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Disastrous first day at pre prep!

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user1479588581 · 06/09/2021 22:55

Help!

We dropped our son off on his first day at pre prep today. When I picked him up his teacher said he hadn’t really listened, she was concerned he’d not understood instructions, he didn’t interact with any of the other children, she had to explain the rules of the game they were playing several times as “he just didn’t get it”… and my personal favourite she “wasn’t expecting to spend so much 1:1 with him”. She said this all seconds after telling everyone else how marvellous their children had been and then effectively patronised me for 10 minutes about my sons behaviour well within ear shot with the other parents still milling about. He’s in a class of 13, her leading with an assistant, nine of which we found out today are all girls, only 4 are boys…

She asked if his preschool had ever mentioned anything similar and I said yes, but he’d have days like this and then days where he was great because he’s only FOUR AND A HALF! I asked her if she had read the assessment the preschool had sent and she said she’d “skimmed over it”.

He’s been in childcare since he was 14 months, he was in preschool prior to joining and had attended two assessments to join this place. He’s always been slow to reach developmental milestones but he’s got there eventually none the less. All the other kids are clearly more advanced then him, we realised this helpfully at drop off (due to Covid no settle days etc). We obviously didn’t realise quite how behind he was we couldn’t go into the preschool and the assessments always said he’d reached the requirements. We’ve been paying privately for speech therapy once a week and she said he’s up to standard but after today I feel so deflated. I sobbed all the way home in the car and now both my husband and I are thinking about moving schools over it. I don’t want to be constantly worrying that my son is bottom of the class in their eyes!

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MargaretThursday · 07/09/2021 21:26

she said most kids spend all day bawling clinging to her knee
That's odd because in 3 dc I can only think of one child who was anything near to that in any of their forms.

I think you're upset at the moment and I would just let it settle.
For a start of, you may have felt it was in front of everyone, but actually everyone else was concentrating on their own dc and no one even noticed anything other than you talking. I've certainly had a parent say to me that something was said in front of "all the parents" and I've thought "I was there, and I didn't notice". But it feels like that.

It may be that she's intolerant, hates boys, and didn't try with your ds to reassure him.

Or it could be that actually he is deviating from the normal to a point she's noticing. She's probably dealt with lots of 4 year olds on the first day of school. If he's the first who totally didn't get the rules of the game, then it MAY be a concern. That could be hearing, listening, immaturity or a whole wealth of different issues which vary from no longer an issue by half term to needing interventions.

The comment she wasn't expecting to spend so much 1-2-1 time can be read as he was so independent and keen to get on at the assessment days that she was concerned that he hadn't today-she may have been fishing to see if there was a reason why he may be behaving differently.
But that also implies that she has spent time with him, maybe you think unnecessary, but maybe trying to help and is concerned that he's not responding.

It is hard to hear that your dc is behaving differently (I've had it) but sometimes while you're heart is breaking for them, you also find some way that you need to hear to help your dc. Looking back (mine are older) I wish I'd spent more time listening and acting on it rather than feeling that it was too early to really make a decision.

Evesgarden · 07/09/2021 21:46

You will struggle to get a refund OP as you have signed a contract.

Book in for a meeting to discuss what happened today. I am am sure you will get an apology for how it was handled and plan of some sort going forward.

Pixie2015 · 07/09/2021 22:03

The same happened to us last year - absolutely heartbreaking you will get the feel soon if they want you out. We got all our money refunded and huge wait lifted off our mind. Went to the state system and have not looked back. Hope it settles down for you all xxx

ghislaine · 08/09/2021 15:31

I would say yes, because I had a nearly identical experience to LondonWriter and my son was also "required to be removed" . Turns out he also has some SEN. Some schools simply do not wish to put in the extra effort needed to meet their needs and some teachers lack compassion.

MrsScrubbithatescleaning · 08/09/2021 15:42

No-one ever said anything overly critical about my DS to my face but I could see for myself he was struggling with school at 4.5yrs. He just wasn't ready for it.

I took him out and we spent the Spring and summer doing family stuff including moving house. He started again at a new school when he was 5+ and the difference was startling.

He's 12 now and was independently tested and recommended to attend a gifted and talented programme when he was 9.

Maybe your little boy just isn't ready yet?

underneaththeash · 08/09/2021 21:10

That's not a good male/female ratio. I'd go and see some other options,

CatMandarin · 09/09/2021 14:32

Hope today goes better op. I don't blame you for being annoyed at how the teacher dealt with you. If you end up taking him out I hope you find a lovely place for him as he deserves.

Secretroses · 09/09/2021 21:49

Hope things have improved as the week has gone on. Doesn't sound like the teacher handled things very well at all...

DocAutumn · 09/09/2021 21:55

It was his first day. He may need time to settle. They should not be judging his abilities by how he 'performs' on his first day.

RAOK · 09/09/2021 22:22

I think they’ve decided that your son is not the right kind of pupil for their school but like you said why did they accept him after two rounds of assessment? You will not get a refund. They best you could hope for is to have a meeting with the Head next week and explain that you feel a mistake has been made on both sides (you got choosing this school for your son and them for offering him a place) and can you be released from your contract at Christmas instead of Easter. If they’re struggling for numbers, they’ll try and convince you to stay and if they’ve got a waiting list they won’t be bothered about your concerns from previous experience.

Lily7050 · 10/09/2021 10:01

Sorry about your experience, OP.
Would you mind me asking if, it is a small school in Chelsea?
The class description sounded very much like the school we visited this week.

user1479588581 · 12/09/2021 19:47

Hi,

I wanted to give an update.

The negativity continued, the comments were as follows:

Monday - He doesn't listen, he doesn't take instruction, I'm not sure it goes in fully (taps side of head), i had to spend so much 1:1 with him that I wasnt expecting, didnt know name of Preschool he attended despite having a class of only 13, majority of which had come up from their own preschool. Veiled threat of "i need the week with him before making a decision"

Tuesday - I had to sit 1-1 with him alot during swimming, he walked past the fountain and asked if it was the swimming pool (rolls eyes and smirks), he insisted with get into a box earlier (again rolls eyes and smirks), he kept getting up from his chair in the end we just let him get on with it...another "i need more time before making my decision"

Wednesday - Husband dropped him off as I was close to panic attack levels by this point. She asked if he'd had any friends at his last preschool (he'd formed at least 3-4 strong friendships with boys there, but he had a choice from at least 13 boys compared to the 3 far more developed boys in his class). My husband replied coldly "Its been two days". I didn't bother speaking with her at pick up.

Thursday - Drop off, son was very hesitant to go into the room, kept pulling his head into my leg, she kept asking him "can you get your water bottle out of your bag and put it on the side" after the 4th time of asking I bent down and softly said "shall we see if we can find this bottle" to which she snapped at me aggressively "no, no NO he must learn to do this for himself". To which he promptly burst into tears. He knows exactly how to do it for himself hes good at following instruction at home, but when he's not even sure he wants to go into your classroom lady he sure as heck isn't going to be getting his waterbottle out..read the room ffs! Avoided contact at pick up.

Friday - Met with Head of Pre Prep, we saw her sitting down with him just before we went in. Explained our concerns, primarily the boy to girl ratio, secondly the development gap and the negativity from teacher. He suggested SEN and apoligised on her behalf. At pick up she made zero attempt at being nice, straight away it was "childs name, has had an accident today". I then asked for his school blazer and she said are you sure you dont want to keep it for next week and I said no, i need to have it at home, at that point she knew and very coldly gave it to me and walked out of the classroom without a goodbye, it was like dealing with a 17 year old in high school not a supposedly experienced teacher at a reputable pre prep. That afternoon i unpacked his schoolbag and she'd put his clothes in there covered in unmentionable in a nappy bag, not even bothered to rinse out. He very rarely has accidents now so I knew that he wasnt happy. I don't think I'll ever forget his face, when I went to pick him up on Friday morning, being made to sit at a desk, looking ashen, when I arrived she tapped his head and said you can go now mummy is here.

We wrote a written withdrawal friday afternoon and have him starting at my old prep school next week.

I am still totally flummoxed at her behavior.

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simonisnotme · 12/09/2021 20:02

well done OP
Your poor lad doesn't deserve that kind of shitty pre prep
I pity the rest of the kids having to put up with a teacher like that, kids need nurturing not that attitude she should be banned from teaching

purpleme12 · 12/09/2021 20:10

Brilliant I'm glad you've done this
I would put a complaint in about the teacher actually in the hope something would change in the future
Or at least specifically write in detailing everything that happened and that's why you've moved

Secretroses · 12/09/2021 20:17

Good for you. She sounds very toxic and I'm so pleased you have taken him out. Wishing your little one all the best at his new school xx

Goldbar · 12/09/2021 20:18

I'm so sorry that your little boy has had such a traumatic start to his school life. I'd definitely make a complaint to the school.

I hope he settles in well at the new school...please keep us updated as to how he is doing.

throttlebottom · 12/09/2021 20:18

Good for you! Your DS is not failing - and you are NOT failing him. It is the school that are failing the children in their care. I would also complain formally.

minipie · 12/09/2021 20:43

Well done OP. What an utterly appalling teacher. Please do put everything you’ve said here in a letter to the Head so that hopefully no other child has to have this as their experience of starting school.

Hope he has a lovely time at his new school.

AirEngland · 12/09/2021 20:52

What an awful experience for you all and what a horrible teacher! Well done for sorting it out so swiftly. I hope all goes well on Monday.
I agree I’d definitely be sending in very detailed reasons for why you felt the need to leave. I’m shocked by this teacher. She obviously knows nothing about children!

CloudsandTeacups · 12/09/2021 21:19

What a traumatic week for you all. I am so glad you were able to find another place. Will be thinking of you tomorrow. Hoping it's a much more positive experience. I do hope you'll take the time to update us.

Pixie2015 · 12/09/2021 21:28

So pleased he is out of there hope it goes well this week x

fallfallfall · 12/09/2021 21:33

that was heartbreaking to read.
what a horrible horrible week.

ItsNotMeAnymore · 12/09/2021 21:47

Wow that’s awful. That teacher sounds incompetent and nasty.

Themorethemerrier · 12/09/2021 22:05

I’m really sorry this has all gone on Op. it’s sounds dreadful. But, as someone who lives very much in the world of SEN I think you’ve written enough about your boy to suggest that there is a possibility of SEN.

It could be that the teacher you came across last week noticed something because she was observing him him with a fresh eye so to speak unlike his previous teachers who were used to him. Granted she sound really awful but I think it was how she said things rather than what she said.

Please don’t dismiss people’s comments going forward as it won’t do your boy any good if he does eventually need to be seen with a view to a diagnosis.

mynamechangemyrules · 12/09/2021 22:26

Eeuurrghh she sounds truly awful OP and whether there are or are not different needs at play, she should have attempted to support him and then worked with you positively to help him progress, just awful.

However, I'm not sure moving him to another prep school is the solution really. I've taught in Early Years/ across primary in prep schools in the capital, Home Counties and across the world, as well as state schools, and I send my children to state schools as a conscious choice. Private school provision relies heavily on the quality of the individual teacher and it sounds like your poor son has come up against a crap one.

Hope he gets on better at the next school, but if he does need extra support of any kind, leave the prep school system ASAP!