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Third abortion scheduled next Friday - feeling desperate

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Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 12:23

Dear everyone,

Please be gentle on me, but I need to tell my story and I would love some advice - as I’m simply at my wit’s end. I’ve been reading all the threads on here looking for some advice, but none of the situations really resemble mine. I hope there’s maybe someone who can relate…it’s a long story - please bear with me..

Two years ago I had just gotten together with my new partner, been through a terrible divorce, and fell pregnant. It was wanted, but once I was pregnant, I had a horrible antenatal depression, which brought up past trauma, and I wasn’t ready. I was in total anguish and even went to the hospital, but no one could help me. I couldn’t even imagine having wanted to be pregnant, and felt completely estranged and alienated from myself. My partner really wanted the child. He resented me after, a lot. And I regretted my decision. The grief was unbearable. And he made sure I felt like a perpetrator, which made the grief process much worse. He wanted to be a dad so much, and just couldn’t get around the fact that we had wanted this, and then I terminated. I think I put up with his blaming and accusations, and general inconsistent treatment (he was barely loving, generous or kind for a long time, while I tried to reach him, tried to grieve together, but it didn’t work) because I felt so guilty and bad. For months I was deeply grieving, as the moment the hormones left my body, I reconnected with the wish to be a mother, and the love I felt for what was now gone. I sometimes thought I did not want to live anymore.

About half a year later I fell pregnant by accident again, birth control failed. Initially I was so happy, and really wanted to keep it. But I noticed my partner wasn’t in it, he wasn’t willing to take the care he felt the first time, and I was afraid I wasn’t going to make it mentally without his support, and decided to terminate again. Seeing the difference between the first and the second in terms of his happiness (the first time he had been over the moon), made me just so sad, and I wanted the kid to be wanted and desired… it was really tough, and even though my partner promised it would be different this time, and he would be there for me emotionally afterwards, he wasn’t.

Fasts forward to 8 months later - now. Again my birth control failed me, and I found out I’m pregnant again. It happened after my partner broke up with me after a horrible fight, where he called me the most horrible word one can use towards a woman, and we didn’t see each other for 4 weeks. When we saw each other we had sex and that’s when it must have happened. I’m happy and sad that I’m pregnant again. I know he would take care of the child, and I love him a lot, but there is so much resentment between us from the past years - I feel hurt by how he blamed me and resented me after the abortion, and he is still resentful about the fact that I didn’t have the first child. Over time, the chain of hurt has caused us both to feel like having any serious talk is a minefield. He feels and says he is the victim of our relationship, and I am just not sure any relationship can work if one person feels like that’s and therefore thinks his behavior is legitimized (blocking me out, getting mad at me, silent treatments, inconsistency in care and love, etc). Since the abortion, he has centered his feelings and anger and grief, and I feel like there has been no space for me. I know this is by far the most ideal situation to raise a kid. I have hopes that things will fall into place somehow if I go through with it, but I also know I can’t put that kind of weight on an innocent child. I feel love for the baby and I deeply desire to be a mother, but I’m also scared of being bound to this man, who has made me feel unsafe and deeply unhappy, forever. I’m scared that I’m setting myself up for a miserable life with a man who is deeply hurt and therefore careless with my feelings. At the same time, I’m horrified at the thought of having another abortion, and the grief and guilt that may come with it. I don’t know what I should focus on: the desire to be a mother, the love I feel for this growing life, or the situation. I’m scared I won’t get another chance at children - that I’ve somehow said “no” to the gifts of the universe too many times and I’ll be undeserving. At the same time I can see how this may be a turning point in my life, and I would be able to work towards the conditions that I and a future child would deserve in life..

Im sorry for all this rambling, but I’m hoping someone might be able to relate or have some advice to share. It’s really tough to share this story, and I know it’s far from “usual”, but thank you for reading and/or responding :)

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Soubriquet · 17/06/2021 12:28

I’m sorry you are going through this but I would suggest you look at a different form of contraception so you don’t have to go through it all again

I wish you all the luck you need

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 12:30

Thank you, Soubriquet, I really appreciate it. And yes, definitely going to switch contraception.,

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Shehasadiamondinthesky · 17/06/2021 12:38

I would recommend ending things with this man and never going back. It's endless drama and there should never be all of this drama in a relationship.
Its better to have kids with someone safe, hard work and non hystrionic.
This man will turn your life upside down and inside out for the next 18 plus years.
My ex husband is still intrusive in my life after 40 years, My son who is 40 obviously sees him and speaks about him and my ex loves to chuck in a bomb now and then to get us at each others throats, I'd murder him if I could.
Star afresh with someone new and nice.

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 12:42

Thank you for your reply, and I’m so sorry you had to go through that and still do! That sounds so horrible. We’re you able to put up any boundaries when raising the child together? Or was it just all miserable? And it does really make me think that it is the best to go through with the abortion. I just can’t seem to end things with him as I think we’ve somehow bonded very unhealthily through the trauma of the first abortion. We both love each other a lot, but indeed, it’s always drama, and it has been for the last two years. And I just don’t see that change, even though I want it to..

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Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 13:26

@Shehasadiamondinthesky

I would recommend ending things with this man and never going back. It's endless drama and there should never be all of this drama in a relationship. Its better to have kids with someone safe, hard work and non hystrionic. This man will turn your life upside down and inside out for the next 18 plus years. My ex husband is still intrusive in my life after 40 years, My son who is 40 obviously sees him and speaks about him and my ex loves to chuck in a bomb now and then to get us at each others throats, I'd murder him if I could. Star afresh with someone new and nice.
Also, if I may ask - did you also have hopes that it would work out? And how did you manage to cut him lose? Sorry if too intrusive!
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osbertthesyrianhamster · 17/06/2021 13:32

Terminate your relationship with this man first and foremost.

TheLovleyChebbyMcGee · 17/06/2021 13:33

Not much to add other than take care and be kind to yourself, it sounds like an awful situation to be in, xx

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 13:45

@TheLovleyChebbyMcGee

Not much to add other than take care and be kind to yourself, it sounds like an awful situation to be in, xx
Thank you so much
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Viviennemary · 17/06/2021 13:49

I agree if this is so upsetting for you then you need to look at a more permanent form of contraception that wont fail. And I agree that you should end the relationship.

WeIcomeToGilead · 17/06/2021 13:54

What contraception are you using? Can’t you use two forms?

You need to take ownership of your body, these traumatic events are completely avoidable with some thought

Ditch the man as well, he’s no prize

You don’t need to live like this

Anythingelseintheboxpandora · 17/06/2021 13:58

Ditch him. Ditch the victim mentality. Take responsibility and sort out your contraception.

OnTheBrink1 · 17/06/2021 14:02

Firstly this seems like a toxic relationship now. Even if you have love for each other, there are far too many other things that long term are making it toxic for the both of you.
Secondly, focus on you, and the child. Mentally take him out of the equation for a moment. If you separated would you want this child? You want to be a mother and the time is never perfect for most people!
You may get pregnant again but equally you may not- nothing is guaranteed.

lotstolose1 · 17/06/2021 14:14

Contraception failed you 3 times? What are you using and are you using it properly....

Ditch the guy and please sort your contraception out, I'm not anti-termination by any means I've had one myself but it should by no means be something to fall back on multiple times...

What you do about current pregnancy, I don't know. Only you deep down can know what to do, but people can and do do it on their own

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:19

@lotstolose1

Contraception failed you 3 times? What are you using and are you using it properly....

Ditch the guy and please sort your contraception out, I'm not anti-termination by any means I've had one myself but it should by no means be something to fall back on multiple times...

What you do about current pregnancy, I don't know. Only you deep down can know what to do, but people can and do do it on their own

Thanks for your reply.. It failed twice - the first pregnancy was wanted, but resulted in a severe antenatal depression that was diagnosed in the psychiatric pregnancy ward at the hospital, with a risk of pregnancy psychosis. I had deeply wanted it, but just couldn't go through with it.

I've been using condoms and the pill - the condom broke twice and the pill didn't work both times to keep me from getting pregnant. I have no idea why, since I take it everyday around the same time. I want to switch to another form of birth control. Obviously I'm not taking this lightly, or trying to use termination as birth control...

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Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:21

@OnTheBrink1

Firstly this seems like a toxic relationship now. Even if you have love for each other, there are far too many other things that long term are making it toxic for the both of you. Secondly, focus on you, and the child. Mentally take him out of the equation for a moment. If you separated would you want this child? You want to be a mother and the time is never perfect for most people! You may get pregnant again but equally you may not- nothing is guaranteed.
Thank you.. I think perhaps it's best to focus on whether I want the child regardless of the situation, as a situation is of course never perfect..
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roarfeckingroarr · 17/06/2021 14:21

Leave the man, keep the baby, move on.

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:23

@Anythingelseintheboxpandora

Ditch him. Ditch the victim mentality. Take responsibility and sort out your contraception.
Thanks. I know I have to take responsibility, and commit to either terminating and rethinking my life, or continuing and committing fully to being the best mother that I can. I'm considering other forms of contraception now, since this is obviously not working..
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redheadonatractor · 17/06/2021 14:30

So you're on the pill, condoms broke twice and the pill failed both times?! I'm sorry you can't be taking the pill properly, at least.

Please sort your contraception out. Get an implant, the injection or the coil and use condoms.

I'm sorry you're going through this but you need to take charge of your own health and body.

And ditch the boyfriend. Your relationship sounds utterly toxic and completely unsuitable to raise a child in!

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:35

@redheadonatractor

So you're on the pill, condoms broke twice and the pill failed both times?! I'm sorry you can't be taking the pill properly, at least.

Please sort your contraception out. Get an implant, the injection or the coil and use condoms.

I'm sorry you're going through this but you need to take charge of your own health and body.

And ditch the boyfriend. Your relationship sounds utterly toxic and completely unsuitable to raise a child in!

Yep - that is exactly what happened. I wish I’d be making this up. I took the pill at pretty regular hours, every day, with a stop for my period. I’m going to get the coil - I used to use that and it worked perfectly for years, until it got stuck in there and it was a pain to get it out - but I’ll take that risk again. And yeah, I’m starting to see that this relationship doesn’t have much potential anymore. We tried relationship therapy, even, but it seems like we just get into the same dynamic over and over again,
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AnneLovesGilbert · 17/06/2021 14:37

You’ve got no future with your ex so decide whether you want to be a single mum, if the rest of your life is stable enough, if you can afford it, your housing is secure, you have enough support from friends or family. You can’t stop him being involved, he’s the dad, but you can’t rely on him so need to be able to go it alone as it’s a real possibility.

That’s all there is to think about really. If you have yet another abortion your mental health might suffer. If you have the baby the rest of your life will change forever and that can be a good or a bad thing. People do regret their children, there’s no guarantee you’ll love being a mum as much as you hope.

I’d step away from the notion of gifts from the universe, guilt, fate etc. You had sex a bunch of times and conceived 3 times. The universe isn’t trying to tell you anything other than your contraception isn’t suitable for you.

Do you want to be a mum. With a complicated messy dynamic with the dad who may or may not hang around. Or do you want to have an abortion, at which point stay single for a while.

AnneLovesGilbert · 17/06/2021 14:38

Plenty of time to think about the coil whatever decision you make. Celibacy is a better option which you sort your head out.

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:46

@AnneLovesGilbert

You’ve got no future with your ex so decide whether you want to be a single mum, if the rest of your life is stable enough, if you can afford it, your housing is secure, you have enough support from friends or family. You can’t stop him being involved, he’s the dad, but you can’t rely on him so need to be able to go it alone as it’s a real possibility.

That’s all there is to think about really. If you have yet another abortion your mental health might suffer. If you have the baby the rest of your life will change forever and that can be a good or a bad thing. People do regret their children, there’s no guarantee you’ll love being a mum as much as you hope.

I’d step away from the notion of gifts from the universe, guilt, fate etc. You had sex a bunch of times and conceived 3 times. The universe isn’t trying to tell you anything other than your contraception isn’t suitable for you.

Do you want to be a mum. With a complicated messy dynamic with the dad who may or may not hang around. Or do you want to have an abortion, at which point stay single for a while.

Dear Anne, Thank you so much for laying it out so clearly for me. And being so down to earth about the universe thing! I guess when I think about raising the baby alone, I feel like I could do it. It wouldn’t be ideal but I have a steady job, secure housing, and a bit of a support system (although mostly on his side of the family). The issue starts when I think about him: i know he will want to be the most involved dad possible, and I believe he would be a good father at that, but I’m afraid that he will become very controlling, and that we will find it difficult to find a mode to properly co-parent together. He’s said things in the past along the lines of “if you do that when you are a mum, I’ll be on you!”, indicating that he would have a very clear picture of what kind of mother I should be, which now scare me a little. And that kind of dynamic, in turn, is something that I don’t wish upon myself nor the child.. I guess I just really have to deeply think/feel this out before friday.
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Grazka · 17/06/2021 14:47

Change your contraception method

Anna1989 · 17/06/2021 14:50

@AnneLovesGilbert

Plenty of time to think about the coil whatever decision you make. Celibacy is a better option which you sort your head out.
Oh yes- definitely also considering celibacy for a while! :)
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Zebra13 · 17/06/2021 15:16

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