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I am suffering SPD (for the second time) and just need to vent without driving everyone else on my pregnancy thread mental. Not that they aren't supportive but I still have 20 weeks to go and I don't want to ruin their pregnancies by talking about mine!

Please come and join me so I don't feel so alone, and feel free to share tips if you have any....

doing ok ish this morning. the drs agree to give me a sleeping pill last night which was good but i still only got a couple hours but it was certainly better than nothing! just waiting around for the scan now. that's at 11.30 and after that the induction if everything ok. planning a mammoth breakfast as i won't be able to eat from 11 as the likelyhood of me needing a csection is high and it will have to be under general. anyway enough of rambling through my boredom! hope everyone else is ok and you girls aren't doing too much as usual!

kt everything crossed that the scan shows everythign they need to decide to induce/csection you. I just thought I'd drop in on here before I went to work - figured you might be bored in hospital and posting!

Enjoy your breakfast! I expect there will be some news by the time I come on here later, so good luck with everything. Off to work now! Then physio!!! Woo hoo, I'm almost as excited!!

xx

Morning everyone! I managed to get some sleep in the end last night after I got DH to flip the mattress at midnight. New mattress is being delivered on tues, but until then it's lumpy mattress. This one is less than 3 years old (never again will I buy anything from silentnight) but I can't find the receipt so I can't complain.And neither me nor DH are that heavy either.

Lucky you mrsS, my next physio is not til a week on Monday. Don't think she can do much more for me but you never know and she's going to discuss the dos and don'ts of childbirth.Hope your physio is as nice as mine.If she does try to straighten you out then it might not feel better straight away but if you take it easy the rest of the day you might wake up feeling ok.

ktw hope you manage to get a nice breakfast and that your baby is vast and bonny on the scan.Is that what they're looking for,like if babe is big enough they'll induce??

Everyone has gone very quiet,maybe getting some much needed rest.

Hi I'm new to this thread but need some advice. I'm 34 weeks pregnant and since Monday everyone has been saying that my bump has dropped. For the past 10 days I have had an excrutiating pain shoot down the inner left side of my legs whenever I walk or try to turn in bed. I do not have pain anywhere else and have no difficulty in opening my legs wide or in moving my back. Is this SPD or something else? I can't get a doctors appointment until next Friday and was not sure this was something I should bother my midwives with. Just worried that causing damage if do not get the pain seen to sooner than next Friday.

hi all
yet again i've done too much but actually, was partly DS's fault this time! A group of friends who have known each other for 15 years (and most now have babies!) all got together last night. I was feeling fine yesterday so DS and I popped down (1hr drive) to join the party. We both had a great time but house wasn't v child friendly and they had to labs (which incidentally were very patient with DS wanting to play with them but i didn't trust them 100%) so this meant lots of running round after him. still felt ok at the end of the day yesterday but... DS awake hourly all through the night At some point during the night i must have moved badly because i couldn't get out of bed this morning. thought i'd have to call my friend to come and get me but eventually i managed to get up. I then left pretty much straight away because i couldn't face more chasing round of dS. got home ok but now pretty much stuck on sofa. DH keeps phoning but i can't face walking down there to answer it. DS being very sweet and keeps coming over to stroke me! oh no, he needs a nappy change, i feel like crying. closest nappies are upstairs

sorry for not catching up. i did spot that kt might have some exciting news for us soon though

scruffers welcome!! I wouldn't liek to say if it is SPD or not, someone else on here with much more experience will no doubt coume along soon to help, but I would say it is something to bother your midwife about - if you need to see a physio then your midwife can refer you as well as your GP so if you can get in sooner to see her then I'd try that. If you need pain killers or anythign like that your midwife should be able to sort a prescription anyhoo.

LooLOO - glad you got some sleep. It is really quiet on here at the moment, it's a bit wierd. I do hope kt is doing alright - she might be in the middle of things as we speak?!

Saw physio, she was really nice. Gave me a maternity belt (which feels better but horrid when I sit down!) and an exercise to do to try and straighten my wonky knock-knees out which is apparently aggrevating the problem. No manipulation though and no follow up appointment.

She said that if she doesnt hear from me within a month she'll presume the belt has worked and I'm having no further probs . I presume I will need to make a further appt with her but dont know what else she'll be able to do (other than give me crutches - which she didn't mention, mind you, neither did I) as even if this belt is good I can't imagine it will make me 100% back to normal?? Or perhaps she doesn't mean that? Just if I can cope with the pain then I don't need her?

Anyway, will have to give it chance to work and see how it goes. She says I should hve a proper risk assessment at work too to see what I should be doing/not doing. But I think work wanted her to tell them that?!! Ah well, I feel better for having a belt - can I be proper member of the gang now?

hey girls sorry for not replying properly but just a quick update. the growth scan was fine, she is the right size for her age so they have agreed finally to induce me. waiting for the drs to come out of theatre to put the prostiglandin in as none of the midwives can do it as the head is still floating and nowhere near engaged! oh well at least once they've started they are comitted to finishing. watching lots on the laptop, very glad i bought it in with me! hopefully next time i update it will be either to say their doing a csection or the baby is born!

Woo hoo kt at least you are getting there.... FINALLY.

Can't wait to hear your news.

Hi ALL

hope everyone is ok, and good luck kt

im managing ok with pain, ive nearly given up sitting on our very soft and low down sofa as its not worth the pain trying to get comfortable and then trying to get back up.
so im on a patio/canvas type chair now while on laptop. Its less painful while sitting but of course the sniffness still remains when i stand to walk. B
ut i have a need to be comfortable for some portion of the day before the dreaded bedtime.

Loo i too have given up turning in bed i usually have to get up 2hourly or less just to relieve my sore hip. I just cant face the pain in the centre of my pelvis while turning over.

my next physio is not until 37 weeks im 35+2 wks at the moment so im hoping aslong as i dont overdo it walking etc..i'll cope until then.

Good luck kt my baby's not engaged either, due saturday! I think probably just as well as I have a feeling that birth will follow engagement pretty directly!

Great to have seen a physio at last mrssenior. I've only seen mine once - months ago now. Once I'd got a proper diagnosis, and knew how to do some exercises and all that, I didn't think it was worth going back unless things got unbearable. I've found that I've naturally scaled things back as time has gone on, and self managed through hydrotherapy / swimming / doing my own thing, although my work situation is kind of different - i'm 'just' writing up my PhD, and although I would have liked to have finished by now, recognised that's just not possible! I've never not finished something before...

Hi everyone and welcome scruffers.
Fingers crossed for you kt

mrsS your physio sounds like she's not going to do much, I wonder if you shouldn't get in touch with the pelvic partnership and find someone near you who will try manipulation? Or depending on where you live I don't know if you can see a different nhs physio. My physio also gave me tons of exercises to do mainly on a gymball.The exercises are supposed to strengthen the pelvic floor muscles which she says have to take over from the ligaments if you have spd.And having better pelvic floor muscles means you don't have to get up for a wee in the night (well not so often). The belt's good though, at least you can see how you get on with that and if it helps a bit.

mrsM i'm like you and need to be more organised about what's upstairs and where the phone is before I take to the sofa.Hope you manage to get some rest and feel a bit better soon. I can't chase my dc at the moment but fortunately they're big enough not to need it except when tired and hungry ds can be a right menace. Have given up vsiting FIL without DH as DS runs off when we have to go home.

mrsD have you tied sitting on a gym ball it's easier to get up off than a chair or sofa. And satin pajamas make it easier to turn over in bed (I still try not to though).

Crossed with you Whimsi. Think positive, the head can engage very quickly or it can be engaged a few weeks before labour starts (this happened with both my DC). It's not exactly comfortable having a baby's head wedged between your legs for a few weeks.

LooLOO I did look on the Pelvic partnership site and they sound like physios can work miracles on there - I jsut unfortunately can't afford one. I know that it is work that is my problem so I'm hoping that this belt will be all magical for me.

She didn't say anything about me not sitting down in it but I'm sure I rememebr someone saying yonks ago that you shouldn't??? I can't anyway as it makes me feel like someone has their hands round my throat if that makes sense... and yes I am wearing round my pelvis not my neck... ha ha.

whimsi I can see myself having the same approach to physio as you as I jsut can't be bothered with a big battle. If I had the sort of job I could scale down a bit I would be ok I think. Going to speak to my boss/occi health about that next week. Wondering if I could cut down my hours without losing any money (ha ha - doesn't everyone??) but if its that or go off sick I think its better?

I'm, so excited about all these babies coming. Can you tell I don't have any children??

Name change. xx

Hi mrsS private physio and osteo is beyond me too, that's why I was wondering what the situation is if you're prepared to travel to a not so near nhs one who is experienced in manipulation. Obviously that depends on whether there's anyone more experienced anywhere near you, whether you believe it's worth it and whether it's actually allowed to go to a different one on the nhs. All I know is that from 20 to about 32weeks I felt so much better for a week or so after I'd been straightened out. And it only hurts as much as it does to lie on that couch. I've got to see the mw tomorrow morning and I've got to somehow get onto that couch.

pleased to report DH that was meant to be out tonight but he's come home instead so at least i didn't need to lug DS's bags out of the car so he could go to bed tonight. Just the thought of walking to the car at the moment would be enough of a mission

i have to say after my whole back thing, seeing a private physio was the best thing i could have done. cost a fortune (£50 for half hour with an hour's drive each way) but was so worth it. In three sessions i went from hobbling around with a stick to being able to walk normally

LooLOO I am totally prepared to travel, but not sure how I would go about getting different physio? I know on the NHS you are able to choose when and where to be treated, but who would I ask? I mean, it's like saying the physio I have seen doesnt know what they are on about. And I don't know if the midwife would even know how to refer me to somewhere else... I suppose the GP would though?? I think I will give the belt a bit of a chance first though. Even though I know this isnt going to be a magic fix and I KNOW i will either need to get more help or give up work or end up on crutches or all of the above.

Anyway, enough of a moan, sorry guys

MrsM glad DH is helping you out.

Wish me luck for my 12 hour day at work tomorrow!!!

Hi everyone, just been to see the mw and babyLL's head is engaged 2/5 which is good as so were the other DC at this stage. Also found out that she only lives 10 mins away which is great if I have a homebirth on her shift as I won't worry too much about bothering her early. Also she's coming to my house for the other appts so I never have to wriggle onto her horrid couch again.Or sit on a horrid plastic chair while I'm waiting.

Hope you're feeling better mrsM.

mrsS I don't know how you go about finding out about NHS physios and how experienced they are in treating spd. Maybe the big teaching hospitals are better but mine's quite small(we're down on the south coast) and I guess it's just luck that she works there.The problem about going private is that I'd have wanted to se the physio every week or so as it made me feel so much better and it could really add up!Why not do a new MN thread and ask if anyone's had great treatment in your area? Not very anonymous but you could always name change!But see how the belt works for a bit. I'm sure if you want crutches you just need to phone up and ask.Good luck with your 12 hour day!

Thinking of you KT and sending lots of luck.

again ladies sorry for no proper replies. eventually got the first prostiglandin in at 6pm last night. had lots of strong painful contractions but they weren't actually doing anything! eventually after a horrible internal examination that made me bleed and checking baby was ok and nothing was wrong i got some pethidine at 2am! some 5minute slots of sleep and the contractions died down by about 6am. saw the drs this morning and had another prostiglandin at 10 and i think they're going to put another one in no matter what at 4pm to see how far we can get. only managed 1cm dilation so far though! lets hope im too busy having the baby to come back until its all done!

OOOOH! Poor you kt. Hope things speed up a bit for you. Hugs.

poor you kt. hope the next lot work out ok. After 2 home births, I've yet to be on the receiving end of an internal, but they don't sound too nice!

I woke up at midnight last night and had contractions for 2 hours, which then stopped. Then I stayed awake for another 2 hours willing them back again. no good. I have no control over my body!

I can't eat any more pineapple or i'll pop!

lots of luck.

Maybe that's how the pineapple works whimsi, you eat so much that you pop!

Awww kt thats rubbish. I hope the last prostaglandin has either worked or they have decided to c-section you. Either way I hope you and little one are doing well.

whimsi - don't pop,... all that pineapple will make terrible mess!! You are all going to leave me soon with having your babies and all!!!

LooLOO - I have emailed the physio at my work to see if they have any experience in dealing with SPD. If not I might speak to one of the modwives there to see if there is someone I can get referred to. The hospital I work in in a big teaching one but the one I am under for my antenatal care isn't so big. The belt has definately helped today as I can still actually move despite a 12 hour day! Woo hoo!

Anyhoo,... best wishes for lots of sleep girls, except you kt - best wishes for lots of baby!!

does anyone else's DP/DH not understand? i've had a big argument with mine this morning because he told me I can't cope. erm yes, I agree, I can't and him swanning off for one day every weekend (for his hobby) isn't going to help. But my mentioning that was of course me being unreasonable

sorry, just feeling really pissed off with everything today and his comments haven't helped. in fact, that's not true, when i first got up this morning i wasn't feeling too bad. DH waking up changed the mood though FFS...

MrsS... really pleased the belt's helping you but i hope you're taking it easy today

kt... i really hope things are moving in the right direction now

MrsM Don't be sorry for having a moan,... we all know where you are coming from. However understanding our DHs are I'm sure there is a little tiny part of them that wonders if we are hamming it up just a little bit. I guess if they aren't the ones feeling it they just can't understand. I am not making any excuses, it is half his problem after all!! Can you do something nice to treat yourself? Book for a massage or a pedicure or something??

The belt has been great today but I think thats cos I have done nothing strenuous at all. Still, it's an improvement.

kt - I am hoping no news is good news and you are far too busy to update on MN.

DVD and egg and chips tonight - oooh, what a rock and roll life I lead.