The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

Oh and to Hoops- it may make a difference as different tests have different amount of dye in. So you may use two different tests with the same morning's wee and get one strong positive and one weak positive or even a negative.

Cheapie £1 shop ones may not have that much dye in because they are cheap (I find the cheaper tests worst for giving you a good result)- but you see the issue maybe if you have used one type of test which is getting fainter and then changed brands to a more sensitive test- it may seem like your result is getting stronger but actually it is down to the test. I quite like tesco own brand HPT as that gives me a good line. Could you do a test again with the same tests you were using previously on your thursday tests? That should give you a more definitive result. Fingers crossed its a positive for you and isnt still left over HCG.
xxx

yeah I really hope so, since my MMC my little sister has had her 20 week scan and her babe is perfect, I realised how much I wanted a kiddie, in the 8 weeks I was pg my whole life changed and I really liked it, it has made my relationship stronger, also it opened my eyes to just how common MC is..........thanks for words of wisdom I have my fingers crossed for you and everyone on here.......

It is scary how much being pregnant changes your outlook. In my work I am fervently pro choice but since the MC I now get very upset by the thought of abortion and have to be careful I don't let my feelings impact on my professionality (if thats a word!)

How is everyone feeling today? I feel terrible (Hurrah!) am completely shattered and feel really nauseous (but the lemon and ginger tea just helped a bit) so that is great but unfortunately I had a bad episode of dodgy tum this morning which was a feature of the last MMC so am a tiny bit worried but trying not to be as I probably had dodgy tum earlier in last preg too but have forgotten.

Its funny how last time I was pregnant every symptom I was so excited about and used to tell DH - oooh my boobs hurt, ooh I feel sick oooh these are all good signs. But now I don't feel the excitement - I may comment on them but I now know they may or may not be a good sign and DH now just grunts when I tell him instead of being all "oooh!" with me!

Hope all you lovely ladies are doing okay.
x

Hi ladies,

Thandeka, glad to hear you are feeling awful!

I wish I was. I feel almost completely normal- a fact which I am not liking one bit. Actually that's not true- I have a very mild, tight crampy feeling around my back, abdomen and groin. Hopefully this is a good sign rather than a bad one. I don't feel remotely nauseous though, however much I try to convince myself. And my boobs aren't sore.

I have had a dicky tummy over the past few days and headaches, so I suppose that's something. God being pg has made me INSANE!

Is anyone else trying to resist the urge to constantly take HPTs and examine the results obsessively? I have managed not to so far but can feel myself caving and I'm aware Boots is just round the corner from work.. it's like when you are trying to give up smoking and constantly have the urge to nip to the shops for fags.

How is everyone?

Phew but it's hot today. Thandeka please don't worry: a dodgy tummy is normal. Joy27 I can honestly hold my head up high and say that I have not felt the slightest desire to re-test after my first CB digital demon conception indicator. I read about so many mumsnetters going insane with worry about the 1-2, 2-3, etc. result and to cap it all some unfortunate ladies were relieved to get the 3+, breathed a sigh of relief and then went on to miscarry. That's awful!! Anyway I identified so much with this particular strain of anxiety that I have steered clear of any chemist's or other HPT outlets.

I've been feeling troubled today. After a relaxing week-end my children and I have had 2 restless nights due mostly to the heat. Also my son, who had bronchitis/mild pneumonia for the first time 3/4 weeks ago (and who has a routine x-ray next Monday to check everything is ok - common procedure in France) has had a cold and was coughing quite a bit last night. Normally he always gets colds and coughs but since his illness I have been paranoid about a relapse. Anyway I've made an appointment with my lovely GP on Friday more for my reassurance than anything. Whether they be 4 week old embryos or 5 year olds - we love our children!!!!

Thinking about you all!

hi ladies hows everyone feeling 2day?hope ur all feeling relaxed im having the afternoon in bed as i went shopping this morning and an old man fell over in his wheelchair nobody around 2 help so of course i had 2 now i feel as ivee got stomach ache might be over reacting un sure but also had upset stomach running loo a lot this morning anyway.so im just gonna try relax this savvy
thinking of u all xx

And how are we all today?

Mummyto pebs I?m really glad to hear that your nausea has kicked in. Crazy to be so happy over such a a thing but there you are. I will be most happy if and when mine appears with a vengeance.

Thandeka I share your dislike of the words mucus & discharge! I tend to abbreviate instead to CM. Some of the MN abbreviations are a little toe curling but I think that one is about right! Try not to worry (yeah right) about the upset stomach. My DH has had similar lately ? really strong stomach cramps and feeling really rough. It hasn?t got to me yet thank heavens. Also one of my friends has had similar and she is on one of these diets where you don?t eat solid food so it sure as hell wasn?t something she ate. Sounds like Pinky is also hit ? I hope you both get well soon!

BTW, I also know what you mean about not being excited about everything. Sadly the innocence of pregnancy is the first casualty of a mc.

Joy With you on the HPT obsession but I have been steering clear. Like Jardins I have also seen the heartache on threads over the 1-2, 2-3, 3 weeks thing. Also, I know from the mc that having a positive HPT is no indicator of whether the pg will be ok. I had positive tests for about 2 weeks after I miscarried. You will have enough HCG to register a positive even if the pg is not going to go to term so repeated testing is ruinous both to ones bank balance and mental health.

Jardins I hope ds is just having a little cough and splutter rather than a relapse. At least the X-ray next week should confirm that all is ok.

Remarkably trouble free day for me so far. Tired (again) and was STARVING hungry for lunch which was a ?mare as the aforementioned friend above came over for coffee and as she is on this diet I don?t like to eat in front of her. I was almost relieved she left so I could scoff a huge plate of asparagus, scrambled egg and toast.

And the good news is I have had several definite surges of nausea this morning. Yipee! Also have had quite grim headaches yesterday and today which I am hoping is due to a step up in hormone levels. I often get them just after I ovulate so I guess that would make sense.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck and then some FUCK!

Apologies for all the profanities but I possibly have had the worst most stressful day in my entire teaching career and it can't be doing the emby the slightest bit of good. basically possible Child protection issue emerged in a lesson, I tried to deal with it and do all the referrals etc. Cue Deputy Head coming into my next lesson as now accusations about what I had said to the students were being levelled at me! Can't really go into the details but basically all giant misunderstanding storm in a teacup and all sorted now and I was just doing my sodding job and was completely professional - am not being blamed but is just a horrible stressful nightmare that I really really really don't need right now! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR and the parents have to be phoned and so on. Yuk yuk yuk.

Oh but on the plus side I actually had to get the classroom bin and move it by my desk so convinced I was I was going to throw up (don't think I have had that bad nausea this early on last time) so am pleased with that.

Hi girls,

Hurrah for all you nauseous ladies! Happy puking! Didn't mean that to sound glib, I know it probably feels miserable... but I wish I could join you. Have become quite fixated on the nausea issue actually.

jardins it sounds like you had a horrid night. Hope you are managing to relax a bit in the sunshine in the jardin today. See, you can tell I don't have any (birthed) kids- I imagine that you have time to relax, but probably not!

I'm still anxious about lack of symptoms but am going to resist testing again on all of your advice. Que sera que sera. I'm six weeks in and haven't been sick once, so at least I haven't had crazy strong symptoms which have disappeared- I never really had them in the first place. Argh. The waiting. My midwife is going be sorry I ever walked through that door tomorrow, I have so many questions and worried to offload!

The wild optimism is not working out so well!

hey everyone im new to this Had a mc the beginning of may just found out im pregnant again 4 weeks and am petrified its going to happen again !!

Is it risky to get pregnant so soon after?? got an appointment to see someone at an early pegnancy unit dont know wot there going to do tho !! Is it to soon to have an internal scan??

Would love some advice xxxx

hello!
Joy27, I'm 6 weeks tomorrow (touch wood) and I have yet to have any strong symptoms either. In fact I didn't have strong symptoms with my DS either. Perhaps we are the lucky ones? - I'm trying to maintain the optimism.

jardins I hope your DS is feeling a bit better

thandeka I'm glad it's all getting resolved, but its rotten when you were just trying to do the right thing. I'm sure your little emby is doing fine.

wasbipeanut Glad you are feeling sick! although the headaches must be rough. I am sure I read "somewhere" that sinus type headaches are quite common in pregnancy ... so it must be a good sign!

I'm just feeling a bit shattered today, I went out last night to celebrate a friend's birthday. It was a lovely night but I didn't get home until about 12.30 ... then I stayed up chatting with DH until about 1.30 ... then DS woke me up at 6.30 ... it's been a long day and I can't even blame it on a hangover! An early night for me tonight ... if DH ever gets home with dinner.

Hope everyone else is doing okay?

welcome Imhopeful and congratulations!... I got pregnant after mc after one period with my DS, he is now 18 months. My sister got pregnant with her DS (now 6 months) straight after mc (no period).

I'm just pregnant again after mc so I am hoping that this one will stick too.

Don't worry many of us are going through the same thing.

Good luck at your appointment, when is it? I am having my first appointment on Sunday when I am just over 6 weeks, my doc says I will have an internal scan.

Take care

hey HappyBump my first appointment is on friday im crapping myself!!!
Noticed im experiencing a cramp like pain in my ribs dont know if i shold be wooried?

Sometimes i wonder if im imagining pain tho??/

I'mhopeful1986 I'm in exactly same boat. MMC 40odd days ago and pregnant again. Apparently no more likely to MC straight after than at any other time but I share your anxiety.

How come you got an appointment so soon and when is it? Good luck! I sent off my referral form last week and so far heard nothing. May phone next week to chase it up. Defo too early for a scan- they can't see anything til 5 weeks and earliest they can see a heartbeat is 6 weeks (7 best) and even if you do see a heartbeat (like I did) at 6 weeks you can still miscarry (like I did) so trying to hold on til 8 weeks means much less liklihood of MC after a sucessful scan.

Joy totally get the HPT obsession and will be weeing on a stick tommorrow to check the line has got darker. from 8DPO to about 15DPO I did a test everyday despite getting a definitive positive at 12DPO but haven't since then so I feel I need to as will be 21DPO (and 5 weeks!). Then on sunday I do plan on breaking out the big guns- the CB digital just to see what it says (BTW just so you all know I never practice what I preach- I may pontificate about the dangers of the CB digital but heck the lure is too great!)

Am calmer now that previous post but still raging and have a lot to sort out with the particular issue- am very tempted to try and get signed off work between 6-8 weeks so that I have absolutely no stress (thats when emby stopped growing last time- but then I had not stress then either- was on honeymoon!). Thank heaven I am leaving the job but gutted I still have 7 more weeks at the most crucial time.

Anyhow love to everyone (fraid I am too shattered to do proper replies to things and am going for a snooze- but please take it as I adore you all and have read each message!)

Thandeka just rang my midwife today and she got me an appointment they want to keep a close eye on me!!

Think there just gonna do my bloods! think untill im 12 weeks which is anutha bloody 8 weeks away are going to be the longest ov my life

Your midwife from before? I never got allocated one but I may phone and speak to the team tommorrow.

How far along were you before if you don't mind me asking? (I was 10 weeks but emby died at 6.5-7 weeks)

And I also love you all and am too shattered to write anything half interesting. Thank you for all your kindness. I will give you all the attention you deserve tomorrow.

I have two sick children now. I have ordered my virtually never ill 13-year old daughter to have a day off school tomorrow because she has a very croaky voice and sore throat and she has a music exam tomorrow during which she has to sing + a dance dress rehearsal for two shows she's doing on Saturday and Sunday. She's such a virtuous pupil normally I just think she needs to rest tomorrow. My DS had a lovely day playing outside in the sun but is still coughing - maybe the same thing as my DD? Anyway he'll be off school tomorrow and off to the docs on Friday.

I feel like I'm dragging myself around on an empty tank of energy. The nausea is not a killer but unpleasant. It certainly takes the shine of the pleasure of eating. And coffee?????? Oh no wayyyyyyyy.

I am still convinced those not suffering from nausea have nothing to worry about. I have a good number of friends who claim to have sailed through pregancy with no m s whatsoever Night, night to all of you.

I am joining Jardins in the nauseua camp today, it seems to be going the same way every day. Can eat breakfast then feel sick all morning, then from 1-2 pm am starving so eat, then feel sick all afternoon, then after 7pm someone waves a magic wand and i am ok to eat, not that im complaining x

Joy congratulations, my sister who is currently overdue with her 2nd baby has never had one bit of nauseua through both her pregnancies.

Thandenka sorry to hear about your stress at work just keep passing positive vibes to emby x

Right girls i need your advice i am starting a new job next wednesday, i was not pregnant when i got the job but have been working notice and waiting for a police check to come back. When should i tell them i am pregnant? I am nervous about telling them cos of mc's and also feel a bit shocking x

Sorry forgot to say hope your children are feeling better tomorrow x

Thankdeka I'm sorry to hear you've had all this shit at work. Not what you need right now. I don't really know what else to say other than I hope it blows over soon.

Joy Forgive me for not remembering but is this your first? I would only be worried about lack of symptoms if I had them before and not again. If this is the first time for you then a lack of symptoms might just be lucky! I know it is easier said than done (and I am a fine one to talk) but try to relax a little! Let us know how your midwife appt goes.

I'm hopeful Welcome to our bubble! It is lovely and cosy here. There seem to be several here who became pg again straight after an mc and as Thandeka says, there is no evidence that says that puts anyone at increased risk. The only reason that doctors tell you to wait a month apparently is because of the greater difficulty of dating the pregnancy but that is not your problem.

Happybump Glad you are feeling optimistic! Can you pass some of it over here please?

Jardins what a time for the kids to get sick! This may be a silly question but have you told them you are pg? Do they understand whay Mummy is so knackered and ill? I hope they both get on the mend soon in any case.

mummytopebs congrats on the new job! My personal opinion is that you shoudln't tell them yet. If you feel really ill and need some support then you might have to but I think its best to stay schtum at the beginning. I guess legally they can't do anything even if they do know but it may make it easier for you to fit in and feel like part of the team if they remain in the dark for a few more weeks.

No real news from me - 5+4 and my god its dragging. I was a bit worried as haven't felt nausea this am but was reassured by the fact that when I was eating a bowl of DS's rice crispies the spoon smelt funny! This is the 2nd time as well - so bizarre. The other days a knife still smelt of the salmon I skinned with it AFTER it had been through the dishwasher and was clean as a whistle.

The sense of smell thing is very wierd indeed.

24 hours till I get my blood test results back.

Haha and so the stress gets worse- I just had a kid have faint/go into a fit on a lesson on first aid (!)- talk about adrenalin rush (and made me realised despite being a qualified first aid trainer I think i need more practice!).

Wasabi- when did you have blood tests taken- are they to see HCG rising okay? Perhaps I should push to get onto the system so I can get same- would make me feel reassured if nothing else. Am 5 weeks today and get to tell my post MC counsellor and accupunturist today which I am quite excited about (as they don't count as people who can't know!)

Jardins- hope the kids are okay and you are holding up.

Mummytopebs I agree with Wasabi hold off mentioning it for a bit longer so you can settle in at work and get to know everyone.

Anyhow better get on with my marking.

P.S Just phoned the hospital- as usual they couldn't find my referral. Midwife is phoning me back today with appointment details. Yippee. Asked for a scan on 30th April and hopefully will get a booking in, reassuring chat blood tests etc before then.

Ladies hello,

Have to be honest I'm a bit out of date with where you are all at but hope you are all keeping well.

Thought I has said goodbye to this thread and was out because the scan I had last week showed nothing but an empty sac.

Just got back EPAU and all is good - seen the hb and I've been dated at 6+2 so not quite as far along as I thought (I thought 6+6 doc dated me 7+1 but have long cycles due to pcos)

I'm so happy and relieved - just thought I'd give you all a little update.

x

Hi mowmi. I' so happy for you! Wonderful news. When I found this thread on Sat, after getting my BFP, it seemed as though all was lost for you. So great to read a hopeful tale!

thandeka- god, what a day you've had! Are you still thinking about taking some time out from work to reduce your stress levels?

I am happy to report that I feel absolutely knackered this afternoon and decidedly below par! Having said that, my MW was very reassuring this morning re lack of symptoms- said that plenty of women feel normal in the early days.

Apparently I'm 6+1, but a dating scan at 9 weeks (seems so far away!) will tell me more. I really hope I make it to 9 weeks. I do feel more confident now as my mw reminded me that there is no reason why I shouldn't have a normal pregnancy.

Sorry bit of a garbled message. I am just sooo tired (HURRAH!)

Love to all.

mowmiso glad ur bk with us hun bet ur over the moon congrats big hugs xxx