The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

Hi ladies x

JARDINS we most be due nearly the same date because i am 8 weeks on monday (fingers crossed). I am finding eating something every 2 hours is keeping my nauseua at bay.

JOY fantastic news for you today although i am now worrying again as not even the fetal pole was seen at my 6 week scan.

THANDENKA sorry to hear about your loss its awful when a friend pass away, my dh friend committed suicide 3 years ago on our wedding day, his suit was ironed ready on his bed for him to come to our wedding, his fridge was full he had just been shopping, then instead of coming to the wedding he gassed himself in his garage. My dh was devasted esp seem as he had just split up with his gf so dh blamed nimself because we were happy getting married. All i can suggest is just let your dp come to term with it in his own way. Very sad sometimes life x

Big hugs and hopeful vibes to all x

it's normal to be nervous but very important to be happy about each day that passes, only listen to positive stories and keep sending 'love' to your baby so he /she knows they're safe.

There's a fab website with positive visualisations you can download - www.easybirthdownloads.com - there's a good choice of tracks (Stress Release and Wellbeing are a good start, Bonding with Baby when you're ready) just choose some and listen regularly, you should soon feel relaxed and more positive. They're great value and very relaxing.

Joy that is truly wonderful news, what a huge relief.

Thandeka, what awful news, thinking about you.

2ndattempt - I'm having blood tests because I am in France and I think they do that first thing to confirm pregnancy. I had one yesterday to confirm I am pregnant which it did and for Toxoplasmosis, Rubella, HIV and Syphilis (all clear but still waiting for Syphilis results). I also went to see the doc yesterday as I had a slighly scary discharge on Wednesday morning. She sent me for another blood test - to have my blood type tested, and DH had to go too and get his done. That requires two tests, so I've now had 3 in 24 hours!! If I'm Rhesus negative I will have to go and be given serum tonight (within 72 hours of the bleed) and then scanned. If I'm positive then she has told me to get scanned early next week when I will be 8 weeks. What a palaver - but going for an early scan will reassure me at least.

Hope everyone is well today otherwise. Sorry for ME ME ME waffle.

xx

Hold on to your stomachs guys- I threw up a whole apple this morning! Well it wasn't whole on the way back up (!) and perhaps an acidic fruit wasnt the best breakfast idea I ever had but heck it was the only thing I wanted. Now I'm sure at some point during the next 6 weeks I will get bored of announcing everytime I throw up but at the minute I am very excited by it as I never had it in last pregnancy- but as another poster on another thread cautioned me- she felt sick as a dog before each of her 4MC's so being sick isnt a guarentee one way or the other. But heck it makes me feel better (despite it being grim!)

Anyhow enough of the me me me vomit waffle! (tee hee flyingcloud your last sentence made me smile- as we are entirely allowed a me me me waffle on these threads! Hmmm a vomit waffle doesn't sound like something I would order in a coffee shop!)

Pinky sending you great big wishes and good luck for your scan at 9am. Let us know how it goes.

Love to everyone.
x

Morning ladies just been reading back a few messages joy sooooo pleased everything ok hunny - how scary for you! thandeka really so sorry to hear about your news a friend i went to school with had a younger brother - sweetest loveliest little boy, and he developed epilepsy in his teens - had one in the bath and drowned a few years back so so so sad, so unfair
HUGE good luck to pinky, and anyone else with scans/apptmnts coming up, i had a scan at 7 weeks with ds2 because i threw up so much i got rushed to hospital with extreme dehydration and kidney failure - they told me this happens alot with multiples, i had convinced myself that since i felt i wanted to die (not really but close at the time) that poor old beanie must have given up and abandoned-ship, was SOOOO relieved to see a tiny little miniscule blob with the tiniest ever heartbeat - first trimesters are HARD bloody work!!

Morning ladies,

Joy that's fab news that all is well. I logged in briefly last night to check you were ok but didn't have the energy to reply.

Well I'm afraid this is going to be me, me, me. I have spent the entire morning on and off sobbing uncontrollably because I am convinced my symptoms faded yesterday and weren't as bad this morning. My sickness just doesn't seem to be getting worse - just staying at a couple of retches a day mainly in the morning. I've still had sore boobs and stabby pains in ladybits but what I am freaking out about is that it should all be getting worse surely?

I am torturing myself trying to remember what it was like at this stage when I was pg with ds but it was 2 and a half years ago and as I wasn't an obsessive lunatic then I didn't make notes on a regular basis.

I have just moved my scan forward to next Wednesday morning so I guess that's going to be the moment of truth. God I am crying again now I just can't bear the thought of losing this one too.

wasabipeanut lessening symptoms dont have to mean anything bad, your just thinking it does because your worried which is understandable, this beanie will be a tough cookie, we all have super-strong beanie's now, and we will all have GORGEOUS babies in feb

Hang on a minute Wasabi - reread your post-
You were crying (hormones), You are dry retching, you have sore boobs and stabby pains. You have ALL the symtoms. How many weeks are you now? It shouldn't necessarily get worse- and even some womens symptoms disappear at a certain stage (or they have no symptoms at all) and they have healthy pregnancies (and my earlier post- some women feel horrendous with terrible symptoms and still miscarry) so actually what this tells us is that getting so freaked out about our symptoms is a waste of time as they are not going to tell us what is going on.

Glad you have moved your scan to wednesday- could you get one even earlier if you are so worried?

(By the way I am totally obssessing over my symtoms too- am not preaching in a holier than thou way- that post was as much a kick at me as you!)

I have symptoms but I just started getting upset because they weren't getting worse and I am sure they did with DS. Now I seem to be on this upset trajectory where I just keep crying everytime I think about it. Which is basically all the time.

Thank you for trying to reassure me. You are very nice and I am a nutcase.

BTW I can't get the scan earlier as DH wouldn't be able to get the time off work to come with me plus we would have to have ds with us which I don't want to do in case it is bad news. The alternative is asking my parents or friend to babysit then they would of course want to know why.....

I am 6+4 btw. I know, how slowly is it going?

Hi wasabipeanut keep optimistic till your scan. You don't want it too early or you might have all the heartache of it being inconclusive.

Last week dp had to take dd to cafeteria in hospital and for a long walk while the doctor scanned me as we had to go straight up to the gynae ward and had no chance to find someone to look after her. It is a tricky one isn't it. You don't really want them to be involved in all the adult emotions of early pg. Good luck for wed. xx

Hi all,

am afraid I'm a bit behind and am not going to get around to replying to everyone but love to all xxx

Thandeka, I'm so so sorry to hear your awful news, hope you and your husband are ok.

Joy I'm over the moon for you, was really worrying for a bit there.

wasabipeanut, I know - what is going on with time at the minute??!!! your not a nutcase - just please try and remember that not all pregnancies are the same and what you experienced with your ds may not be what you experience this time around - know thats easy to say though and can't blame you for overthinking/ comparing because am doing the same myself - should practice what I preach.

Had crying fit this morning as in completely irrational, hormonal craziness. I am suddenly HUGE - in the past 3 days I have just balloned - look approx 5 months pregnant. Honestly. Am not complaining but am going to find it very difficult to hide from people for another 4 - 5 weeks and really dont want people to know til after scan on 14th July as so nervous about what is going to happen.

I am running out of clothes to fit particulary trousers, have resorted to wearing dresses at all times to work etc.. tried on my (non pregnant) "fat" trousers this morning (that are usually still loose even on a fat day and not a hope in hell of fitting me!!! about 4 inches of belly between button and hole. DH even tried to close them for me but no hope. I sobbed hysterically about being fat and my lovely, sensitive dh laughed at me for being a crazy lunatic and tried to reassure me by "but theres loads of skinny women out there who just wish they were fat and pregnant like you...."

Aww how sweet of your dh barbielovesken! tis tricky finding clothes for that 'not my normal size but not proper pregnant size yet'

It really is.. and dont want to test fate sort of by buying bigger or maternity (although really dont want to be in maternity at 8 weeks!) Just so nervous.

Your jealous now, arent you? Hes such a charmer! a real keeper!

Lol blk

hi ladies just thought id fill u in on whats happ 2day still none the wiser my brain is completly frazzled well monday my doc said slow heartbeat will mc by 2day so had scan this morn still slow heartbeat but faster than it was twice as fast actuallyy and the bean has grown since monday still bleeding (getting heaviear)she says still gonna mc but wouldnt say that if it was some1 else only due 2 my history but how can everythin be growing and getting stronger?im so confused i go bk wed for another scan doc is really shocked in wots happ(me 2)but now im worried that if the pg goes ahead will there be something wrong with the baby wot do u all think cant believe got 2 go another 5 days like this 2 top it all off got my nephews 4 10days as sister-in-law is off on holiday plus a big suprise party 2mrw which im arranging at my house so gonna b completly stressed out sorry 4 moaning needed 2 get all that out lol hows e1 else? xx

Pinky that all sounds extremely confusing and worrying for you. Hope you are bearing up OK.

I have to say, I felt hopeful when I read your update- it does seem as though the pregnancy has a chance...? But I don't want to give false hope, as I'm no expert.

Will have my fingers crossed for you.

Dear, dear wasabi I am so sorry you're feeling so distraught. You might have noticed my posts over the last couple of days have been of a similar ilk. I couldn't believe I had no ms for 2 nights running and spent most of the night (sub)consciously fretting I was losing the baby. I could not understand why all of a sudden I fancied eating bread and butter when I had difficulty even looking at bread and butter let alone eating it.

Look, you know what? (and this applies to everybody on this thread) It is totally understandable that we are all worried: afterall we've all suffered a loss in the recent past and so our brains are processing these experiences during our current pregnancies. BUT I was chatting with my osteopath today and she said that if the body falls pregnant after a miscarriage it is normally because everything has fallen back into place and the body is ABLE to fall pregnant and be pregnant. Now we know all too well that multiple mcs can occur but WHY SHOULD IT HAPPEN to us? Perhaps we should trust our bodies more.

Love to you all.

Oh jardins what a nice post! Agree about the bread and butter - I was really sick 2 days ago and have not been sick today at all, although have felt v.nauseous.

Thandeka lol at the apple, I did the same with melon the other day, thought it was pretty innocuous choice - stomach didn't agree.

BarbieLovesKen I too am worrying about clothes up till this point have been fine in normal clothes but last few days have noticed uncomfortable waistbands. What about those baby band things that cover your waist/gap? I'm sure I could wear normal clothes until 12wks before. Your dh sounds lovely. Dp keeps telling me I look radiant - lol I am spotty, my hair is frizzy and bursting out of clothes!

Pinky fingers crossed for you!

lots of luck and love to everyone xx

Hi Pinky, The fat lady hasn't sung yet and sounds like the bean is doing all it can to survive so keeping fingers crossed. How far are you now? And what is furthest you have got in previous pregnancies- if thats not too nosey to ask? As I guess that is the next milestone for you to get past before even thinking about the 12 week milestone.

My next milestone is 6.3 days (tommorrow) as that is when I had my good scan with heartbeat and everything, and then it stopped growing a few days later- so I guess the scan at 7weeks will be the big milestone- then getting past 10.1 weeks (when I misscarried last time).

Anyhow ooops turned the post back to me- bad thandeka- please look after yourself an try and enjoy the party and your nephews.

Hello to everyone else- does anyone else have a constant sweet sickly feeling in the back of the throat? As I do and its driving me mad! Although I have discovered an excellent nausea/vomiting soother- sparkling water with lots of icescubes in it- it takes it away! Yippee - I may add some lemon or lime to it too as that is supposed to help. I normally am a ginger nut fiend and the very thought of them at the min makes me want to boak- and since they are supposed to be the thing for morning sickness is not helpful for me!

Hi everyone had my midwife booking in appointment today which made it all feel so real (especially the blood tests which really hurt). I wish she could have waited for the appointment though cos got my 8 week scan tomorrow and it might have all been a waste of her time

DD is poorly tonight has been throwing up for 3 hours, bless her x hope she manages to get some sleep tonight cos i just want to go to sleep and tomorrow to be here so i know. SO SCARED x

mummytopebs thinking of you today, I hope it all goes well. I hope your DD is feeling better soon too. Please let us know how it goes.

pinky fingers crossed

jardins & wasabi I hope your symptoms are staying strong. I've been having a bit of a wobble recently but my DH just keeps telling me it will all be fine and I am trying my best to believe him.

to everyone else, I hope you are all doing well.

Mummytopebs keeping fingers crossed for you!

Happybump by the way in the living overseas forum there is a Dubai Mumsnetters thread and they are arranging a meet- thought you might be interested- spotted it in active convos yesterday.

Am now counting down days to scan on thursday and trying and failing to eat some breakfast.

Hope all is well with people- was getting worried i had turned into a threadkiller as this thread went very quiet over the weekend!

hello ladies mind if i pop my head in for a while? Im nearly five weeks with second pregnancy, first ended in mmc at 11 weeks.

Shitting myself and due to living in dubai and havent got anyone to speak too im turning myself into a nervous wreak!

I have v bad back ache, one sided on the left. Doctors yesterday ruled out kidney/ water infection tummy scan revealed nothing due to it being too early...so im either having a very early mc or something else? Anyone had one sided back pain??? boobies are sore, strong reaction on hpt and tired so thats all good....

Mummytopebs I'm really hoping today is as stress free as possible. PLEASE let us know how your scan went. How is your daughter? Isn't it grim when they're sick?

Big smile to everyone. Let's keep this thread moving: we all need the cyber suppport.

I've one week to go before my first appointment....... How are you all faring?