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Third abortion scheduled next Friday - feeling desperate

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Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 12:23

Dear everyone,

Please be gentle on me, but I need to tell my story and I would love some advice - as I’m simply at my wit’s end. I’ve been reading all the threads on here looking for some advice, but none of the situations really resemble mine. I hope there’s maybe someone who can relate…it’s a long story - please bear with me..

Two years ago I had just gotten together with my new partner, been through a terrible divorce, and fell pregnant. It was wanted, but once I was pregnant, I had a horrible antenatal depression, which brought up past trauma, and I wasn’t ready. I was in total anguish and even went to the hospital, but no one could help me. I couldn’t even imagine having wanted to be pregnant, and felt completely estranged and alienated from myself. My partner really wanted the child. He resented me after, a lot. And I regretted my decision. The grief was unbearable. And he made sure I felt like a perpetrator, which made the grief process much worse. He wanted to be a dad so much, and just couldn’t get around the fact that we had wanted this, and then I terminated. I think I put up with his blaming and accusations, and general inconsistent treatment (he was barely loving, generous or kind for a long time, while I tried to reach him, tried to grieve together, but it didn’t work) because I felt so guilty and bad. For months I was deeply grieving, as the moment the hormones left my body, I reconnected with the wish to be a mother, and the love I felt for what was now gone. I sometimes thought I did not want to live anymore.

About half a year later I fell pregnant by accident again, birth control failed. Initially I was so happy, and really wanted to keep it. But I noticed my partner wasn’t in it, he wasn’t willing to take the care he felt the first time, and I was afraid I wasn’t going to make it mentally without his support, and decided to terminate again. Seeing the difference between the first and the second in terms of his happiness (the first time he had been over the moon), made me just so sad, and I wanted the kid to be wanted and desired… it was really tough, and even though my partner promised it would be different this time, and he would be there for me emotionally afterwards, he wasn’t.

Fasts forward to 8 months later - now. Again my birth control failed me, and I found out I’m pregnant again. It happened after my partner broke up with me after a horrible fight, where he called me the most horrible word one can use towards a woman, and we didn’t see each other for 4 weeks. When we saw each other we had sex and that’s when it must have happened. I’m happy and sad that I’m pregnant again. I know he would take care of the child, and I love him a lot, but there is so much resentment between us from the past years - I feel hurt by how he blamed me and resented me after the abortion, and he is still resentful about the fact that I didn’t have the first child. Over time, the chain of hurt has caused us both to feel like having any serious talk is a minefield. He feels and says he is the victim of our relationship, and I am just not sure any relationship can work if one person feels like that’s and therefore thinks his behavior is legitimized (blocking me out, getting mad at me, silent treatments, inconsistency in care and love, etc). Since the abortion, he has centered his feelings and anger and grief, and I feel like there has been no space for me. I know this is by far the most ideal situation to raise a kid. I have hopes that things will fall into place somehow if I go through with it, but I also know I can’t put that kind of weight on an innocent child. I feel love for the baby and I deeply desire to be a mother, but I’m also scared of being bound to this man, who has made me feel unsafe and deeply unhappy, forever. I’m scared that I’m setting myself up for a miserable life with a man who is deeply hurt and therefore careless with my feelings. At the same time, I’m horrified at the thought of having another abortion, and the grief and guilt that may come with it. I don’t know what I should focus on: the desire to be a mother, the love I feel for this growing life, or the situation. I’m scared I won’t get another chance at children - that I’ve somehow said “no” to the gifts of the universe too many times and I’ll be undeserving. At the same time I can see how this may be a turning point in my life, and I would be able to work towards the conditions that I and a future child would deserve in life..

Im sorry for all this rambling, but I’m hoping someone might be able to relate or have some advice to share. It’s really tough to share this story, and I know it’s far from “usual”, but thank you for reading and/or responding :)

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Maggiesfarm · 17/06/2021 15:20

@Soubriquet

I’m sorry you are going through this but I would suggest you look at a different form of contraception so you don’t have to go through it all again

I wish you all the luck you need

I was thinking the same, or else be sterilised.

You obviously don't want another baby at the moment and who can blame you. Frankly your 'partner' doesn't sound very nice but why not just enjoy being single for a while. Life isn't all about having a 'partner' and babies and when you've already been through it, the single life is very attractive.

GertietheGherkin · 17/06/2021 15:27

I'd dump your partner!
He sounds like a right plum. You seem very indifferent to this pregnancy. It will also commit you to this partner in the fact you share a child together.
You really do need to get your contraception sorted out. Using two forms of birth control and still managing to fall pregnant is very strange.
Hope you sort it all out, it sounds like a difficult time.

Tempusfudgeit · 17/06/2021 15:35

Break up now, this relationship cannot succeed any further. Get your life on steadier footing. Get some counselling, work on yourself. This is the time to be the best person you can be. Make and own your decisions: you can be a good mother and co-parent as long as you don't engage with him. It's going to take hard work but we get one chance at life. You owe it to the universe to give it your best shot.

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 15:36

@Zebra13

Hi *@Anna1989*, I'm so sorry you are in this situation ? Am I right in thinking that the first pregnancy was planned , but the second two were caused by the pill not working , ( apologies if I am reading this wrong). If the pill has failed twice, in wondering if a progesterone only method, like the injection, may be better for you ? Or a non hormonal method, such as an IUD coil. I do know people who have the injection and speak very well of it.

As for this, well, it's completely up to you, but I would be very worried a third termination would seriously affect your mental health. How would you feel about making a go of it , alone, with the baby ? I'd be happy to PM you regarding housing and benefits advice if you think that may be helpful at all. Sounds like you've had a very tough time, take care.

Thank you for this very kind an compassionate reply, I really appreciate it! You're indeed reading it correctly, the pill failed twice.. I heard some good things about the injection too, maybe that is indeed a better option, since I've had a few problems with the coil..

I worry about my mental health too - the first pregnancy really caused a lot of grief, and the second one was not easy either (although that termination was rather early, and it was, for me, easier to process because of that – whatever I do, I want to make the decision early this time too..)

I feel pretty positive about giving it a go by myself, but am more worried about the father, and how our relation is going to affect me and the baby. I know he will want to be incredibly involved, and somehow the thought of that dynamic being messy and horrible gives me more anxiety than raising the kid alone. I think he would be a good father, but I'm scared as to the degree of control he will have over my life through the child, if we end up not being able to make it work either romantically or in a friendly manner. I'm afraid I will feel very stuck, watched, and unable to move on romantically at some point. The last years have been so mentally draining, and I've been really unsuccesful at letting him go (which all my friends and family say I should, and I would say to me too, but just can't seem to, fully), that I worry what will happen once I am the mother of his child, if that makes any sense..In my mind, it would be easier if I were 'really' alone.

Thank you again :)

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moofolk · 17/06/2021 15:40

A different contraception is clearly a good idea for you.

Other than that my advice is: try and avoid it happening again (ie a contraception method that works for you), and don't feel guilty about what's gone before.

I marked the date that would have been my due date and had it as a 'family as it is' day and spent the day appreciating my life as it was, and being grateful I wasn't about to arse everything up by bringing another baby into the world.

It worked for me and have had DMs from other Mumsnet users who said it worked for them too.

Part of the reason it worked for me is that any grief around having an abortion (or two) wasn't about harm to an unborn as I'm totally pro abortion, but a grief for the kind of life I would have had to be living in order for it to be viable for me to have continued with the pregnancy.

Then you see your life as it is and can feel relief and gratitude for your choice.

Good luck OP Thanks

Shutupyoutart · 17/06/2021 15:42

Op do you want this baby?take him out of the equation for a moment. I know it's not all straight forward but if you want to have the baby then I agree with other posters who that feel another abortion would really affect your mental health. There is no perfect time to have a child as even when it's planned you aren't really ever 100percent prepared for what it's like or how you will feel. Your relationship really doesn't sound very stable so if you go through with the pregnancy I think you need to be prepared to go it alone,can you do that? No one on here can make such a decision for you it has to be yours. Have a really hard think about what it is you want the most and go from there. Go easy on yourself it sounds like you have been through a lot ,wish you all the best Xx

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 15:49

@moofolk

A different contraception is clearly a good idea for you.

Other than that my advice is: try and avoid it happening again (ie a contraception method that works for you), and don't feel guilty about what's gone before.

I marked the date that would have been my due date and had it as a 'family as it is' day and spent the day appreciating my life as it was, and being grateful I wasn't about to arse everything up by bringing another baby into the world.

It worked for me and have had DMs from other Mumsnet users who said it worked for them too.

Part of the reason it worked for me is that any grief around having an abortion (or two) wasn't about harm to an unborn as I'm totally pro abortion, but a grief for the kind of life I would have had to be living in order for it to be viable for me to have continued with the pregnancy.

Then you see your life as it is and can feel relief and gratitude for your choice.

Good luck OP Thanks

Thank you, this is so very helpful.. I will try incorporating this ritual for the two pregnancies I didn't receive. I've been struggling with how to grieve/remember, and I will definitely give this a try.
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Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 15:51

@Shutupyoutart

Op do you want this baby?take him out of the equation for a moment. I know it's not all straight forward but if you want to have the baby then I agree with other posters who that feel another abortion would really affect your mental health. There is no perfect time to have a child as even when it's planned you aren't really ever 100percent prepared for what it's like or how you will feel. Your relationship really doesn't sound very stable so if you go through with the pregnancy I think you need to be prepared to go it alone,can you do that? No one on here can make such a decision for you it has to be yours. Have a really hard think about what it is you want the most and go from there. Go easy on yourself it sounds like you have been through a lot ,wish you all the best Xx
Thanks so much for your kind words. You're right I really need to think this through. I wish I could somehow make contact with what I really, ultimately want, but my head just feels so cloudy (also the hormones I think) right now! I'm going to try to make the best possible decision.. Thank you again!
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Gettingbiggerandbigger · 17/06/2021 15:53

One accident with contraception I can understand as I know it happens, twice not so much. The first time it happened you should have taken extra precautions. After 30 years of using condoms I have never had an unplanned pregnancy, if they split then I get the morning after pill.

I understand your reasoning for the first termination, even the second at a push. If your regularly having failures in contraception you need to stop having sex until your in a better mental place to cope with any further “accidents” otherwise it sounds to me that you are using abortion as a contraception.

Shutupyoutart · 17/06/2021 16:07

Op I don't know how many weeks you are but can you delay the termination to give yourself some breathing space to think it through some more

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 16:44

@Shutupyoutart

Op I don't know how many weeks you are but can you delay the termination to give yourself some breathing space to think it through some more
It's very early on still, I think 4 weeks and then some, but I want to avoid making a decision later than 6 weeks, because that's haunted me a lot with the first termination...
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moofolk · 17/06/2021 17:02

I hope it is helpful. I think it’s helpful if you’re insure of your decision now.

Will you feel grateful for your life not having a baby in, or sad? Think about it and let it inform your choice. If you defo think that termination is right for you, then commit to thinking about what and why is a relief : positive about that.

Advice I heard once (on MN) on big decisions is to toss a coin. It sounds really flippant, but it’s more to check your own feelings.

Heads abortion, tails not (or whichever).

As it lands do you feel relief or terror? Then make your decision.

Freebleweeble · 17/06/2021 21:25

Dear OP I really feel for you.
Slightly different angle- I think there are so many red flags with this man.
I had children with someone after terminating for reasons I won’t go into. It was very hard and we grieved together, but for not one second was he less engaged with subsequent pregnancies.

You write as though the first termination somehow broke the relationship, but I think he would have been a bad partner to have a a child with, and you have been very lucky that you were able to end previous pregnancies, and did not get tied to him back then.

If I could wave a wand and have you do anything, I’d say thank your lucky stars and move on from him as fast as you can.

With regard to this pregnancy, I think you have to think long and hard about how it will be to have him in your life permanently, and how a child might fare if his worst side is constantly on show. Imagine the worst case scenario of his behaviour, not the best...

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Maggiesfarm · 17/06/2021 22:37

What freebie said.
Wine

Shutupyoutart · 22/06/2021 18:30

Hope you are doing ok op x

worktrip · 23/06/2021 10:56

Have this abortion and sort out adequate contraception. End this toxic relationship and get some counselling. In your next relationship work out what you actually want and hopefully you won't make the same mistakes. These things happen, don't be hard on yourself

cheezy · 23/06/2021 11:03

It sounds to me like you do want the baby and want to be a mother. I think you may regret terminating, but that’s just a hunch.

Eskarina1 · 23/06/2021 11:31

Termination providers will offer counseling and there is no agenda, they want to create the space for you to find your decision or come to terms with it.

I'm really sorry you find yourself in this situation. His reactions don't seem normal - telling you he'd be "on you" if he doesn't like your parenting? My friend had a termination under very similar circumstances to your first. Her husband was with her in the horrible choice of terminating a wanted pregnancy or risking psychosis. It's not your fault and it is not something you did to him. He shouldn't have stuck around to resent you for it

Maggiesfarm · 25/06/2021 02:46

@worktrip

Have this abortion and sort out adequate contraception. End this toxic relationship and get some counselling. In your next relationship work out what you actually want and hopefully you won't make the same mistakes. These things happen, don't be hard on yourself
That.
Zebra13 · 25/06/2021 17:10

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LCDIT · 25/06/2021 17:27

@Anythingelseintheboxpandora

Ditch him. Ditch the victim mentality. Take responsibility and sort out your contraception.
I agree with this.
moofolk · 01/07/2021 21:25

How are you?

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