school overstepping ?

[cax]

So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

But you have been kept in the loop? The fact you know it’s taking place must mean that either the school or nursery have told you, otherwise how else did you find out?

Hi Please can anyone help me with this situation I recently moved to West London and I didn’t get a seat near my house and it’s on waiting list 1 and the council offered me a different school which I need to use a public transport to get there every morning and afternoon to pick up and he’s athamatic and I’m a single mum I’m struggling to handle this situation. I told the council I’m unable to accept it and they said you can do home schooling until I get this waitlist sorted in this scenario do I wait or do I need to appeal I really don’t want to get into all this hassles as I’m full time working I have to take care of my child all by myself. Please advise thank you and would it help if I ask the school?

So who told you then?

You're going to be one of those parents the staff hide from aren't you 😂

My daughters is going to secondary school in September. Staff from her new school called to her primary school unknown to me last week to have a little chat. I think it’s brilliant and thoughtful and helps with the transition.

My kids are older, 13 and 19, but I have never heard of this. In our area kids visit the school they will go to not the other way around. i'm surprised teachers have the time to do this!

You are completely overreacting. It’s good practice to see new pupils in their current setting and talk to staff about their learning. I’m really surprised your nursery didn’t tell you this. You should be delighted School are visiting.

It's completely normal practice.

In the US, our children go to our local school. There is no catchment area or enrollment limits. The most I have ever experienced, or had friends experience is if there are multiple schools with the same grades, in the same city/town, you go to the one that is your area school.
My kids also had a day or two where they could go to the school, meet the teacher, principal, other staff members, tour the school and get a feel for it all. Perhaps the UK schools do not have that.

I think it's nice that the teacher's go to the nursery and meet with the children and would not feel the need to be told beforehand.

25% of pupils here (in a nice area of the uk) have social emotional needs. Some family set ups are less than ideal and schools are expected to safeguard dc. Your post is either very naive or ignorant to the challenges teachers face. more dc than ever start school not being able to toilet themselves or use cutlery etc. of course teachers need to establish what support dc will need. Home visits also provide a safeguarding check. Too many dc fall through the cracks and every opportunity to identify at risk dc is important.

Honestly the amount of these parents is unreal. Absolute fuss pots.
My worst one at the moment tells me at the door every single day that her daughter is really struggling with horrendous, terrible hayfever and to phone her if there are any problems. Every single day. I've never even heard the kid sneeze.

OP - it's really not a big deal. Across our eyfs there are approx 50 new nursery and reception children starting in September.
The staff do a mixture of home visits and nursery setting visits depending on where the child is day to day.
They cannot be faffing about writing letters and emails to every parent. Of course a home visit will require some planning and arranging mutually convenient times, but otherwise the teacher will visit each nursery and observe whatever number of children in their new cohort that go there. And there may be several nurseries plus homes to get around in a limited amount of time.

@LondonFox

What involvement?
Put a group of 20 five year olds together to sit, do craft, get ushered to lunch and back and sit some more and sing a song?

If anything I would not want school involved in my childs life beyond providing education, a facility to play with friends and a free childcare.
Parents are perfectly capable caring for their children outside the 9-3 and do not need that much school involvements.

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That's all well and good for you.

What about parents with social and emotional, or mental health needs.

What about children who are abused or neglected.

Not all parents are 'perfectly capable' and staff need to be aware of who isn't so they know where to direct more support to the child.

OP

There must have been some communication between you, the school and the nursery, otherwise how would the teacher know which nursery to go to and which child they were seeing.

OP, kindly, you are overreacting. I wouldn't even consider this to be a complaint. In fact, I'd be very glad my child's school and nursery were helping her with her transition. In fact, this happened to my DD two years ago, and she was delighted, as was I. Please don't be "that parent."

Is this a Montessori school by any chance OP? @cax

Why would if be a Montessori school? This is standard in most UK State schools.

Oh dear… you’re going to have a fit of the vapours once your Dd starts school I feel.

The school will visit the pre school setting to discuss any issues about the children that will be attending their school in September. It’s an important part of transition. I’d be more upset if this didn’t happen!

Utterly bonkers reaction OP!

Surely, by now, reading the replies on your thread, you can see how ridiculous your reaction is?

We know the reasons, the reasons are fine. The point is if anyone is visiting/assessing our kids in whatever capacity then we as parents should be informed. You'd really think this would be obvious .

I doubt she'll have a 'fit of the vapours' once her dd starts school because then the dc will actually be in the care of the school. At the moment they are not.

@Janiie and the children were in the care of the nursery when the teacher visited. Much of this visit would be taken up with talking to the other adults in the room.

It’s not like the teacher took all the kids out of the nursery

Also teachers from other schools will have visited to discuss the children going into their school. Would you have a problem with that?

@Janiie what about when school governors visit the school, would you want to know in advance whether the governor might have a quick chat with your DC?

The point is if anyone is visiting/assessing our kids in whatever capacity then we as parents should be informed. You'd really think this would be obvious .

So you want to be informed every time a volunteer comes in to hear your child read?

The point is if anyone is visiting/assessing our kids in whatever capacity then we as parents should be informed. You'd really think this would be obvious .

That's not how it works though. The nursery and school don't need to inform parents everytime someone is visiting the building who might speak to your child. Everything from volunteers listening to readers, staff being interviewed, general visitors, DOE students, work experience kids, PTA members, governors and supply staff for starters... The list is never ending.

Do you expect to be informed every time your child's teacher is off sick and a supply teacher comes in, whenever there is a monitoring visit to the classroom by another teacher or Senco, whenever a teacher applying for a job does a trial lesson with your child's class, whenever there's a visiting teacher from another school coming to compare practices, whenever the school's link inspector comes in, whenever there is a volunteer parent helping out in class? Any or all of those is visiting your child and may be assessing her, and you're going to be be pretty busy getting if you do expect to be told. What would you do with the information when you are given it?

No because as I've just said by then the dc would be in the care of the school. At the moment they are not.

It'd be like a health visitor or gp just popping along to the private nursery to see how your dc is. No they wouldn't would they because parental consent and notification should be a priority.

No bevausd as ibe just said by then the dc would be in the care of the school. At the moment they are not.

You do realise nurseries also have supply staff, monitoring visits by other staff / management, people applying for jobs who may have to deliver an activity which includes your child and so on. It's not just something that happens in school.