricky enough time without having just gone through a miscarriage. I would be quite forward with the teacher, and perhaps ask for some names of children who might be good with dd, identify their mothers, and try and get them round for tea/play. Everyone understands how difficult these things are to start off with, and I'm sure everyone will be keen to do a playdate. At least then you might feel that you are doing something constructive about it all, which would help you feel better maybe?