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Sorry, another reading one... how to stop DD from guessing

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Pozzled · 16/05/2013 19:24

DD1 is in reception. Her reading has really taken off recently - her school don't use bookbands but she's somewhere around green level. The problem is that she is starting to guess unfamiliar words from the context rather than sounding out. Whenever she makes a mistake, I get her to use her phonics, but how can I get her to do this automatically? More phonics practice? Reading words out of context? Harder books so that she has to 'sound out' more often?

(Don't suggest I ask her teacher- the school would be quite happy for her to use mixed methods. I'm not.)

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clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:30

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:32

you obviously have experience of bored disruptive isolated pupils?

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:34

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:34

how are they going to learn a rich vocabulary if you never expose them to it?

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:34

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:35

I have a child who is pre verbal but he enjoys the patterns and sounds of text

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:36

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:37

they might enjoy "fantastical" more than "house" why limit a child

Feenie · 17/05/2013 22:38

We do Talking Partners in Reception and it's really successful in boosting vocabulary and grammar.

We know from lots of sources (pupil voice, pupil interviews, parental surveys, etc) that our children are far from bored.

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:39

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:46

Yes clattypatty I'm very serious ... why should a child be restricted to hearing " The big cat sat on the mat" ... why can't they listen to quality texts ... why can't they just enjoy the rhythm and pattern as part of their day?

I am pretty sure any advice offered would have attracted the same response.

Haberdashery · 17/05/2013 22:47

One child manages to say 'toilet' and that is his only English after two years in school.

If this is really true, I would imagine this child has more problems than EAL to cope with. That would be very unusual indeed for a child in a new language environment.

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:48

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freetrait · 17/05/2013 22:49

Yes, you can enjoy the sound even if you don't understand as mrz says. Rather like reading to very young children. I've been surprised that my 4 year old likes listening to all sorts of things, and she did when she was 2 too Smile.

mrz · 17/05/2013 22:53

I told/read stories and sang songs to my children when they were tiny babies ... before they knew any words before they understood the meaning of my words ...were they bored?

mrz · 17/05/2013 22:54

I haven't seen any direct questions

clattypatty · 17/05/2013 22:54

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mrz · 17/05/2013 22:57

Then your head needs to research language development clattypatty

mrz · 17/05/2013 22:58

Some sounds in English aren't found in other languages so often EAL children need to develop awareness of the sounds of English.

ipadquietly · 17/05/2013 23:02

clattypatty
I agree - they have to be able to communicate first using everyday language!
Have you heard of talk boost?
www.ican.org.uk/talkboost

learnandsay · 17/05/2013 23:03

Talking of strange sounds, we're going to Wales, were I was brought up, in a couple of weeks time and it's great to watch my whole family all learning to pronounce the place name Llanychaer.

Feenie · 17/05/2013 23:05
Grin

I was also brought up in Wales - South Wales.

mrz · 17/05/2013 23:07

No one is disputing they have to be able to communicate ipadquiety but that doesn't exclude listening to stories that contain more advanced vocabulary

KansasCityOctopus · 17/05/2013 23:08

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