The "4 weeks and bricking it" lounge.

[Thandeka]

Hello,
Me and Wasabipeanut thought a specific thread for people in our boat may be nice- as lovely as the knicker checkers thread is and great support but a lot of the lovely knicker checkers are past the evil first trimester and for those of us that have just found out we are pregnant again post MC we thought it might be nice for us to have a sub lounge to huddle in and support each other in these very early stages where in a way we are still in denial about this pregnancy!

We don't have to post due dates or anything scary like that, just more a place to wobble with people going through it at same time.

So I will be only 4 weeks tommorrow and 40 days ago tommorrow I had an MMC at 10 weeks but emby died at 6/7 weeks. So am going to be petrified basically for at least the next 8 weeks and would love some handholding- especially as this time I am not telling anybody except DH and best mate. Parents need not know.

hello everyone again...been having period like cramps today (as if im going to come on) is this what implantation pains feel like? becoming an obsessive knicker checker now and im doing my own head in!!

im joining joy27 in the wobbliness i feel everytime i think that past the worry and hope that i could actually have a baby in my arms in 8months!! doesnt seem like its real at the mo...im so scared something's gonna go wrong that i forgot that being pregnant actually means im gonna have a baby - does that make any sense at all?

Hi Winjy,
Period like cramps very common in early pregnancy as everything is stretching. I had quite nasty ones in the pregnancy that didn't work out and have had milder ones in this "ambiguous" pregnancy- but lots of women have them in sucessful pregnancy too.

In a way I would say go and get the hormone levels tested if it will reassure you but then remember they are an peculiar testing tool as they dont always rise as they should but you can still have a sucessful pregnancy from "dodgy" HCG results.
For example apparently my HCG results on Tuesday should be 14000 but since HCG once above 7000 may take up to 4 days to double have decided I am not going to panic unless they are below 10,000 (well I say that but I'm probably lying about the panic!)

And sorry Hi to everyone else! Will try and do proper responses in my day of leisure on my living room sofa tommorrow.

i think i am going to go in the morning...whether i go or not...the fact arent going to change if something is going to go wrong...so pleased for you and keeping my fingers and everything crossed for everyone on this thread. im amazed at how fragile i feel and sensitive...maybe im unconsciously sympathising with the bean im doing my best to look after xxx

uh oh not looking good...pinky discharge this morning when i wiped, tiny amounts of blood in it...hoping its implantation bleeding...got appointment at 1025 with doc...panicking and bricking it now

Winjy and Joy I am with you on this vulnerability thing in pregnancy. I get to feel scared - whether it be about losing the baby or, dare I say, having it - literally all the time. I KNOW these are normal emotions for me (and probably the majority of women) but those wibbly moments can be overwhelming, especially in the evening. Joy please don't feel guilty about 'self-indulgent posts'. It's good to get those fears out and air your views.

I have just plucked up the courage to call to make an appointment with the (nice) doc here in Bayeux who I saw twice during my m c in March. As we are moving to another region beginning of July I was hoping for a one-off appointment with him during June. Guess what? He's totally booked up and cannot see me!!! The next step will be to call my gynea in Paris (two and a half hrs train journey away) this afternoon to try and book an appointment with him. Fingers crossed for me, please!

It's crazy how just dialling the doctor's number got my heart racing. This is a crazy ol' state to be in

Morning all. I'm now coming down with a cold- Think I caught from cyber contact with Jardins.

I am now at dry retching stage with a lot of food and feeling nauseous and knackered which is more than I got last time. Didn't sleep well at all last night because of the funny pain in laft hand side- it has got to the stage where I could have done with painkillers but didnt want to take them. I had to go sleep in the spare room in the end as I was disturbing DH's sleep and he has to work fulltime whereas I am off at the min. So will have to sleep during the day today (had a lie in til 9.30 which was nice). Am waiting til 11.30 to phone my docs (time you get to actually speak to my doc instead of receptionist) and get a proper sick note instead of the weird one the doc gave me.

Good luck to all having bloodtests and scans this week. Love to everyone else.
xxx

hope everyones ok 2day just a quick post will do proper 1 wen i get bk from liverpool womans this afternoon thandeka good 2 hear ur ok u said mesured 4mm how many weeks r u now? i measured 3mm at 5 weeks last tues so urs sounds right i think ur few days a head of me (if i remeber rightly) will be in touch wen get bk fingers crossed bye 4 now xxx

Hi Pinky good luck for today and keep us posted!
I am 5weeks 4days now. Just phoned my lovely doctor who has signed me off for two weeks initially with Gynae complications as the reason so school doesn't need to know.
Yaya!

Sorry I have been away for a few days. I had an article I had to do at ridiculously short notice but the good news is I have billed quite a lot of work this month so can hopefully relax for the next couple of weeks which is good as I am feeling quite tired these days. Yesterday I had every single symptom in one go.

Am 6 weeks today and I am getting much more regular nausea now and have had a couple of delightful dry retches. I can pretty much keep it under control by eating at the moment so it isn?t too bad although I did wonder if I was going to make it through my Oatibix this morning ? poor DS would not have been impressed.

I think this is how it started when I was pg with ds. It didn?t get really bad till about 8 weeks and then it was a living hell until about 15 weeks. Looking forward to that.
I get my results from my 2nd blood test hopefully after 3 today and then will call midwife if all is well.

Glad all is well Lovelymonster and Bon Voyage! Looking forward to an update on your return

Georgimama congratulations and welcome! You must be thrilled at being pg. We are pretty much all basket cases here when it comes to obsessive symptom monitoring so feel free to be as crazy as you like! Take it easy too ? no more trips to Ikea for a while!

Jardins I am sorry to hear you are feeling like shite. Looking after two older children that need ferrying around and having to deal with illnesses all without your DH is a pretty tough ask I think. I guess you should just hang onto the fact that this bit will only last a few more weeks hopefully. Come the 13 week mark you?ll be up for anything again! Er, so they say.

Winjy ? I hope by now you have gone to see an EPU. I hope everything is ok for you and your bean.

Liskey ? Welcome to you too!

Mummytopebs ? Jealousy of the newly pregnant or new mums I think is something that probably most of us have experienced at some point. It certainly explains why I had some very dark moments after my mc when friends announced their pregnancies. Jesus we wouldn?t be human unless we thought bad things sometimes but as long as those thoughts stay unspoken to anybody that would be hurt by them then we are doing ok I think.

Happybump - that?s great news about your scan! I think that taking it one day at a time is all any of us can do right now so it?s great that you are feeling positive.

Thandeka ? phew you gave me scare when I was catching up. Glad all turned out well although you must have been pretty scared at the time. Am happy (sort of) to hear dry retching has kicked in! At least you can chill for a couple of weeks.

Joy ? I understand well your fears and feelings of vulnerability. I suspect it is why I have been putting off calling the midwife and why I wasn?t too upset when the doc told me I couldn?t have a scan. I sort of don?t want to know. We know how small embryos are and they seem so fragile but the truth is that the odds are massively in favour of life even when there have been losses before. It just feels like exactly the opposite sometimes!

Pinky ?good luck for today!

Ok, second blood test result in - my levela re going up as they should do. They put me at 44-45 days last Friday which bearing in mind I came in at 41-42 on the Tuesday is about right. HCG apparently at 14,525 although I don't know how meaningful that is.

So relieved and very happy

Oooh that is interesting. I will be 40days tommorrow and they will be expecting mine to be around the 14,000 mark (as was 7,000 on sunday) but they didn't mention anything about days- they did comment my HCG levels were high but thought it was probably because of previous pregnancy being so close to this one as there is just no way I am further along than I am as ALL my indicators (OPK, TEMP, EWCM cervix position- correlated to ovulation 25 days ago!).
The doc tried to suggest from my scan size that I was 6 weeks (which I won't be til this thursday) so now I am slightly worried about it growing to fast/not eveloping properly but I think I am being irrational right?

thats great news wasabi i get mine later but doc said she'll be happy as long as they go over 10,000 (they were 6,000 on fri) how are they dating your days? how many weeks etc does that work out at coz we may be around the same mark...maybe im a bit earlier than u. doc said she'll refer me to epu if hormones aren;t rising sufficiently so i just got to wait for the all important call...taken the day off work so am trying to relax

spotting has stopped and the blood amount was miniscule but still enough to cause me worry! im so impatient too which isnt helping as at this stage everything is about waiting!! arrrgggghhh!

Ooops just reread my post and realised how self absorbed I was- Wasabi I am sooooo sorry.

So can we prefix my last post with:

Wasabi- that is brilliant news and those levels sound great.

I wouldn't have posted that if I thought it was going to stress anyone else!

I think they work out number of days just from averages as HCG levels seem to vary so wildly. I am also a bit ahead of where I know I am - on Friday I was 39 days but came up 44-45 so they are dating me nearly a week ahead based on HCG alone. I know my dates are right though as I was temping, doing OPK's etc.

Thandeka I'm not worried as I know HCG levels are so variable. The absolute level matters less than the fact it is going up within the appropiate time frame.

They do say high HCG levels can be a sign of twins.

Thandeka I didn't think that at all! x

and Winjy make sure you post later to let us know your results are ok! x

i will!! phone call could be as late as half 7 tho!! im gonna go insane! and u didnt cause stress or worry at all, just sparked off my curiousity (not that it takes a lot im a nosey bugger!

hope everyone else ok...i know its hard not to be self indulgent at this stage but i am trying!

xxx

Wasabi don't talk to me about twins! I had a lovely lunch out with my husband today: fab! However he nonchantly mentioned twins and I remembered with shock/horror that his mother had been expecting twins before conceiving my DH. Sadly she lost both (5 and 6 months - how AWFUL)although lucky for selfish me 'cos DH wouldn't be here, would he? Anyway this means there are twins in the family.

For those suffering from nausea, do you find it gets worse if you focus on it? Do you see what I mean? We had an appointment with a laywer today and I couldn't help notice that I didn't feel much nausea at all during the appointment. Hmmm. Also is anyone else finding that they prefer eating savoury to sweet things? I find salty food less ms inducing than sugary stuff.

BTW I got an appointment with my gynea in Paris for 22 June. Yippee!

Oh don't worry I wasn't really stressed just enjoying finding out other peoples levels so I have something to obsess over compare mine too.

x

Hurrah for the appt jardins- will they do a scan then do you know?

I have been keeping nausea at bay today with ready salted crisps, iced orange lollys and jaffa cakes so basically complete crap! Though need to get more into habit of trying to eat little and often to keep it at base. Mine defo gets worse if i focus on it but also if I am tired or have been dashing about all day.
In fact off to make a fresh ginger tea.

Hi - I've been lurking on this thread to get a little silent moral support. I have a ds10 and a dd5. I had a mc in 2005 and then nothing until I found out I was pg about 2 weeks ago. (am on the due Feb2010 thread)

I have been trying to be very positive but am really worried now. With my other pregnancies I had bad morning sickness from very early on. Now I am 6weeks and 5 days. When I first found out I was pg I was tired all the time and really sore boobs. Last week I started feeling sick, so was relieved!

It only lasted a couple of days though, and now I'm not tired, not sick and my boobs are only slightly sore.

I'm trying to think up reasons but am very scare I've had another mc but just not started bleeding yet

Sorry - very self indulgent post, I've been worrying all day, rushing to the toilet to check.

Lol at twins - my midwife told me She's putting me down as a high risk of twins! I am an (identical = pure chance) twin however non-identicals run in my Mum's family and my DMIL is a non-identical twin. Then she said maternal age is a factor too - the older you are the more likely to have twins - no!! I'm 35 - thr thought of twins is terrifying!

I don't think there's any of us Stumblebum who don't go to the loo and check to see if we've started bleeding - having a mc is such a terrible experience. I said to my midwife I couldn't talk about anything further on in pregnancy till after 12 weeks - I can't look that far ahead. I'm still checking at 8 weeks don't know when I'll feel more confident.

oh my god im soooooo angry

doctor promised she'd ring me with my hormone results at half 7...still nothing. im worried sick, she knows how worried i am...gonna have to make another appointment in the morning, might just set up camp there!!

on a more positive note, spotting stopped so trying to stay positive

hows everyone else?

hi all just 2 let u know wot hosp said everythings doubld in size but beans heartbeat slow so 10% chance of it going ahead so they told me to prepare for mc go bk friday for another scan but think it will be all over by then hope everyone else is good xxxxx