Are your children’s vaccines up to date?

Set a reminder

Please or to access all these features

Pregnancy

Talk about every stage of pregnancy, from early symptoms to preparing for birth.

SPD Sofa - support and advice offered at no extra charge!

1000 replies

pumpkinpureeandghostlypearls · 16/10/2009 09:39

I am suffering SPD (for the second time) and just need to vent without driving everyone else on my pregnancy thread mental. Not that they aren't supportive but I still have 20 weeks to go and I don't want to ruin their pregnancies by talking about mine!

Please come and join me so I don't feel so alone, and feel free to share tips if you have any....

OP posts:
Are your children’s vaccines up to date?
Tantalooni · 01/01/2010 23:04

Hi All,
Just found this site after doing a search for SPD. Having read all your comments I know I am not alone! I am 13.5 weeks with my third baby and am already on crutches and have been given a belt to wear. The belt I got seems to cut into me and make me sore - I think this is because I am on the larger side and the "rolls of fat" make it even more uncomfortable.

Does anyone have any advice with housing needs? I live in a 2nd floor HA flat and am finding the stairs increasingly difficult. Does anyone know how I can get help to be moved? (we will need to be moved once the baby comes as we will be overcrowded).

fetaqueen · 02/01/2010 22:50

Hello

No ones been here for a bit.

Tantalooni welcome and sorry to see you so early on in your pregnancy.

Do you have a good support network.. start to tell people now whats up and get people lined up to help you... Its helped to keep me sain.

If you're struggling with the support bands.. get some of my super big pants in Mothercare and join our club!!

To be brutally honest with SPD being such a temporary thing you get very little help from anyone.. I am 36 weeks pregnant and my midwife hasnt even managed to do a home visit for me...

Sorry to be depressing.. however we are all here for each other.

xx

pureeandpearls · 03/01/2010 11:34

Welcome Tantalooni, and I second all that FetaQueen has said. I'm having better luck with MW who do all my appointments at home. (Perhaps you could speak to them about your housing needs?)But it's still hard and as a temporary condition (though there was a lady on early in the thread who has had it for 13 years.....scary!) you get very little in the way of help. If you have requested a new flat anyway because you need more space, maybe mentioning the SPD LOTS will help speed things up?

Big congrats to CTOFN. fabulous name. Sorry the C-section proved nightmarish but great that you are finally out of SPD hell!! Do you love your little girl? I know quite a few of us have been worried about how we'll feel when our babies finally arrive.

Hello all- stuck on the sofa with ice block wedged between my thighs- somehow thrush I had last week has flared up and I'm in agony (MW coming on Tues though so they can 'inspect me!'). Everyone has left the house though so I've ordered a whole bunch of stuff for hospital bag/baby/me at Boots.com, and am really focusing on getting hospital bag done. i have scan on 22nd to check placenta and consultant on 25th (35 weeks) when I will beg and plead for an early induction. I am soooooooooo readyu ( and very jealous of 7DW who is having her baby on day of my appt!)

Biug smooches to you all [flumps cushions on SPD sofa!!]

7dayweekend · 03/01/2010 13:12

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

pureeandpearls · 04/01/2010 08:55

7DW- so sorry about your pain. Had to laugh at SPD bed though. Last time DH actually gave up trying to sleep in bed with me and the pillows and decamped to the guest room. He would this time as well were it not for the brother-who-outstayed-his-welcome! Good luck today- the end is nigh xxxx

mumandlovingit · 04/01/2010 09:58

im 18 weeks today and starting to get spd. i had it in my last pregnancy but further on. all they did for me then was give me codeine. ive gone to mothercare and bought a nexcare support belt so hopefully that will help me quite a bit. i havent got an appointment with midiwfe/consultant for 2 weeks and i go back to work tomorrow so cant have anymore time off really, ive got 3 days with time off in two weeks already in january so i dont want to push my luck and take more time off to go and see the midiwfe about the spd unless really necessary. im leaving work at 27 weeks i think so that once im alot bigger i can concentrate on resting and not accounts.

dp is bending to get things for me and im not doing anything strenuous, it just plays up off and on.

cant wait to see baby on the scan in two weeks. havent heard the heartbeat since 16 weeks and had alot of pain through ligaments etc since then and have only felt the odd few flutters from the baby so want reassurance from the scan that things are going well. cant wait until little one decided to start kicking etc. i will know he/she is ok then.

im supposed to be getting induced at 37 weeks if the baby isnt too big or in an awkward position so fingers crossed the spd wont hinder that. they want to epidural me due to previous problems so that is anything goes wrong they can c section me straight away. someone mentioned they wont do an epidural if youve got spd. has anyone else heard this? if that is the case they will have to c section me. they wont let me go into labour naturally.

i hope you're all not feeling too bad today xx

Ponymum · 04/01/2010 13:53

Hi Mumandlovingit. You don't need to take time off work to attend midwife appts. Your employer has to give you paid time off to attend all antenatal appts. HTH.

The only reason I can think of for not having an epidural with SPD is the danger of you moving beyond your pain limits as you won't be able to feel it, but this can be overcome by good briefing and very firm birth plan notes. I had an elective c-s last time (because of the SPD). At the time I thought that an epidural and a spinal were the same thing, but apparently not. Whatever it was, I had one of them, and gave strict instructions to the surgical team not to move my legs apart during the operation!

7dayweekend - So sorry to hear about your pain. I hope the appointment today goes well and hopefully this will all be over very soon.

fetaqueen · 04/01/2010 14:53

Afternoon All..

Just popped in to see how 7DW weekend got on at her appointment.Hope it went well and you are feeling a bit happier.

Ponymum - Im due to have an elective c -section at the end of the month... bloody good point about telling them about moving my legs. As no one seems to care or give me any decent advise (HP Wise) Im glad of all the advise I can get on here... anything else you would recomend?

My poor DH also has litle room in the bed.. but I dont want to move him out cuz I often need his assistance in turning over etc... Bless him. Ive got so many pilows and not enough matching pillow cases lol.

Mumandlovingit.. can I ask why you are getting induced at 37 weeks? Is it the SPD?

ugs to you all from my bed!!

pureeandpearls · 04/01/2010 15:13

Hugs back atcha feta!!

at mumandlovingit. How did you swing a 37 week induction??? I'd love one but consultant said not before 38 weeks. Haven't ever heard of being refused an epidural. Mine was prebooked last time by consultant. Agree with Ponymum re: time off though. Regardless of the reason for your mw appt you have a legal right to go without having to take time off.

Ponymum (and others with c-section experience) I'm considering elective c-section as an option. The pain is just getting ridiculous. How was your recovery last time? I worry that the SPD will slow it etc, and I have a very active DD.....

Jayfer · 04/01/2010 15:24

Hey can I ask a daft question?
I've got terrible pain in my groin on the left side, its making my leg and bum ache like crazy. I haven't yet found a comfortable position and it kept me awake last night. Currently sat on sofa with hot water bottle clamped between my legs trying to ease it. I spoke to a GP this morning who said it was probably preg related, relaxing ligaments etc but I've also got arthritis which is playing up because of lack of meds. The GP is getting my rhuemy consultant to see me but if the problem in my groin is preg related he's not going to be able to help much. Its very easy for the docs to relate any prob to the arthritis rather than think outside the box as it were.

Do any of you learned ladies think it may be SPD?

CantThinkofFunnyName · 04/01/2010 16:00

Hello ladies. I didn't want to just have my bub and disappear and leave you all! Although, I do have to say, at the moment, that I don't appear to have any real SPD problems and did leave my crutches at the hospital, in a positive frame of mind! I am walking a little hunched and really have trouble bending over to feet/legs and most particularly on one side more than the other - but then again, I am only on Day 6 post caesarean so I think any discomfort/pain I feel is actually due to the scar and that kind of drawing feeling you get down below rather than the very precise pain you get with SPD.

There were a couple of questions on here about what complications I encountered with the c/s and whether SPD affects the c/s at all. I'm going to post my "birth story" here - so apologies for it being a long post but essentially SPD didn't affect it at all APART FROM the first dose of a particular painkiller I was supposed to have as a suppository. Because of being very fresh out of c/s, not having full quote of pain relief during the op and the SPD there was no way I was able to roll onto my side to allow them to insert it! However, that alone, did hamper my recovery for 24 hours...

So, I was the first one to be taken to theatre on 29/12/09 and after we were gowned up, relevant introductions made, forms signed, scans done and confirmed that the baby was back to lying in transverse, the anaesthetist tried to put canula in hand. I should have known at that point things would go wrong as that didn't quite work out and ended up swapping to the other hand. The original hand still hurts like buggary and is black from side to side!

Once the canula was in hand, the surgeon came in and announced they had an emergency to attend so could the anaesthetist not start the spinal. Fair enough...

1.5 hours later, the anaesthetist came back and started on the epidural. 1st attempt didn't work; 2nd attempt didn't work; 3rd attempt didn't work... it was due to the position baby was in... talk started of a general anaesthetic. I couldn't move or curl my body any more forward than I was because baby was actively changing position from transverse to cephalic whilst they were trying to apply to epidural! Anyway, they got there on the 4th attempt and by that point I think I was pretty scared and het up.

Enter all other medics and so starts the fun. My blood pressure has been really good throughout the pg but because of an artery dissection a year ago, they really didn't want my BP to go too high. Well my BP literally went from one end of the scale to the other repeatedly and I was continually being pumped with different medications to rectify the situation. I went "unconscious" several times and I can tell you it is the most awful feeling, lying on the theatre table feeling yourself slipping away and knowing that is a pretty bad thing to happen. My poor DH. Each time we managed to get back on track and DH and I breathed through the "faint" feelings, managing to get enough oxygen in, together with the medications to pull out of the BP floor hitters.

Enter the world Olivia Iris Evans at 12:51pm and they pretty much threw her on top of my head (in a very nice way I must add) so that I could see her at which point I started to bawl. So did DH and he then followed the midwife into recovery and managed to photograph, video camera etc the rest of the procedure with her for me. We were so overwhelmed to have a little girl.

Meanwhile, the surgeon performed my sterilisation which was straightforward enough, but were telling me that for some reason I had loads of engorged blood vessels with clots that were probably the reason for my baby's unstable lie throughout the latter stages of the pregnancy. They suctioned out the blood clots and I managed to lose 1200ml (think that's about 2.5 pints of blood) in the process.

Entering the theatre then was the delivery suite lead midwife asking the surgeon for an estimate on blood loss so that she could complete her forms and get off home early! The surgeon replied that she would get her figures when she was finished - so the mw asked her to hurry up!!! I piped up DON'T YOU DARE! PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU DO THE JOB SLOWLY AND CAREFULLY! F*ing cheek. The surgeon went mad I can tell you . Surgeon also made the mw come and apologise to me later and told me that she (the surgeon) had made an official complaint about the mw - she was furious with her).

So into recovery we went and stayed there for hours because some eejit had taken a child into the postnatal ward with chicken pox. So they had to close half the ward down and fumigate before they could take any new patients in. This has the knock on effect of my children not being able to have a proper visit with me and their new baby sister because we were still in the recovery area .

Because of the amount of blood loss, I apparently didn't get the whole amount of morphine I was due - something to do with probably needing a blood transfusion - and as a consequence every staff member I encountered for the next 24 hours seemed to forget to give me one form of pain relief or another. Don't get me wrong, I did get some co-dydramol . You can imagine just how
far that got me after a major operation .

Catheter came out Wed am, couldn't stand up to get to WC/shower room due to pain. They took me there in a wheelchair and I managed to at least brush my teeth, throw a bit of water on my face and try to pass urine.

Passed out and vomitted Wednesday afternooon and finally got a shot of morphine and a visit from a doctor who rectified pain
control measures which meant that Thursday am was the first time where I started to feel on planet earth.

Had a lovely restful day in hospital on Xmas Eve with only the kids coming to visit in the evening (at my request) and delivering me a wonderful picnic hamper of the softests ripest and bluest cheeses for my NYE feast! Three new complications to hit were air/gas trapped in the stomach - enter oodles of peppermint tea to break it down - I won't even go into the detail on that one; a discovered allergy to surgical stockings and more swelling/oedema on my feet and legs. The swelling escalated to my thighs, is still there and I truly look like tree trunk woman. The staff told me that it is quite normal as the bodies fluid no longer has the placenta to travel to and hence has nowhere to go until the hormones correct themselves - usually up to 6 weeks post birth

So, I came home Friday afternoon (New Year's Day), my biggest maternity clothes which were my tried and trusted legging are cutting in to my tree trunk legs. Flip flops are the only footwear that goes anywhere near my hideous feet and on Friday I also had to contend with the dreaded POST PARTUM POO.... 10 hours after attempting to start the procedure, I finished it .

On a very positive note, I needn't have worried that I might have bonding issues with my DC due to awful pg - I fell in love with her totally and completely from the moment I set my eyes on her. Indeed, far more than I did with my previous 2 DCs. It's an amazing feeling. She just totally melts my heart.

Now I'm looking forward to doing nothing for the next weeks in my "c/s recovery" other than cuddling and loving my newborn daughter aaaaahhhhh.

There is light at the end of the tunnel. I didn't have a great c/s experience BUT it was not related to SPD at all. The only advice I would give is try to make sure someone writes you up for an alternative to DICLOFENAC SUPPOSITORY on the first night. That was the only SPD hindrance - but did set me back for a few hours.

Apologies again for the long post.
x

7dayweekend · 04/01/2010 20:04

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

Ponymum · 04/01/2010 20:35

CTOFN Thanks so much for posting your birth story. So glad you have bonded with your DD so well. I had a really strong bond immediately with my DD after the c-s too. I was so relieved and totally in love. I think I had a much better experience in the operation though. I had some panic moments during the anaesthetic but otherwise I think I was verty lucky. I think they also put the suppository in before I left theatre. Enjoy your lovely daughter and all the best for the recovery.

feta I would suggest you are as organised and assertive as possible prior to the big day. I wrote really detailed notes about exactly what movements I could and couldn't do, what I needed help with, etc. Then I arranged to meet with the head of midwifery a couple of weeks prior to go through the notes with her, and also went through the notes with the surgeon before the operation. After the operation my DH was there all through the day to assist me, and I stressed how much help I would need at night to care for DD or go to the loo. Luckily they decided of their own accord to put me in a private side room with ensuite - it was a godsend! I was under really strict physio care and the physio came to see me within hours of the operation and gave instructions that I should stay as still as possible for 48 hours, and only then get up and start walking. This is the approach taken by the SPD team at this hospital and as I understand they have had a lot of success with it. So I requested the catheter stay in for the first 24 hours, then when I needed to get up I got assistance to get into the wheelchair and back into bed. If I think of anything else that might help I'll post it.

puree I had absolutely brilliant recovery from the c-s. It was definitely the right choice for me. The usual warnings about 6 weeks recovery from c-s were kind of meaningless when I was going to be more restricted by the SPD recovery anyway! I think the recovery from both was in a way complimentary - gentle walking, no heavy lifting, etc. But I didn't have a toddler to deal with. That's kind of what I am trying to get my head around this time around. Perhaps I'll be looking for tips from you if you decide to go that way.

7DW So glad you have some action now. The sooner you are out of this pain the better.

sweetkitty · 04/01/2010 20:59

hi ladies first update, SPD starting to kick in big time, think I have been able to stave it off with moving very little but it's getting worse each day now, stairs getting trickier too, I suffer more around the back in my sacro-iliac joint and more on the right side so tend to compensate by standing with my weight on my left which is bad I know. Driving also sore when you come on and off the brake.

I hate when people say "oh but it will all be worth it and you haven't got long now" when you are in a lot of pain every day seems long. This is my fourth baby and the fourth time I have had SPD, a glutton I know and yes they are so worth it but doesn't make it any easier at the time.

CTOAFN - congrats on the birth of Olivia, may the SPD be long gone and never come back. What a birth story poor you, enjoy your doing nothing time with your new girl you deserve it.

7DW - I think you are doing the right thing, only someone so immobilised in pain knows that every day you are pregnant is a lifetime, you have no quality of life right now better to get her out and start living again. I begged the MW for an induction once last time but I don't think she thought I was serious. I was still able to hobble a bit and should have been on crutches but wouldn't have them (had 3 and 2 yo) so I think she thought I was coping. I am lucky in that I have fast labours and almost immediately afterwards the pain goes. Last one was 1h 35 m from "DP waters have just gone" to baby out. I laboured on my side in the foetal position only turning onto my back when she crawled out (I say crawled as I did not push at all). Only thing is after months of hobbling and not walking I was very stiff and unfit and my muscles all felt so sore but small price to pay.

7dayweekend · 04/01/2010 22:44

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

pureeandpearls · 05/01/2010 14:34

sweetkitty- sorry to hear it's getting tough. I was banned from driving by cons. at 28 weeks even though we have an automatic. With crutches and ice, I can't get out of the house at all now, which sucks. Just had MW round and burst into tears on her.....I was the same as 7DW but have given up putting a brave face on it now. I cannot wait for 38 weeks!!

Getting a walking frame this week so know I am marginally better off that the wheelchairers amongst us, but God I hate feeling so f@cking old.

[waves to all then goes off to get hair dyed old-lady purple...]

sweetkitty · 05/01/2010 15:50

I honestly don't know you you wheelchair lot cope with it, but I suppose like everything else theres no choice. I feel fortunate I can still walk even though it's slow and painful. The school run was fun this afternoon, the snow and ice, holding DD2's hand whilst carrying DD3.

Might think about a TENS, do you think it would work on pain inside your bum basically? Last time the physio told me that my whole pelvis was unstable and it was an inch "up" on the right hand side and every time she tried to correct it, it just popped back as my ligaments are so soft, she signed me off saying the only treatment was delivery so I am not even going to bother this time. Most of my pain is on the right coming round both hips, in my bum then later on across the front.

I am really not surprised at you both crying at the MWs and begging for 38 weeks.

7dayweekend · 05/01/2010 18:26

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

sweetkitty · 05/01/2010 18:58

Oh 7DW poor you

Right do a countdown, number of days and hours to DDay (delivery day) then cross off the hours

fetaqueen · 05/01/2010 20:53

Happy Evening to you all

Is the snow causing anyone else caos?

Im unable to look after my DD so my dad has spent half of the day being stuck in traffic trying to come across to help me.. feel very guilty.

Think if the snow continues I may be left on my own a bi.. which scares me. DH works an hour away but with the snow he could take a lot longer geting back. I can't drive.. or walk so will be truly stuck...

7DW - Sending lots and lots of love... Im starting to feel that although I have a short time left it still feels like forever just because things are getting worse and worse.

Sending love to you all.

mampam · 05/01/2010 21:37

Hi all, just giving a quick update.

I still haven't heard anything re: Physio appointment. Going to GP in the morning to see if I can get her to gee things up a bit and also update my sick note. Was supposed to go back to work today but there is no way I can in this pain.

Been a bit sad over the weekend as we've had lovely weather, sunny and crisp (live in south Devon so no snow here) and I've really wanted to go out for a walk but there's no point even attempting it really.

Good luck 7DW. Think I might follow your example and get lots of pillows, anything for a more comfy night!

7dayweekend · 05/01/2010 21:51

This reply has been deleted

Message withdrawn at poster's request.

mampam · 06/01/2010 10:52

7DW I'm not as hot as you but I have been sweating quite a bit even when I'm feeling cold I still sweat, bit strange I thought but maybe it is a pregnancy thing???

pureeandpearls · 06/01/2010 11:56

I get hot but only in bed- I think it's all the pillows

mampam · 06/01/2010 12:51

Been to the doctors this morning. Because we've miraculously had a light dusting of snow (down here on the South Devon Coast we very rarely see snow) we couldn't get the car off our steep drive so I had to walk over to the surgery. It's only about a 3 minute walk but it's still agony.

GP has signed me off work for another 3 weeks and said hopefully in that time I will see the Physio and then we can discuss where we go from here.

She later phoned me to say she'd been having a route around and had discovered this website. I've not come across it before and it looks quite helpful.

Please create an account

To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account.

This thread is not accepting new messages.