The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

Mowmi - fantastic news!

Joy27 glad you are feeling crap

Thandeka I hope your day was better today

Jardins how are your children feeling? and you how are you?

All good here. Just counting the days until Sunday when we have our first scan.

Mowmi that is brilliant! Hurrah.

I feel dreadful so sick- and the only way I can not feel sick is to eat but then it lasts for about 10 mins then feel sick again. (haven't been sick). Am also completely and utterly shattered- My best mate who knows told me I looked dreadful and that I looked beige- YAY!. Thankfully tommorrow is sort of my work from home day although I have a few meetings in the arvo. Undecided about trying to be signed off work as in a way am only there 3 days a week and do other stuff the other two days which I would need to keep doing as its my self employed stuff- but if someone saw me working when off it would prob complicate things and also the thought of all the questions about my absence and possibly people finding out is not what I want at all. Of course if i start to feel worse than this then am going to be off work anyway! Oh and accupuncture and counselling were great. Accu lady said she saw me walk up and knew I was pregnant and she also knew before I did from my pulses- I believe her as the only two times she has asked someone else to come in to read my pulses is both times I have been pregnant but not testing positive yet! Accupuncture can be used to treat exhaustion and morning sickness but have emphatically told her not to treat it- I want and need to feel as shit as possible for as long as possiblt to feel more positive about this pregnancy. (This is based on my own experiences last time of only feeling mildly nauseous which disappeared at 7 weeks (same time as emby died)and am hoping that by feeling worse for longer may mean in my head that its going to be a keeper. But that fact isn't necessarily definitive and like we have said before loads of women with few symtoms go on to have sucessful pregnancies- so I (and all of us symptom obsessives) need to keep that in our heads!

Now have first midwife appt. booked on 18th June and scan booked on 30th- counting the days too!

Good luck for Sunday Happybump.

Oh and I told my counsellor about this thread on mumsnet (and was about to mention it by name but it seems she knows mumsnet and was scared she might find me on here!) and said how amazingly helpful it is so just thought I would share that with you. We all rule!
xxxx

Hello, have been following this for the last week and just wanted to mention about lack of syptoms.

I have a dd who is 2 and only on two occasions did I feel sick in the first trimester. Honestly. My boobs became even bigger and my sense of smell went into overdrive. That was it, I had a private scan at 9 weeks as I could not believe I was actually pregnant.

I am (deep breat for actually saying it outloud) 8 weeks and 3 days and I had a private scan today as apart from a positive preg test as AF didn't turn up I have not had any syptoms at all. Well, I have been pretty tired but that is my only one.

I know I'm not out of the woods yet (had a MC before dd) and I worried everyday when I was expecting dd but just wanted to say you really can have a healthy dc even if you do not have any MS!!

Hurrah welcome Carrielou and congrats!

And yay for you mentioning your lack of symptoms because I felt bad about mentioning symptoms going on for me when I know other ladies are worried about theirs, and now we have proof rather than anecdote on our little knitted bubble thread. Phew! :D

Just to let you know that I am out, my test today was lighter than previously, and so I am now certain that the bleeding from the last few days was a natural miscarriage. I will know for certain on tuesday when I go for my scan. I wish you all well in your pregnancies and hope that I will join you all again soon.

Oh rainbowdays- so so so sorry to hear that. Please look after yourself, thinking of you.
xxx

hi ladies good morning 2 u all rainbows sorry 2 hear ur not great.thandeka good 2 hear u feel like shit lol.im really panicking 2 day started with slight brown last nite(had a really busy day at work didnt sit down allday) still there this morning which 4 me is usually very bad sign ill know monday anyway coz have an appt with consultant just hoping it stops gonna take it easy 2day hope everyone else is good xx

Oh crumbs pinky78 thinking of you.
Fingers crossed.

Rainbow I'm so sorry

Pinky - also sorry to hear that you have had a bleed. I hope it stops and is nothing more than your bean settling in!

I wanted to post this separately as it seemed a little tactless to combine posts but I just got my blood test results back and based on HCG levels they are dating the pg at 41-42 days which is a couple of days ahead of where I thought I was so obviously I am very happy about that. I am waiting for the duty doc to call me back so I can get another test arranged to hopefully check they are going up over a 3 day period although my hunch is that they are because I have been feeling a little more pukey these last couple of days.

Hooray! I know it isn't conclusive at all but it has made me feel a hell of a lot better and able to wait for a scan at 7 or 8 weeks.

Mowni I am so happy for you that your little bean has decided to make an appearance. You must be over the moon.

Carrielou Welcome to you! Thank you for posting about how lack of symptoms isn;t necessarily a big deal. Most of us have had such horrid experiences in the past that the tendency to obsess is even greater! It helps to see reassuring posts!

Thandeka How are you feeling? Its great that you are now booked in for appointments and scans. Up until now I hadn't wanted to check in with the midwife but I think pending the 2nd blood test which I am hopefully about to arrange, I will.

Oh god I am crying again. I am just so relieved. I know my test results aren't a gurantee but they are a good start. And its further than I got last time.

Hurrah for being further along than last time! And congrats on your HCG results. I guess they may take some bloods on the 18th but that seems an awfully long time away- hmmmm now I want some HCG tests too especially in the limbo 6-8 week period to check all is well!

I have another 5 weeks to go till futher along than last time (10 weeks1day) and I can tell that as soon as I get to 6weeks 3days (good scan day of last pregnancy) I am going to be a wreck until my scan 8weeks 5days later- is going to be the longest 16days of my life! In fact was thinking about being signed off but alternatively think I may just call in sick a couple of days a week on days I don't feel I can cope (in fact hopefully I geniunely will be too sick too work!). This whole experience is such a rollercoaster (but like a really fegging slow one- just want to get to the end!)

Hello everyone, I don't like to join a thread without reading it all and getting to know everyone, but I read the first page and this sounds like just the place for me. I sneaked a look at the Due in February Thread and it scared me to death they are all so excited and I'm just pretending it isn't happening! I had an ERPC for a MMC at 11 weeks in February. I'm now 4 weeks and 5 days pregnant. I think like most people I won't get any blood tests, early scans or anything until I've had 3 miscarriages.

Anyhow, I'm off to read the thread and get to know everyone. Back shortly!

hehe it may take you a while- we have been posting an awful lot!

Welcome Graciegirl and quiet congratulations and handholding!

I have decided I am going to be the stroppy pregnant patient and demand things- so far its working well for me- just popping round to the docs to pick up a bloodwork form and will pop to the hospital to get HCG levels measured today- then I will be stroppy again in a week or two and make them do it again. Is making me feel better.

Welcome Graciegirl - nice to have you on board.

Thandeka - go with the stroppy thing. I feel so much better having had my HCG measured. I had a 2nd test this morning to check its going up. The doctor did speak to me on the phone and say (very gently actually) that we can't keep doing blood tests every 3 days and that I should be reassured by this and try to relax.

I sort of will but I am going to book a scan, privately if necessary for 8 weeks.

Hey everyone!!

Well just got back from hospital appointment had my bloods took and an internal scan and could see the sak!!

feels really wierd because last time (mc) i didnt even get to see anything coz it had already gone by the time i had my scan!! Makes it feel real this time got everything crossed that the next 8 weeks go well

Rainbow I'm really sorry to hear that. Thinking of you x

Welcome GracieGirl. Can totally understand your feelings as can all of us here. I am just over 6w now and all the way through my mw booking appointment yest I felt weird talking about the birth etc... can't feel confident about getting to that stage.

thandeka well done for pushing for tests etc. I am taking the "la la la I can't hear you" approach and trying to ignore my fears and wait. It's going.... OK.

wasabi- really pleased that you are further on than you thought. That's excellent.

I am feeling knackered today, had a headache this morning and a churny stomach. Nothing that I could definitely attribute to pregnancy though. It has been reassuring to read that some women have loads of symptoms, some none, and it doesn't necessarily mean anything drastic. I'm so glad there are others out there who can relate to my neuroses concerns.

thankyou wasabi being more than u thought is always good well done u thandekaglad things r statin 2 move along 4 u xx

Hi everyone.

Rainbow so sorry to hear your news. Hopefully you will be with us again soon. hugs for you.

Welcome and congratulations to everyone who has joined us in the last few days. Graciegirl -I agree joining the 'due feb' thread seems very scary where as this thread is warm and cosy. Im running out of fingernails thou! 4+4 today eek!

Well I went to GP yesterday. Appt was actually booked some time ago to get results of fertility tests we had done this month (Been ttc for two years). Well what do you know how fantastic it was to let her know i am pregnant! and guess what all our tests were normal which is a relief. She has given me a scan form to go in some time after 6 weeks but i think i will wait until 7 weeks.

Wow a booking at 6 weeks that early where are you?? here in south london dont have booking until 11-13 weeks.

Well hope everyone is planning a nice weekend. I am off to france for a week of relaxation and good times (and will happily avoid all that yummy wine and cheese - anything for my darling little bee!)

hope to see you all back here this time next week as well as some new recruits

Morning all- been up since 6am- feel dreadful and finally gone off coffee a bit (normally I have a cup of milky decaff to start my morning and it helped with the nausea). Had a full body massage last night (from someone qualified in pregancy massage so no abdominal or lower back or ankle points and no aromatherapy oil) it was wonderful and really helped take the stress of the week away. Having another on tuesday and then weekly until week 12 (fingers crossed we get that far this time).

In other news my Head has offered me the opportunity to keep my job on 1 day a week which is perfect as then I will have definite income then the other 4 days are for consultancy work where the income may not be fixed. Will only be teaching 6th form so no stress really (cept the marking!). Trouble is I feel bad as if this works out I will be leaving in January so they will have to replace me - but I can't tell them at the minute as it may not work out. They know about the last miscarriage so they must know I will be trying again and expect me to go off on maternity leave at some point.

Didn't manage to take my form to the hospital yesterday for the bloodtests as there wasn't time but will go on monday.

Hurrah I'mhopeful for seeing the sac.
wasabipeanut let us know how the test results go.
Joy27 Methinks those symtoms are pregnancy symptoms and anyhow won't it make you feel better if you do attribute them to pregnancy instead of thinking something else caused them?

lovelymonster you lucky lucky thing going to france for the weekend. Enjoy! I plan on sleeping for most of the weekend.

Love to everyone else.

Morning all, I have slowly worked my way through the thread this morning whilst making porridge for DS/setting up Thomas train track/ironing/doing last night's washing up!

So sorry for those who have had bad news already. Fingers crossed it won't be long for you until you're pregnant again.

I have joined the Feb thread, and I think some of you are on it, but this seems like a place where I can be neurotic chill out with people who have been there.

I have DS 2.3 and had a chemical pregnancy/early MC (not sure really which it was) in December. I have PCOS and we are stunned to find that I am pregnant again so quickly with no drugs. Took nearly 2 years to conceive DS. I suppose that's what's worrying me really, losing this pregnancy would be very upsetting but probably the most upsetting part would be thinking how long it could take to get pg again.

I am 5.6 weeks which is nothing, is it?

Basically, I am a complete headcase although holding it together very well, if you met me you'd never know!

Morning all. Jardins reporting in to let you know that I've taken 10 mins to read all your posts and it's lovely to have all your news.

Rainbowdays I am so sorry honey you are temporarily out of action. My heart goes out to you but feel quietly confident you shall be back soon.

Mowmi I am SO happy for you. What a miracle ey? It just goes to show how positive outcomes can happen even when one expects the worst. Congratulations.

Lovelymonster Bon Voyage. I wonder where in France you will be?

Dear Joy27 I agree with Thandeka! You are having pregnancy symptoms. Trust in those, please. I understand your uncertainty but it sounds just right to me.

Wasabi what fantastic news. I'm delighted for you.

Welcome to the new girls: great to have on on board our bubble-wrapped vehicle.

Finally, (I hope I haven't missed anyone) Thandeka it's been great to read your posts as usual! Suffice to say I'm with you all the way......

My best friend's been staying since Thursday morning and she is so easy going and helpful so that's great. My husband has been absent for a fortnight so I was seriously beginning to flake and need a little tlc. My two DC have basically caught big colds, nothing more. My poor DD had a music exam with a really horrible teacher who was trying to force her to sing when she had no voice whatsoever. DS had sports day yesterday and got a medal. Honestly guys, seeing his face filled with joy after such a lovely day makes everything worth it. I took him to my GP yesterday and she said that it looks like the pneumonia bacteria had left his system and the cough he had developed over the last few days was just due to nasal dripping, nothing more. Anyway he has his x-ray on Monday. I cannot tell you how I am beginning to see light at the end of the pneumonia tunnel. He's such a great kid, I hated to see him suffering.

Of course I've also managed to come down with the cold! Just what I need. My DD (13) knows about the pregnancy and is being pretty caring. It doesn't stop me from having to rush around for her. Thank goodness dance shows, theatre, music bla bla will soon be over.

Ladies I am feeling pretty shitty these days. The nausea and tiredness are just taking the fun out of day-to-day life. Has anyone else found that? Sometimes it's even hard to feel positive about this pregnancy I'm feeling so run down. I'm eating well and resting as much as poss. I was like this with my DC pregancies but I find it so debilitating.... I feel terrible about whinging but I think the cold on top of the m s is taking it out of me.

I guess I shall be calling the doctor for an appointment before end of June as I am creeping towards the 7 week mark.

Hi - Can I join this thread too?
I'm exactly 8 weeks today - and feeling convinced its either going to be another mmc or mc. Had mmc/empty sac last year in August.

Felt like my period was going to start on Thursday which was when AF would have been due - which my midwife was reassuring me about - as I met her for the first time yesterday.

JARDINS i know what you mean about feeling ill x I am constantly feeling sick and have absolutly no energy what so ever and just want to sleep - but it re-assures me as i didnt feel like this with either of my mc x

My sister has had a baby boy today and he is absolutly gorgeous, made me feel weird holding him cos i couldnt let myself accept that i might have one - i was jealous x and now i feel awful for feeling like that. I am praying my baby will be born healthy to and i will be happy and healthy.

I've been shattered today too - we went to Ikea, not for a mad-furnishing-the-entire-house shop, just because it was a wet day, needed some candles and bits and bobs for DS's playroom (candles were not for DS's playroom obviously but you know what I mean) and then to Tesco and halfway round the baked bean aisle I felt like I was going to collapse.

I felt like this at 6-10 weeks with DS but didn't feel like this in December so I too am cautiously hopeful it is a positive sign of a viable pregnancy.

I really don't want to feel as stressy as I did throughout my pg with DS (headcase is the word we need here) as I'm sure it made him a stressy baby too - I have heard of research which shows high levels of maternal anxiety increase cortisone levels in developing brain.

Georgimama and Mummytopebs I'm glad I'm in good company re: tiredness and nausea. I feel more reassured by these symptoms only because I felt them with my past two viable pregnancies. (This is a message to all those with few symptoms not to worry )

It's funny cos nausea, etc. is so unpleasant that I end up focusing on how grotty I feel so I stop worrying about the possibility of ms. However when the nausea lets up I start wondering if something is wrong instead of just enjoying the break from sickness! It's a crazy old thing pregnancy. Yesterday I started having an upset stomach insteaed of nausea. Hmmm, I think I prefer that, to be honest.

How is everybody else? Thandeka, you're being a little quiet.