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Primary School offered, not possible, how likely would an appeal be successful.

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LeeandEmma88 · 17/04/2016 21:52

Hello all,

We have read this forum many times but our situation has led to us feeling the need to create an account for advice.

This isn't the typical "We didn't get our preferred school, but it is a good school so can I appeal" post, so please bear with me whilst we explain.

My family has lived in the area of our preferred primary school now for 10 years, with us being located here for 5. The reason we moved to the area was solely for this primary school. We have had our Son's name on the school list since 2013 when he was approximately 10 months old, he is now 3 years and 8 months old and will be starting school this September 2016.

My wife and I work full time jobs and these jobs are unfortunately located out of the area, my wife working 1 hour from home and myself working 30 minutes away.
We also have a 9 month old baby who will be starting daycare in September of this year. This leads us to a bit of an issue, in regards to dropping off children.

It would not be possible for my wife to drop off our baby at daycare, our son at school and then travel to work. she has tried to go part time and drop morning hours but to drop off both and get to work is just too much, leaving her approx an hour late each day.
It is not possible for myself to drop hours as I am a manager at work and have several employees under my sole responsibility. I have to be at work when they are so to say.

This means we need assistance, which comes from my Mother. She is retired but does not drive, she lives on the same road as us meaning both the preferred school and our house are walking distance (she actually has to pass our house to get to the school).

Now we haven't been offered a place at either of our 2 local and preferred schools, which in normal circumstances I would just put it down to over-subscription and learn to live with it. But since January 2016 when the application process was closed my Father has taken ill in health meaning he requires full care which is provided by my Mother.

My wife's employer has agreed to shorten her hours on 2 days meaning she can drop off and collect (based on the thought we would have gotten our preferred school) leaving my Mother to drop off and collect the remaining 3 days of the school week. Now my mother doesn't drive as mentioned earlier so needs a school in walking distance (she cannot leave my Father for a length of time) this leaves two schools, both which were on our application. The 1st choice is 0.3 miles and takes 6 minutes to walk, the 2nd choice we had is 0.6 miles and takes 15 minutes to walk, now the offered choice which we didn't even know existed is 1.8 miles away and takes 45 minutes to walk (these times are one-way not round trips). The choice given would take 4 hours walking time per day to drop off and collect for my Mother, this is not even a possibility due to my Father's health.

We know the preferred school has 30 placements up for grabs and half of these have been filled with siblings, this leaves around 15 places to fill with other criteria. We live 0.3 miles away and can walk to the school within 6 minutes, not many people at all live closer than us, the reason we chose this address. Where do you lot think we would stand with an appeal taking all of the above into consideration?

We would be taking all my Father's medical history to any appeal, along with work contracts to show hours etc as we really feel we should have been offered a place at one of the 2 schools. We also have to take into account though, that the local council do not know of my Father's ill health as it has all happened 'after' the application process. We honestly thought luck would be well within our side as we live so close to the school (we can just about see it from our house) but this isn't the case obviously.

Any help or advice is appreciated.

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tiggytape · 19/04/2016 17:46

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MiniMover · 19/04/2016 17:46

Ha! I have just corrected bad English with worse English! Blush Grin

My brain is frazzling under school anxiety.

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HarveySchlumpfenburger · 19/04/2016 17:52

There could be someone in the opposite position, but it would be inadvisable to dump your place because of it. Dumping your place would free up a space for someone to move to and dump their original offer, but that wouldn't necessarily free up a place for you.

You might just end up without a place at all and the LA would have no requirement to find you another one.

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Witchend · 19/04/2016 17:56

Mini, in dd1's year going to secondary that happened and they asked the council if the could swap. They were told no, if they refused the place it had to go to no 1 on the waiting list.

MiniMover · 19/04/2016 17:56

Yes, of course being offered a school close by is better than the prospect of one across town. I know also that many people don't understand why I wouldn't want such a highly regarded school. All I can say is gut feeling and sometimes you know a school isn't right for you or your child.

MiniMover · 19/04/2016 18:04

Thanks, everyone. I realise I can't do s straight swap. And of course it would be a massive gamble that I doubt DH would agree to take. I guess I'm just thinking I'm I an unusual situation of holding a place at the school most other people want whilst wanting the less popular one where a large numbef of people in that at met would far rather my school. Unfortunately for us, as we're in an urban area with a notorious shortage then even the less popular schools are full and oversubscribed

shouldwestayorshouldwego · 19/04/2016 18:07

mini I can understand your position and have moved a dc for similar reason but in your position I would accept and go on waiting lists. There is often movement and although disruptive you should be able to move at a later stage. SATs aren't until yr 2, but hopefully you are discussing yr 6. That is a long time in the life of a school. Of the teachers at dd(yr6)'s school there are only two (both part time) who were there when she started in reception. All the SMT have changed too.

MiniMover · 19/04/2016 18:19

Wanted to add thanks to everyone for taking the time to help those of us who didn't get what we hoped for.

ProudAS · 19/04/2016 21:56

Accept the place Mini - it won't lessen your chances of getting into other schools.

smellyboot · 20/04/2016 07:59

Mini I totally feel for you. We avoided a school we would have been guaranteed a place at ( right criteria on faith/on doorstep) but we really didn't like it for the same reason. Formal, focused on Sats and results only and no sense of fun or creativity. Others fight to get in. People expected us to go there.
We had to put is as banker as 3rd choice. If I'd have ended up with it, we would have accepted and waited to move - at least it would have only been 5 mins away and not miles away....

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