Totally's GRADS...lets handhold thru this....

[boodleboot]

Ok girls....time to get started....

lee stressy amyboo totally

and of course any other ladies who have recently had a Big Scary Fat Positive and will now literally be counting the days to healthy babe in arms, welcome y'all

i have no idea how i am going to make it but i know that i will need handholding....and knowing lots of you already i know you will too ha ha

{Totally's conception thread got me thus far with lots of handholding and i love them for that....}

BRING ON THE BABIES.....

Thanks for your lovely reassuring words ladies. Your post almost made me cry sunny you're so right about the whole not thinking my body will do anything good - that's exactly how I feel.

Am going to go to doc tomorrow I think as that's when the nice lady I usually see is on. Am not sure it will get me anywhere but at least I can make the point.

Welcome littleone this is so much better than the large scary threads and we all know what it's like to worry and not be able to concentrate.

afternoon all...

well not very reassured at all by scan. it proved inconclusive, ie it couldn rule out ectopic entirely. The report that they have given me to take away incase pain worsens and have to go to AE says the scan showed 'two small echolucent areas of 3mm'. 'These' may represent a very early gestation sac of 4 weeks. They did identify that i have a cyst on my left ovary which is prob giving me the pain. Doc said cyst is sign of early pregnancy and uterus lining has thickened which is also good sign.

i think basically it was too early for them to say anything conclusively. You know hospitals, they won't commit and get your hopes up {or down depending on situation...} They have given me blood tests and will see if the hormones have doubled on thurs then advancing preg confirmed, if dips, miscarraige on way, if only gone up slightly the ectopic likely. He also gave me internal examination and lack of tenderness in the normal ectopic places and no mass of fluid also give me hope....

i think either it will be a failed pregnancy or all will be ok....i don't personally think it is ectopic...

what do you think of that then? [hmmm]

Sorry not more reassuring news Boodle - hope all is well.

My day is super-crappy - I had brown discharge this morning when I woke up - nothing since but have been here twice before and have the proverbial t-shirt. Dropped dd off for her first day in Reception to find out that she isn't with any of her friends and completely shamed myself by crying in the playground - now everyone thinks I am some strange hysterical woman. Phoned EPAU and have a scan booked for Mon (though they weren't keen I have to say - why does nobody take it at face value that I have conceived - "are you sure your pregnant?" Of course I bloody am!)I can't face the thought of another missed m/c - I think this is it for me - I shall just consider myself lucky to have my 2 lovely girls.

Finally told my Mum in floods of hysterical tears - she still had to say "well I think you should take this as a sign...." ARGGGHHHHH!

Sorry I am just so unbelievably fucked off.

boodle..try not to worry about the scan results..before about 5.5 weeks I think all they can see is a sac..and before 5 weeks unlikely to see anything at all..also I have discovered...after my last "mole" scare..that HCG does not always double in 48 hours, it can take 72 hours and in about 10-15% of normal pregnancies levels do not escalate in 48-72 hours..so try not to panic too much if levels do not appear to have exactly doubled..its not an exact science and our bodies dont all conform to text books

Im off to get my HCG checked again in about an hour..dont know if its doubled..but today the nausea has hit..so Im munching my way through dairylea cheese strips to try and keep it at bay

Hi, well I finally made it over from the m/c thread but still not really daring to believe it is real yet. Have a gp appointment on Friday morning but no symptoms at all yet.

Hope you are all well although reading the thread so far it seems like this bit will be just as traumatic as getting here in the first place! M/c was my first pregnancy so didn't know what symptoms I should be looking for or what to expect so didn't worry at all until it all went wrong - such a different experience this time!

However on the basis of my magpie predictions (on other thread) I opened the back door when I got home this evening and three magpies flew right past my head, really low - so now I'm wondering if three for a girl might be a good sign

Hello all
Oh, what a mixed bag of news. Welcome and big congrats to Becky and LittleOneMum - come and join the rollercoaster. One day at a time, ladies, one day at a time. Let's hope today is a good one.
Boodle I'm sorry your scan was not conclusive, but for now it sounds like a waiting game - the scariest game of all. You have cause for great hope, by the sounds of it, so cling on to that and try to banish the negative. Rest and be good to yourself.
Jacanne sorry you are having a crappy time. It's always at the most inappropriate times that we find ourselves crying, I find. Put me in my bedroom and I can't shed a tear, but stick me on the tube / in the office and I can cry for Britain. Sorry your LO is without her pals; hope she makes some new ones soon. And v insensitive of your mother to say that. Mine too says some clangers sometimes, which is why I've decided not to tell her a single thing until the 12 week scan (pray God I get to that stage). Brown discharge is okay though, no? I had a bit with DD in the early weeks.
Stressy how are you today? Let us know how you get on at the dr.
Amy thanks for the exercise advice. You sound superfit - good on ya. Swimming is v good for beans, I've heard. I only do it once a year on holiday, but hey ho. It's nice to keep fit instead of waking up nine months from now like a big fat cabbage (hmm, sounds a more likely scenario for me!)
Nothing to report here - didn't feel pg yesterday, got worried, but felt v nauseous when I opened the dishwasher this morning so feel happier now. Hilarious that a bout of nausea should cheer me up, but such is the strange life of the post mc pg lady. Hello to everyone else.

well got my 3rd lot of HCG levels back and they havent exactly doubled..theyve gone from 3600 to 6300, but the EPU nurse didnt seem concerned and said they have risen significantly..she said they are happy to leave me until monday for a scan..dont feel quite confident now though...woke up this morning feeling sick as a dog..and I can smell everything..ewww

Memory - sounds like things are going well for you. Most mornings the smell of the fridge alone is enough to make me feel sick. It always smells of butter. Yuk.

Fingers crossed that your magpie predictions are indeed a good sign becky sunnydale - I'm not sure that I'm superfit, but I like the relaxing feeling I get from swimming. It empties my head nicely after a day at work, and makes me feel very zen. Hopefully it has the same effect on the bean!

Well, anyway, all good news from me. I just had another gynae appointment. Am officially now 10+5. Bean had grown from 2.2cm 2 weeks ago to 4.1cm today! Spot on the right size for my dates, which is great. We saw a good strong heartbeat again, and the gynae reackoned the nuchal fold looked OK, but he can't tell for definite until he measures at my next appointment. We saw all four limbs (bean even crossed his/her legs at one point) and he/she wiggled away quite happily. It's a big relief, but the biggest step for me and DH will be my next appointment in 2 weeks' time, as that was the moment we found out about my mmc last time. Gynae seemed very pleased though and said bean was excellent and it was all good. Fingers crossed it carries on that way

Sorry to hear scan was inconclusive boodle. If it's any consolation, I had a mate in exactly you're situation (she's as pg as I should be ) she went for early scan thinking she was futher gone than she was, with horrendous one sided pain, to be told she was barely 5 weeks gone and had a cyst, which was causing the pain. All they could see was a sac. She waited two weeks for another scan (still in pain) was pushed forward almost a week (i.e told she was 7.5 by that stage and saw a hb). Will they be scanning again soon?

Jacanne so sorry to hear you had a crap day. I too cry in the most public and inconvenient places - crappy school organisation by the sounds of it though. Don't worry LO will make good new friends in class - they're so adaptable at this age.

Am off to docs this pm so will update later -am preparing myself for a good rant!

Apart from being earth-shatteringly exhausted - still don't feel pg. I'm with you becky I don't feel like a grad either yet and am supposed to be 6+3. Won't believe it until am size of house (which I will be!) and about to drop I reckon.

stressy thanks for that - as long as my hormone levels have doubled or near bout doubled {ie preg is progressing} then they will rescan me in 10 days from tomorrow.

i am still confused by it only being 4 week size sac altho it would have been 4 weeks ago that conception would have happened. just going to have to wait and see tomorr what bloods say. fingers crossed.....i am very nervous and really cannot bear the thought that this pregnancy might have failed...

my symptoms have completely stopped my boobs feel normal as in pre pregnancy normal..and the sickness has completely stopped..all in the last couple of hours..at 3 o clock I was having to suck on travel sweets to stop the contant nausea and was retching..and now its completely stopped..Im a little scared..surely pregnancy symptoms dont stop that quickly if the pregnancy fails?? my HCG has been going up but Im wondering if its dropped today..

Memorylapse - mine took about 2 weeks to stop after I had my last m/c. I had a scan at 8 weeks because of a bleed and was told all was fine and the 2 weeks following I felt absolutely terrible - took that to mean all was well when in fact the pregnancy ended later that same day as far as measurements showed - I am sure you wouldn't just lose them like that - my boobs are tender at different times in the day and ms doesn't last all day with everyone.

boodle try not to worry (rich coming from me, I know!) when I saw a consultant last time he said early pg was notorious for giving inaccurate measurements etc and all they can do is guesstimate really. See what your hcg levels do and take it from there.

Sorry to hear you're worried memory I've barely had any symptoms at all and the ones I do have I reckon are just because I'm focussing on it so much. Of course I don't know whether everything's ok in my case this time but I do remember that with ds pg my symptoms would come and go completely at random times. It may come back same time tomorrow - I doubt hormone levels stay same throughout the day and your body might just be getting used to it too. Big hugs to you and boodle.

Well, went to docs - so much for preparing for a rant - I turned into a complete wet doormat and when she said "sorry, I can't refer you for anything earlier than 12 weeks unless you have pain or bleeding" I just said "ok, thank you for your time" what a chump!!! So back to paying £140. Still, hopefully will be worth it and either way I'd want to know as far in advance as possible.

sadly it looks like the end of the road for me as Ive started to bleed

Oh babe - am so sorry to hear that . Should you get yourself to doc / epau or similar for a scan just in case? All may not be lost. Big big hugs. Am thinking of you. xx

oh memory - it might be nothing more sinister than some spotting....are you having any pains or anything?

Im going to go to the epu tomorrow..phoned the ward tonight and the nurse said..what do you want us to do?..I was a bit taken a back and she said well if you are miscarrying there is nothing we can do, I appreciate that..but I suppose I would like it confirmed with a scan

sweets, remember it aint over til its over....try not to drive yourself too mad tonight and just get up there first thing in the morning and demand to be scanned {in a polite way of course}

If you start being in lots of pain then get yourself straight into AE and let them deal with it appropriately.

i am really really really praying for you and your bean.

memory please don't give up hope, I have been bleeding on and off all the way through, the first time I really thought it was game over but saw a little heartbeat and they couldn't explain the bleeding and each time I have been back due to bleeding they have found everything is fine.......

Everyone on here is thinking of you and holding out our hands.....let us all know how you get on tomorrow and at that nurse you spoke to........

Memory don't give up yet - it may well all be fine, esp if you wake up tomorrow and no more blood. Wishing you all the best for a peaceful night and a good, happy resolution tomorrow. Big hugs

Memory - like hoops said, please don't give up. I had bright red bleeding and discomfort at 8+5 and had an emergency scan and everything was fine and I'm now at 10+5 with no bleeding since. Gynae couldn't find any reason for the bleed either. Thinking of you for the scan today and crossing every available digit.

Hi Memory. Bleeding's common in the first 12 weeks so don't give up just yet. My friend had a heavy bleed at 6 weeks and she had her little boy the other way. I'm hoping for the best for you.

Boodle- hope you're doing ok.

Well I've been in hospital last few days

I had a hideous headache, couldn't open my eyes and couldn't stop being sick. GP said she wasn't happy with the diagnosis of 'migraine' and hospital docs not happy that it had gone on for 2 weeks. I had lots of paracetamol and it felt a little better after a while, but still not great. But I wanted to go home. So I did.

Midwife checked baby's heartbeat and it's good but she wouldn't scan me Got very bad stretching pains at the moment, ligaments and all that.

Neighbours playing music loud every night and keep going on and on at us to get environmental health out because they're filthy people and have mice and now they've managed to get through to our loft. They fuss over nothing all the time. They got environmental health and the mice are now dead but they're adament we should have to pay to get them out too. We work and they don't, so we're never in for environmental health to come round. They start shouting about this last night when I'd just got home from hospital. Plus they have to know every little detail of our lives. I'm at my wits end. Going to the docs today to see if they'll consider putting me back on my PND tablets.

Hope everyone's ok. Xx

Blimey that sounds awful totally. Hope you're doing OK now? Your neighbours sound like a nightmare as well. Can't you call out the police if they're making noise late at night?

well the bleeding stopped after half an hour..phoned the epu this morning and they wouldnt see me, said there was no point in scanning me..on my insistence they offered me a scan tomorrow..the epu nurse said I was worrying over nothing and that if there were no clots or cramps..it wasnt a miscarriage..but as I pointed out..it could be a mmc

Totally..so sorry to hear you have been poorly..did they check your blood pressure?
Good news that babe had a good strong heartbeat

The EPU's treatment of you makes me really memory. How can they be so insensitive to not realise that in these circumstances you really need a scan. Glad you pushed them to scan you tomorrow though. Try not to worry too much until then (easier said than done I know....)