school overstepping ?

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So my daughter is due to start reception in September, she is currently at private nursery. I have just found out that the school have arranged for someone from the school to visit my child at her nursery, i have not had the school she will be attending call or email me to ask if this is ok and the nursery have not contacted me to ask if this would be ok there end etc…. i’m feeling a little irritated that i have not been informed or asked if this was ok, of course it would have been if i had been asked as i understand why they do this, but to not even be in the loop of what is happening with my child has left me a little upset and i want to make a complaint but first want to make sure i’m not overreacting to the situation, any thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

Why would I?
It's not like I am paid to produce peer reviewed and edited content on MN lol

This is really normal. Presumably you filled in a form giving the information of what nursery your child is it?

Good grief.

these visits are entirely normal, and you're being exceptionally weird. You need to take a breath and back up.

How odd to have another thread about this. No, it's not overstepping. They're talking to their key worker about what the child is like at nursery, and then observing and interacting with them in a space away from you. Much like how it will be at school 9-3 (or variants thereof), 5 days a week, for 38 weeks of the year.

My own DD is also heading to primary school this September. I knew the nursery visit was going to happen, as it was a single line in the parent information pack. Her teacher also mentioned it at the home visit. As for when it happened, we only found out about it afterwards. It was a good thing, as with us at the home visit, DD was shy virtually to the point of muteness. While at the nursery visit she was extremely chatty, and much more like herself. It's been so good for her to have actually met her teacher in her safe places ahead of time, rather than for the very first time in September, in a brand new environment to boot.

You need to get a grip. This is normal.

It's a normal process, and whilst I understand where you're coming from, it's not an issue and it helps bring more familiarity/ease at meeting their teacher again. What do you hope to gain if you complain? Who are you going to complain to?

I doubt they manage to tell all the parents as I doubt the nursery keep a list of exactly which school all the school-leavers are going to.

Teachers are so busy and have numerous nurseries and home visits to make before the children start school.

It's most likely that the teacher arranges to visit the nursery at short notice then talks to the children that will be attended that school.

My eldest starts secondary in September. He only recently told me that a teacher from his new school came to speak to the children that will be attended, this happened a month ago. Neither the primary or secondary school informed us of the upcoming visit or that it had happened.

At school they have a number of guests and speakers that attend assemblies, of which about 30% we are told of, and usually only informed via the newsletter if you actually read it. I'm sorry but I think you might get a shock when your child starts school.

Going against the grain here but I've never heard of this and think its quite odd and intrusive (I'm in Scotland). OP, you have every right to know who is visiting and assessing your child especially since they are still in the care of the nursery and not pupils at the school yet they should have your consent. .

You are being ridiculous. Neither school or nursery have time to inform each parent about when each teacher will be meeting their child.
My DS is one of 30 children leaving nursery this summer. He is the only one going to his new school. There are probably at least 10 schools children are going to, there just isn't time to get in touch with each parent about this.
I have a feeling school might be tough for you as their general motto seems to be: no news is good news.
And there will be visitors in the school interacting with your child and you won't know anything about that in advance either.

Would you prefer that your child started school with her teacher knowing nothing about her? A teacher who suddenly had upwards of 20 children arrive in her classroom and has absolutely no information about their needs or abilities?

Of course the teacher visits their pre-school settings, so she's ready to work with them appropriately and sensitively on their scary first day.

I think it's a lovely gesture of the school to attend nursery. It's been done to help ease the transition and make it easier for her when she starts school.
I'm struggling to understand why you think that's a bad thing and making it about your feelings?
It really is a process to help her.

It is totally normal. We were told about it by the nursery too I believe. They may have a few kids to visit. I really don’t get the complaint with helping your child ease into reception?! It’s not like you’ll be there in the classroom with them in September is it.

@Areolaborealis as a teacher in Scotland for many years I can assure you this has been happening here for years.

I remember my oldest DDs preschool having a notice board with what schools the children were attending and the days teachers were visiting. I remember it because my DDs school weren’t visiting her as we lived out of area at the time.

You are being unreasonable.

I can't see why the parent isn't told. Seems off to me, and a little dismissive, common or not.

A report from nursery and communication with parents would be the place to start if there were any issues to work through.

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But you do know about it?

Of course you will be informed about what your child does in school.

Much of the information will apply to all the children ie curriculum information, PE day is Thursday, tomorrow we are going for a walk to the post box to post letters, we will be talking about when we were babies, please send in a picture etc. this will come via the school website, class WhatsApp,

Some of it will apply specifically to your child, she bumped her head, she didn’t get to the toilet in time and needed to be changed, she threw up , she was a bit upset because she had a falling out with her friend, sorry about the paint in her hair . This will be relayed to you directly , usually at pick up, or sometimes a phone call.

There will be time to discuss your childs progress at parent teacher interviews, you will get a written report annually. You will not get daily feedback about what your child has done. If you are very concerned about an issue then it is absolutely fine to ask for a discussion, but this will be the exception, not the norm, unless your child is presenting with specific needs.

A rule of thumb is no news is good news, the teacher asking for a quick word after school is usually because of something they need to flag up with you.

There will not be the detailed weekly or daily information that a nursery provides, so please don’t expect it, or ask for it. The observations the teachers and the TAs make, and they will be making them, are not generally shared directly with parents but are used to build up a portfolio of evidence to chart your child’s academic and social progress.

Actually talking to the nursery staff is far more useful. And a lot easier for the nursery staff than demanding that they sit down and write a time consuming report that's as informative as the chat would be. About every child they have that's starting school.

I kinda agree with you OP, in the sense that I’d expect the nursery to give parents a brief overview of what’s coming up.

For example, my granddaughter’s nursery sends a little email every week about what the plans are for the next week. I’d expect a visit from school to be included in that.

When my granddaughter went to visit her new school, her key worker sent a message about what she’d done, who’d she spoken to etc. It was lovely as mum and dad knew what to chat to her about.

I don’t think it’s the school’s responsibility to have let you know.

ETA I don’t agree that the school have overstepped, but I do think it’s reasonable that you expect to know about it (amongst what else was going on)

OP this is a totally normal thing to happen (did you get that message from the multitude of PPs?) but I can totally see why you're questioning why you weren't informed. They did this with my DC last year and I loved that they were getting to know her before she started - but they told me it was going to be happening, and the nursery staff told me too. They seemed quite excited they were getting a visit to be honest! I'm not sure a complaint is the right way to go though, I think this is just one of those things. I'm sorry it's put a bad taste in your mouth, try not to let it colour your opinion of the school in general

God. The teachers are gonna love you!

Put in a complaint over this.

It will give them the heads up about That Parent before your child even starts!

Not if you live in Liverpool you don’t - didn’t get one with either of mine, although my nieces in Sheffield did.

Totally normal. Usually they like to see the child in their own setting, meet their current key worker etc. Helps their teacher get to know you child a little bit in a more 'school like' setting.

Give it another 5 years and you'll be sick and tired of the constant notifications and emails coming from the school admin office. Bless them, they are all very informative but the shear amount is irritating. So, for now, be pleased that school are just chugging away without you needing to pay £1, find an item of clothing in teal, follow all the packed lunch rules and bake something for the PTA.

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