The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

Oh pinky I am so sorry to hear that especially given your history it just seems too cruel. Lets keep fingers firmly crossed for that 10%- thinking of you.
xxx

im so sorry pinky...keeping everthing crossed for you...

doc just phoned me, hormones only gone up from 6000 to 9000 since fri so she referring me to epu...she said she's not happy, and im beside myself...im so scared and dp working nights so have to go on my own...i hope this isnt the start of mc...

let u all know later what they say xx

pinky I am so sorry. I'm crossing my fingers for that 10% chance too.

Winjy also thinking of you. Hope the EPU can give you the reassurance you need. I don't know much about HCG levels but I do know they are very unpredictable.

thankdeka, jardins et al, how are you doing? Any news thandeka?

I'm still feeling fairly wobbly, as I'm sure we all are. Found out today that my first scan isn't until I'm 11 weeks (4 weeks time) which is later than I was hoping for (mw suggested I might get one at 9w). However my partner pointed out that the later you leave it to scan, the more there is to see. Plus there's really nothing I can do to determine whether or not this bean stays with me- a couple more weeks of waiting won't change outcome. And I am not prepared to pretend I have bleeding/cramps in order to get an early scan.

Have still managed to resist testing again- am wary of the clearblue tests, having read various horror stories on here. But I reckon I might crack out a normal HPT at some point soon.

Sorry again for being self-absorbed when there are ladies here going through real trauma rather than just worry.
Am thinking of all of you who have question marks over your much-wanted pregnancies, and hoping you all get the best news.

Oh winjy today isn't a happy day in the lounge and I am knitting furiously to keep our little bubble and all of us in it safe. Do you have anyone else you could go with?
Please try and remember the fat lady hasn't sung yet and HCG levels are considered wobbly and unreliable sometimes as they don't always go up as they should and some women do go on to have sucessful pregnancies.

I'm off for my bloods in half an hour too so am quite scared.

hello everyone...ur right thandeka today isnt a very good day and it got a bit worse for me tbh. I went to epu and they scanned me said the sac was elongated which could suggest its going to be ectopic and the sac is still empty and at this stage she said she should be able to see the foetal pole so not very good. I have to go back in a weeks time (more waiting) and if there is still nothing in the sac then i just have to wait til i miscarry or they'll terminate the pregnancy for me...im gutted, phoned work told them i wont be in. And to think I have to wait a week for more bad news is just torture. Sorry to be so self absorbed guys, feeling very sorry for myself. have tried to stay so positive but what will be will be i suppose.

How are u pinky? And everyone else? I hope everyone and their beans are doing well...if my bean can fight this time hopefully it'll happen next time, but im still staying on this thread!

Hello everyone just found out yesterday that im pregnant - HUGELY happy and excited but i think the 4 weeks and bricking it describes so so well havent had chance to read much yet so i'll dash off and have a read of all this thread so far

Welcome QueenofVenus and congratulations.

Winjy how far along are you now? With HCG levels of above 7000 you should be able to see a fetal pole but for my scan on sunday they had to proper rummage to find it (if you think about it the sac is a sphere with a little pole sticking up but the transvaginal probe can only take a transection picture of that sphere and can't cover all the angles so it may be that the pole is hiding against the sac so the probe couldn't really see it. I don't want to give you false hope though but am keeping my fingers crossed.

I wanted to do a separate update for my news.

I threw up about 4 or 5 times this morning (in same vomiting episode). I was never sick last time so I am quietly hopeful. I managed a burger king happy meal for lunch- terribly unhealthy I know but heck if i actually fancy something to eat I am going to eat it.

Had my blood tests but have to wait until at least 4.30 for the results which is terrifying. Have a massage booked for 6.30 but my massage therapist said I could text her at 5.30 if i want to cancel- she also said she would pray to the goddess for me- not quite sure what godess but am all for prayers, wishes, magic potions anything to make it work this time. Will post when I get the results. They may make me go back on Thursday for more bloods.

Winjy and Pinky I am so sorry to read that you have had bad scans. I wouldn't want to give false hope but at the same time, I have read many a story on mn about these situations where the pg turns out to be healthy.

I hope so much for both of you that you will be one of those stories one day.

Stumblebum Welcome! We all do the self indulgent thing sometimes! My sypmtoms come and go if it makes you feel better although now at 6 weeks thy are becoming a little more consistent. They certainly faded in and out for the first 2 weeks - driving me crazy in the process.

Jardins I am with you on the salty rather than sweet thing. I am normally a bit of a choc fiend but I have gone right off it. I can keep nausea under control by eating - it only seems to suddenly kick in before meals so I am having to snack as much as my ds!

Quuenofvenus welcome! good to have another recruit to the lounge of nervousness and thumb twiddling.

Thandeak not long to wait now for your blood test. Given how pukey you have been I would have thought it was looking pretty good.

Well my problem today is tiredness. I am just shattered and have been all day. I am really struggling. I took ds to his Tumbletots class and all I wanted to do was lay down on the gym floor and go to sleep. I even had to psyche myself up to walk the 10 minutes home. I am also really struggling with dizziness - my blood pressure must be on the floor as well. As many of you know when you have a toddler you spend a lot of time bending over to pick up stuff, clean stuff etc, and go from sitting to standing a lot.

Each time I do that I get a massive headspin.

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thankyou 2 all who wrote its hard 2 keep track of everyone on here now so many of us welcome newcomers winjyim with u on the waiting around 4 next scan id rather they just said yes or no but its never a straight answere is it as 4 e1 else feeling like shit well done lol now bk 2 me lol its weird because i dont feel anythin apart from the bleeding im completly fine no pain still feel sick and sore boobs as if everythins fine but i know its not out of 23 mcs ive never had a slow heartbeat the doctor expects it 2 b all over by friday but im not sure cant find anythin about this either so got no advice so if anybody has any clue plz let me know doc also said if it was any1 else she'd give them a chance but as its me ive got no hope i hope you can understand this as theres so much in my head i just have 2 write it quick lol anyhow hope i havent left any1 out and takecare all fingers crossed 4 e1 waitin on results thank god 4 this thread b lost without it so well donr thendeka and wasabipeanut 4 starting it xxx

Pinky, hope your ok xxx am thinking of you x

Am so sorry that I havent posted in ages, I have been keeping an eye on you all daily but find it hard to post as internet connection is down at home and can only get on in work. (Thandeka - love your ramblings - you really make me laugh xx)

Am really really panicing - Im so sorry - know this is waaaay to much info but I've no one else to ask.

Im after going to the ladies and when I wipe am getting this very stringy discharge, alot

Its exactly like the substance that came at the beginning of my last mc except that time it was brown. This is completely clear.

Anyone know what it is????? (sorry again)

Yay for ramblings (would you believe I write the way I speak- cept its worse in real life! I think only DH can understand me!)

Changes to discharge is entirely normal in early pregnancy, and even if its brown its not always a cause for concern. Main thing is keep an eye on it and if it turns red and is accompanied by pain then is probably time to get it checked out. And am very jelous of yours being clear- like I said previously mine is bright yellow! (but think is from wee- TMI but my wee is practically fluorescent at the min!). Erm not really jealous though as that would indicate I was some kind of malajusted person with disharge jealousy issues- and thats just weird!

Gave up waiting for hospital to phone me and phoned them. Results sunday were 7800 (not 7000 as was told) and today they were 13800 so absolutely fine (and I suspect I had them in 46 instead of 48 hours).

So thats one hurdle over with. Next step HB on scan a week on Thursday.

Hi, this is my first thread and i am currently 7 weeks of my second pregnancy after i had a miscarriage in Feburay at 9 weeks. Last time i had no sickness and felt a bit tired however, this time i am really suffering been as sick as a dog and just want to sleep all the time. I am just hoping that these are positive things this time. Although everytime i go to the loo i am expecting to see something. Last time we were both so excited we told everyone really early and then had to explain to everyone what had happened. This time i have only told mum and one friend, but it is difficult in work, i think they all think i am hung over cos i am not looking my best. Hopefully it will all go ok but feel that what happened last time has taken all the excitment out of it this time.

Welcome 2ndattempt and congrats. Have you been for the dreaded dr's visit yet?

I know how you feel on the telling people front- we did exactly the same! This time is very limited people who know.

Work is terrible when feeling dreadful which is why I am very glad I got signed off citing previous miscarriage/gynecological complications. Is there a possibility you could do that too?

Hi ladies x WINJY how far along are you? Cos i had a scan last monday and was 6 weeks and they couldnt see a fetal pole but said this was noraml at this stage.

Pinky hope everything turns out ok

THANDENKA sounds like your bean is really sticking in there and your blanket is working, hope you are knitting for me to i have got another scan monday will be 8 weeks and i am worried sick that it will be empty

Am stressed today as well cos i start my new job tomorrow and have just been to the hospital with my dd and her sight has detriorated in one of her eyes, she is currently undergoing lots of tests for flashing sensation in her eyes. Need a big glass of wine i think

Thanks Thandeka, no not been to the DRs yet, kind of putting it off. I can't really take the time off work as i am on a course for the next four weeks but atleast it is normal hours as i usually work shifts, so i am getting plenty of early nights. Just feel rubish all day, but just keep telling myself that this is a good sign as last time felt fine. Have felt sick for about a week but threw up for the first time this morning.

How far are you?

hey mummy my dates say im7 weeks but early scan puts me now at 5 weeks my dates may be wrong not 100%...got brown discharge too tho and hormones not doubling so not looking great (sorry for tmi!)

sorry to her about dd...there's always something for us to worry about isnt there, and i was thinking the same about the wine earlier in tesco!!

so pleased for thandeka and your bean...seems like ur blanket is working.

wasabi pleased for you that ur symptoms are present, as unpleasant as they are at least they are reassuring...all im holding onto now is sore boobs...apart from that i dont feel pregnant at all

im sorry to be so self centred again but im preparing for the worst...not feeling 100% positive about my little bean...had lots of brown discharge today (tmi sorry)

pinky im with u on the lack of answers!! saw a sonographer and a nurse who pussy footed round me and around answering the questions i was asking then spoke to a docotr on gynae ward. i would just rather them say if its not good, there's nothing worse than false hope...hope u are ok, holding out for ur bean, 10% is still 10 in 100 babies, ur bean could be one of them.

i am also thankful for this thread...without this i would feel so alone, dp doesnt understand at all! he thinks everything will be fine and tells me to relax and not worry - yeah right!! sending lots of love to you and ur beans

winjy when is ur next scan? as 4 dh e1 may have noticed but not once have i mentioned him he doesnt like 2 talk about it (he has been through 21 off 23 mc)4 me this is the only place i can talk nobody knows how many mc or anythin that goes on with me i dont like the pitiful talks my family think im up 2 8 wen i got past that stopped talkin bout it my mum has ms so i dont like 2 worry her and all my friends sisters brother have all got kids so wouldnt understand so this thread has truelly been my only place 4 discussion god just made myself feel depressed writing that lol xx

pinky my scan isnt til tues!! im going insane already...a whole week to wait...

at least we all have eachother...only originally came on here to ask a question but its become my life line almost...sad eh?
i really hope ur bean keeps fighting pinky seems we're both in the same boat...i am sending lots of love and hugs your way...and to everyone else too...just wish i could stop worrying...want someone to tell me bean is fine, heart is beating and nothing to worry about but chance of that happening is lloking slimmer and slimmer...god pinky im depressing myself too...ha ha just got to try and stay positive

wow been reading about as many of you as i can manage to cram in some of you have really been through the mill its sad to read. Bought some folic acid today, i know im supposed to be taking it anyway but it makes me feel really really nauseus (sp?) and yes as predicted took one as soon as i bought it this morning and i already feel sick, or could that be psychological does anyone else feel sick on folic acid or am i a freak of nature? lol

Mornin' all!!,

Hope you are all well today.

Thandeka - I'm sooo glad to hear about results, was thinking about you - thats brilliant. (Laughing at discharge envy thats definately a first for me!! ) thank you so much for reply yesterday, completely reassured me x was freaking out a little. Ridiculous really but cant help it.

2ndattempt, welcome!! am sure you'll find it helpful here...

Winjy, hope your ok, I understand what you mean about false hope but remember there still is hope. Crossing everything for you.

Pinky, my heart absolutely breaks for you and all you've been through. You are truely brave.

Queenofvenus, I feel sick if I take folic acid on an empty stomach but if I eat something with it, Im fine - what way have you been taking it?

I'm so sick! I feel nauesous constantly
which I suppose may be a good thing as I had no where near the amount of symptoms with last unsuccessful pregnancy as Im having now. Only thing to stop me feeling ill is to eat (carbs!!) at this rate will be size of small country. Gone of sweet things though which is unusual for me...

Got scan date for 14th July, when (hopefully!!), I'll be 12+3, not ideal - was hoping to get one alot sooner but I suppose it doesnt really make a difference, as in I could mc after early scan anyway and if all goes ok, at least at 12 weeks I'm out of the water, so to speak... (I hope!!)

Am 7+4 today.. the next 5 weeks are going to kill me, I just wish I could magic June away - how slowly is time going???

How wonderful to 'see' so many new ladies joining us! And how sorry I am to see too many going through the mill. Pinky and Winjy there's no game worse than the waiting game. Little makes that wait more bearable except maybe this thread and our loved ones (yep, in that order!)

Thandeka I'm so pleased your bean is making such good progress. Fantastic news. Are you off to Glastonbury today? Has the throwing up episode put you off going a little, or not at all?

2ndAttempt welcome and if you've read my posts you will see that I can empathise totally on the knackered and sick front. I was in bed at 9pm last night and had to struggle to get up at 7am! I wish I could just sleep and eat my way through the next few weeks. I hate feeling so lethargic although the only positive thing about feeling crap is that it stops me from fretting about the possibility of miscarrying. I have that fear still (maybe after my appointment in two weeks I may worry a little less?) but as my dad said to me one the mind can only concentrate on one pain at the time and so, dear dad, my nausea is taking precedence.

MummytoPebs I'm sorry about the added hassle you've got with your daughter's eyesight. There's always something to stress about, isn't there?

I'm so happy because my son had his routine x-ray on Monday to check to see the state of his lungs after his bout of pneumonia. He got the all clear. Words cannot describe the relief I'm feeling. I've got back my more light-hearted approach to being a mum instead of fretting and fearing everytime I would hear him cough. Yippeeeeeeee!!!!!

Wasabi yep, I'm a chocoholic normally but I am officially off chocolate now. I'm so sorry you are struggling to get through the day. I'm with you all the way.

One good thing about feeling so crap is that because I go off so many things (soap, the washing-up sponge, my kitchen, my house, my daughter blowing her nose.......) is that I don't want to buy anything, no books, no clothes, ANYTHING. At least I'm gonna save a bit of money. I decided yesterday to buy ready cooked meals. I love cooking normally and insist a little on preparing fresh produce, bla, bla (what a paragon of virtue, NOT!!!) but cooking for my loved ones has become one hell of an ordeal. So I figured just heating up would involve less chundering. The problem is that as soon as I've had something to eat I go off it. The list of possible edibles is diminishing rapidly.....

Thinking of you all.

hello all!
I've been trying to catch up with all the posts, there have been so many since I was last here. Welcome to those who have recently joined.

Thandeka it's sounds very positive for you, I hope the nausea doesn't get too much.

Wasabi I have the same sort of dizziness. I also have a toddler, he is going to be 18 months on Thursday, wow! 18 months has flown (... I just wish that the next few weeks would fly by too).

Jardins I am glad your son has the all clear. On the sickness front I remember that with my DS when I was pregnant, I ordered Thai takeaway all the time - it wasn't that I felt sick so much it was I just ran out of energy to cook for myself and I love cooking!

Winjy and Pinkymy thoughts are with you the waiting is so frustrating.

I am very excited today one of my sister's just called and told me she is coming to visit with her DP and 2DS next week. We don't get many visitors because of the cost, etc. so I am really excited. We weren't going to tell anyone we were pregnant until after 14 weeks (we found out last time we'd mc'd at 13 weeks ...), but I guess the cat will be out of the bag! It will actually be nice to share with someone in RL. She had a mc last year in between pregnancies so she is sadly familiar with the emotions and when I had my first mc she flew out to stay with me for 2 weeks. It will definitely make the next couple of weeks pass quickly so I am pleased about that too.

I?ve posted this on another thread but here might be better.

Was 7 weeks pg yesterday. I?ve really had very few symptoms and yesterday I suddenly didn?t feel pregnant at all. I?ve had the odd abdominal twinge throughout that feels a bit like I?ve done too many sit-ups. Last night I woke up painfully bursting for the loo and when I went very little came out, but the cramping stopped.

This morning I?ve noticed a faint brown discharge. I?ve got my blood test tomorrow and I?m away from home until then but I?m scared, really scared. No matter what how I look at it, the almost rational obvious explanation is that this pg isn?t going anywhere if there are no signs and a discharge. But maybe the odds are in my favour? I don?t know.

I wish everyone so much luck with their experiences.