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LGBT being taught to 5 year olds?

146 replies

JJ2018 · 09/04/2019 01:37

I have a question on this, can a parent ask their child to be removed from the class when this is being taught?

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MidniteScribbler · 09/04/2019 03:01

Why would you?

Alicewond · 09/04/2019 03:05

Why would you want to, no matter your beliefs this is a current topic and no doubt will become more relevant as your child grows. Do you wish them to remain ignorant?

Peopleshouldread · 09/04/2019 03:14

Another with a why do you see this as a problem?
Are you religious?
Children need to know that there are many different kinds of people in the world. And the earlier they understand this, the less likely they are to pick up bigoted opinions.
I fail to see the problem.

GinZing · 09/04/2019 03:35

Yes you can take your child out of class if you arrange it. What exactly are they teaching your 5 year old about LGBT?

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Goldendust · 09/04/2019 03:58

All I'm saying yes there is a awareness and we should treat everyone with respect but there's not need to teach such Young innocent minds such things they don't need.

AutumnCrow · 09/04/2019 04:00

I think the issue would be vastly helped if the Government were to publicise, clearly and accurately, the content of the actual lessons that the five year olds will have.

So, what will be covered in the themes of biology, sex, feelings, relationships, and each part of L, B, G and T? Who designed the lessons? Who was paid to do so - are there any potential conflicts of interest looming? Are the lessons equally compulsory in the local authority state sector, the academy state sector, the state faith sector, and the private sector?

I think that would help.

Alicewond · 09/04/2019 04:08

Are you people honestly saying kids will think, sure I want to be LGBT so I can grow up with the likes of you frowning down upon me, why that seems like fun! Education is important to make whatever anyone feels acceptable, and for anyone around them to understand

SleepingSloth · 09/04/2019 04:31

A better way would be to communicate with the school and ask what will be taught if you want to. You will be pleasantly surprised despite the scare stories you read on hear about it being promoted. My daughter is 10, they recently had lessons on what makes a family, the fact that some children have mum and dad, single parents, 2 mums, 2 dads. It was about respect and love in a family and for other people.

Seniorschoolmum · 09/04/2019 04:31

why don't you ask to see the material rather than withdrawing your child?
At 5, they will only be teaching that some families have a mum & a dad or two mums or two dads. Which is true so why would you want to pretend it isn't so.

MonteStory · 09/04/2019 09:29

This stuff is disturbing.
Which part of the lessons that you have observed did you find disturbing?

No offence
Your post is extremely offensive. You either need to own your offensive view or stop airing them.

but it sounds like it's being promoted more. How do you promote a sexuality that people have no choice over?

When I was back in school it was noticed and ok
It really wasn’t and still isn’t. Assuming you are an adult and therefore left primary at least ten years ago, there is not a chance LGBT people were talked about without it being a ‘thing’. State education is still a long long way off being an equal place for LGBT people.

but this is going to make children question and doubt what they really feel. Like LGBT people have always done then?

Watch now there will be more different people in the future who wouldn't have been this way if this wasn't being promoted the way it is. young people who previously wouldn’t have felt accepted, will now feel accepted. How terrible.

If it were down to ‘promotion’ then nobody would be LGBT given that being straight is ‘promoted’ in tv programs, books, pictures, religions etc since the beginning of civilisation.

Your post is idiotic.

MonteStory · 09/04/2019 09:31

Oh and to the op - no you can’t withdraw from every mention of LGBT. Accept state education or don’t, it’s not pick and mix.

ForeverbyJudyBlume · 09/04/2019 09:35

I learned variously about glaciers, Tudor monarchs and the island of Fernando Po at school. It didn't make me want to become any of those things. Learning about LGBT would not have made me LGBT but it would have given me greater understanding of the boys and girls in my school who were LGBT and compelled to hide it.

Babdoc · 09/04/2019 09:37

If the school are teaching that humans can change sex, and that children should all conform to dated gender stereotypes otherwise they are “transgender” and should be put on drugs to sterilise them prior to mutilating surgery, then OP is being perfectly reasonable to withdraw her child from the trans brainwashing.
If the school are simply teaching tolerance for gay people, then there’s no problem.
OP, you need to speak to the school and ask what is on the syllabus, and whether Stonewall or Mermaids had any involvement in the teaching materials to be used.

Dippitydoodle · 09/04/2019 09:40

You need to find out what is being taught before you remove your child from lessons, what do u object to specifically?

Surely at 5 they won't be taught much more than the fact that people can be attracted to and have relationships with anyone they choose... whether they're the same gender as themselves or not.

Your childs sexuality won't be influenced by a lesson they had at 5years old BUT it will go towards educating them that it's the norm.

S1naidSucks · 09/04/2019 09:42

I completely agree, Babdoc. I would have absolutely no problem with my child learning about LGB, but the T and the fake narrative of being able to change sex, is brainwashing and gaslighting. I wouldn’t want my children being taught fake science.

SleepingSloth · 09/04/2019 09:46

I would have absolutely no problem with my child learning about LGB, but the T and the fake narrative of being able to change sex, is brainwashing and gaslighting. I wouldn’t want my children being taught fake science.

Are there any schools saying you can change sex? I keep hearing this, seeing links to lesson plans etc but I am yet to hear a confirmed case where this has been taught in a school.

I have one child at primary, one at secondary and it's not been taught.

SarahTancredi · 09/04/2019 09:46

I'd ask what they are being taught.

How different families are made up- fine

Drag wheels named popping cherry telling your kid that boys who like dolls are really girls. Shove over and be kind girls.- not fine.

SarahTancredi · 09/04/2019 09:47

Drag queens

Stupid auto correct

DippyAvocado · 09/04/2019 09:49

SRE (Sex and Relationships Education) is not currently statutory but it is due to become so which means parents won't be able to withdraw pupils.

I haven't seen the new curriculum but rest assured it is highly unlikely that transgenderism will be even mentioned until Upper KS2 at the earliest. Relationships education for KS1 is about nurturing good relationships with others and accepting differences in general. Wait to see the new curriculum and how the school approaches it before rushing in to complain.

Moominfan · 09/04/2019 09:53

Op I'd want to know exactly what was being taught. No issue with the lgb stuff but if someone told my little boy he could be a girl cause he felt like one I'd be unhappy. Gender is steeped in sexism

WeepingWillowWeepingWino · 09/04/2019 09:55

I have no issue with the LGB and massive issues with the T (which is teaching children that gender stereotypes are real and lying to them) so I would want to know the exact content and if I felt the T was doing those exact things I would withdraw DD.

Yet another reason why the T needs to be separate from the LGB - it's not a sexuality, for a start!

ACurlyWurly · 09/04/2019 09:56

I wish they taught my DS this in school and told him it was ok when he was 5 ! I am gay and he suffered so much bullying from other kids who didn't understand and whos parents thought it was wrong to talk to them about it.
It's not like they are showing them gay porn and telling them all to go out and give it a go! They are teaching tolerance of different families.
Ask for a copy of the lesson plans or some resources from the school and then you will be able to make an informed decision on the value of a lesson.

It is not a choice, no one would actively choose to lead a life where they are bullied, abused, have limited travel choices, limited parenting options and are pushed out of their circle of family and friends.

A little more tolerance and understanding will make this world a much nicer place.

SarahTancredi · 09/04/2019 09:57

Forgot to mention op

If stonewall are behind the resources then run for the hills.

Stone wall have changed the definition of homosexuality to mean same gender attracted. So even their training in LGB Is fucked up and basically homophobic

EnglishRose1320 · 09/04/2019 10:03

We have only ever removed our ds from sex ed due to his autism meaning he got completely overwhelmed, embarrassed and didn't really understand it. We chatted through all the topics with him at his level and got his t.a to do some 1:1 work on it. I would not have removed him otherwise and certainly won't remove his younger brother.
Learning about acceptance and tolerance can surely only be a good thing. Learning to love diversity and understand how families come in all shapes and sizes is presumably the level a 5 year old will be taught at.

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