Prepping for a pandemic... 13

[FuckThisWind]

Sorry I couldn't find a new thread. If there is one already, I'll have this deleted.

Will get links etc brought over from last thread too.

Jeez they are a bunch of self serving, incompetent twats, aren't they

Ffs Start early and continue to delay until the peak flattens - I don’t mind being bored to be at home but I am worried that I may lose loved ones

Well we are classed as expendables presumably. I'm over 60, DH over 70, despite contributing to the economy all our working lives (and since retirement from professional life, growing food for ourselves and others!) as well as teaching and contributing to our local community, we will be "sadly with underlying health conditions" I expect

covering a portion of affected people under the affected with mild flu group so the numbers will look less .. are they? Also does that mean there is no 14 day self isolation? Only 7 days?

@Nofoolfornoone

Things you get

Thermometer and spare batteries for it ( button batteries poundland)
Spare batteries in general
Vitamins for immune system ( vitamin D and Zinc has been mentioned)
An Oximetre from Amazon if your inclined. They are around £20
Any food or drinks that would require little effect to make up ingest as this seems to be a lonnnnngg illness ( cup a soups, soup, protein shakes maybe but only if you would eat them anyway)
Walking daily and fresh air sounds a great idea but fill up your tank anyway.

I might still babysit if your db promises to have to the kids feed bathed etc for you. Then just wipe over the work surfaces you touch ( and remote) say to yourself "everything the kids touched is lava!"
I think it might get to point where we cant easily see family maybe inna few weeks. So maybe go, but pretend your a germaphobe? 🤔

The situation in Italy March 12 2020, 18.00

POSITIVE 12838
DECEASED 1016
HEALED 1258

15113 cases to date.

Among the current positives:

are found in home isolation 5036
hospitalized with symptoms 6640
in intensive care 1153

Changes today:

Dead + 189
Positive today (not dead or healed) +2249

Total cases to date +2651

In ICU +125
In hospital not ICU +812
Extra cases in hospital inc. ICU +937

@Catmaiden agree .. no thoughts about so many people and grandparents.. I don’t have much trust. Please take care and stay safe XX

7 days...isn't it meant to be 14?

From the 7th to the 8th we were plus 1492 cases.

From the 11th to the 12th it's plus 2651.

Yes, isn't it meant to be 14???

It is, twats cant even get that right

Boris's strategy seems to be to surround himself with 'experts' who are either as daft as he is, or who are willing to say whatever he wants them to say.
Three hours in a Cobra crisis meeting, seeing what's happening in Italy and the advice from doctors there to implement extreme measures now before we reach their levels - and they come up with stay home with a cough/fever, no school trips overseas (are there even many?) and elderly/ill to not go on cruises (a small select group who can afford to do so anyway). Unreal.

I still think BoZo is gentally trying to ramp.up measures. So doing it only to minimize the shock effect?

Ds 16 in his GCSE year seems to be positive it's a possibility of school closure so that's a relief. He thinks everything will just be pushed back to sit gcses in Summer holiday ( I have booked a holiday for end if July!)

So i might be teaching GCSE and years 7,3 and R at some point.

I need more Gin!

My children all have a cough but I wouldn’t describe it as persistent, it mostly happens at night - I suspect because they are quite snotty so getting post nasal drip. Would you self isolate in this scenario?

Well, this is strange. I had a thought today about people possibly wanting honey.
Sure enough, I've just got home and a knock on the door. Neighbour wanting 4 jars. He says he likes to have it in to relieve flu symptoms...
(Sorry, Beekeeping family here - this may make sense now)

What I don’t really understand is why aren’t we testing more? Why don’t we send every family a swab kit, open a lab and get it all sent there and tested quickly? Listening to all this I feel I have a sore throat, it’s got to be symptomatic but if I could even pay for a test I would! I feel most people want to know if they have it because if everyone rang up sick because they had some mild symptom the country would come to a standstill and most people are afraid they’ve got it wrong and stayed home for no reason. So I think lots more people will go out to work etc even with mild symptoms as they will be afraid they are overreacting.

I'm so angry at this government's lack of action. Totally all about protecting the wealth of his mates, don't upset the apple cart etc. He's utterly useless. And we can't even throw a coup because we daren't go near each other. Lovely. At what point do we just take the kids out and risk the fines I suppose is the question?

Country is going to come to a standstill anyway.
Social order is remarkably delicate.

Jezz Vento how many in ICU??

People keep saying it's because Italy has long lived citizens. I couldn't help noticing on ITV lunch time news a man on ventilation had black body hair. He wasnt 80 ....... possibly 30ish

My mum has told me she had her flu jab, would wash her hands after she got off the phone to me ( had just got in) and was on her way out again

FML....

I think the media got it wrong dumbing this down from.the off.

Now people struggle to grasp it is in fact "not just a mild case of the flu..."

Feels like the people still working in the twin towers until the second plaine hit. Sorry to be a downer there

@MakeLemonade my three children are all now coughing, less during the day however two were coughing all throughout the night. I kept my primary aged child off of school. Not sure what to do either , I don't think it's THE virus but where do we go from here ?

My daughter has just come to me crying worrying about her great nan , this is a true nightmare.

The closed case death rate has been tracking downwards for a while to 6% but today it has gone back up to 7%

Thank you @Sprayitall and the same to you and every one else on this thread. Its been a great comfort to have all these threads to read, although after the DM lifted my comment I've not posted much.

I went to my local (small) town for fuel and a last stock up of fresh stuff plus a couple of last min things I'd forgotten (bird seed and cat medication from the farm store) Everywhere was eerily quiet, and everyone in the shops were keeping a noticably large distance between them and other people.

No hand gel or loo roll to be seen, and signs in all three supermarkets telli g people to take no more than three (or two, in the case of hygiene products) items per person of store cupboard items.

Staff on tills were rigorously enforcing the rule as well, which was good to see.

Long queues at service station for fuel.

Last time I saw it like this was 2000 fuel crisis swiftly followed by 2001 foot and mouth outbreak.

Lots of very worried looking people around and those I spoke to were very apprehensive about what will happen next

I agree that they are very gently ramping up the measures. I think they feel the consequences of panic buying etc more than they fear the virus. They think we are all stupid and that if they break it all to us gently that this will minimise this!

What it reminds me of are the videos of the Boxing Day Tsunami.

Holidaymakers in bikinis were still standing on the beach looking at the wave long after the first people had started running away

So if, say, only 10% of the population get it, 6.5 million, then 6% of those die that’s 390,000 people. Is my maths right?