Violent child in DDs class

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My dd is in a class with some very challenging children. There is a small group of them that seem to struggle to follow the rules and I feel sorry for the teacher most days as she's lovely but I think even she is finding them hard work. I have seen them at parties and they are even worse when high on sugar!
There is one however who has become very angry and voilent. He is screaming at other children and physically hurting them. My dd is quite quiet and is very scared of him.
I volunteer in the class and the teacher has an evacuation plan in place so if he becomes aggressive she can remove the rest of the class safely. I am not concerned for dd's physical safety but emotionally I don't know how to reassure her as this child is threatening children and becoming angry on a daily basis.

The school is obviously taking it seriously. Your dd may find it worrying but frankly there is nothing else you can or should do. You will not be privy to all the details about this child's behaviour and its causes. You need to stay focussed on your dd. if she is making progress and is safe in school then that is all you should be concerned about. If you want to help her understand I would talk to her about how some children have difficulty controlling their emotions.

This sounds a really tricky situation. The teacher is clearly doing her best under difficult circumstances. Is there any extra support for this child? If he has an INA with him, then all you can do is talk to your daughter in the way cansu suggested.

If however, the teacher is having to cope on her own, or just with the TA who is supposed to be supporting the whole class, then I'd try to make an appointment to see the Head and I'd encourage other parents of children in the class to do the same.
Out of courtesy, I'd let the class teacher know that you are planning to do this and that you aren't being critical of her or how she is coping. Some schools are great at providing extra support, but some Heads can be slow to do this - understandable as budgets are so tight.
If the teacher doesn't have anybody supporting this particular child, then she might appreciate a bit of parental involvement - there are some Heads who listen to parents more than they seem to listen to their staff.

You could explain to your dd that this child reacts this way when he is upset/anxious and reassure her that she is safe. I've been the mother of that child, knowing that there are procedures in place to remove the whole class when he got upset and it was bloody horrible.

you do know that ADHD is real??

btw - I understand the situation as I've seen it from both points of view. As a teacher, I've seen children visibly frightened by the behaviour of others.
My own dd had a boy with emotional and behaviour problems in her class throughout her time in primary school, and there were times when the other children had to be evacuated from the classroom.

When this happens it's really upsetting for everyone concerned - including the children who can't control their behaviour. Sadly, it seems to be becoming less of a rarity than it once was.

It's quite a normal situation, to be honest.

Really, you just have to be reassuring. It sounds as if the school have it under control - it's normal to evacuate the class rather than the child in question. Usually the class know exactly what to do, where to go, etc.

If you are concerned that the child is not getting the support he/she needs, then you should definitely discuss this with the HT.

You of course can not go around discussing what you see in the class with other parents, but I would definitely be hugely sympathetic and supportive to the child's parents. They are often ostracised and seen to be at fault, whereas they are fighting for their child to be supported to prevent violence, with little help available. It's an isolating place to be.

So, if you feel the child does not have enough support (ie 1-1 that can recognise and prevent triggers, and help child learn coping mechanisms) please do talk to HT. If your concern is not for the child in question, and for the emotional wellbeing of the other children in the class, then you just need to carry on as usual and be supportive. Kids in these classes manage fine, from infants up, and they fully understand that x cannot control his/ her emotions and struggles. They are very empathetic - often much more so than the parent who wants the kid out at all costs.

What a horrible post proudmummy2456.

i think someone needs to look at the
this is my child campaign......
anyway

Oh, proud, bless. You have lived a sheltered life, haven't you? I'm assuming that you were lucky enough to have NT kids and no knowledge (heavens to murphy) of anyone struggling with a child like this? There but for the grace of God...

Thanks for perfectly illustrating my example of parents with less empathy than their offspring, though. Nicely done.

I can't abide teachers who think this child need extra support

So what would you do with the child? Even if you do just think they are badly behaved?

It's common to give temporary exclusions following a serious incident. But if a Head decided to give a permanent exclusion without having given extra support then it would just be overturned by the LA. Even with extra support in class, other services coming into school and the support of governors it can be hard to get an LA to uphold a permanent exclusion.

i have reported the GF
I may not have a small child(now) but I know ADHD exists.

ffs why do goady fuckers like proud hi jack threads

Who asked you to educate me?

Why should other children be afraid to go to school because they're at risk of being stabbed with a pencil or pushed over? Answer me that? I know I never had that 20 years ago so why now?

I think it depends on how frightened and insecure your child is. I don't think any child should be allowed to make a school a threatening place for other children no matter what the reasons are. If you are concerned make an appontment with the Head teacher to voice your concerns.