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40 + Mums and Mums to be - Bellies, Tellis, Vomit and Poo

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Tee2072 · 03/04/2009 18:12

Here's another one!

Come on by if your 40 + and are pregnant, almost pregnant, just pregnant or even just want some virtual cake!!!

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jeanjeannie · 30/04/2009 15:12

Hi heron I posted all about it (about 9 posts up) but it ended up with DD1 Iris being refered to the hospital for possible autism diagnoses-which has been in the air for a while as she doesn't say a heck of a lot and she's 2.5! Verity is apparently VERY short but I've checked with the breastfed only charts you can download from the world health organisation and she's slap in the middle!!!
So not worried there.

Oh forgot to say - we've all got the runs here at JJtowers In the words of the mad glue-sniffing bloke in 'Airplane' "it sure don't smell too good' Ah,,,, you gotta laugh...

jeanjeannie · 30/04/2009 15:13

Ah - X-posts Heron!!

heron22 · 30/04/2009 15:28

tee sorry about the news. jj is right, he is obviously very bright and can easily get another job, maybe not one that he likes. but thats the breaks sometimes. esp when a baby is coming!

heron22 · 30/04/2009 15:29

JJ good to hear Verity is A-ok!
sorry to hear about the runs! nightmare! ur right, u have to laugh!

johnworf · 30/04/2009 16:35

Blimey. If your MiL has been at Bury, then she's probably turned into a quivering jelly Tough up north and all that.

JJ we've been through all the interviews/play observations etc so if you need any tips, then I'll try and muster some just for you She'll be fine. It's just you and OH that won't be . Just kidding. You'll get the hang of it...you just have to get used to their 'little ways'. It's like living with an eccentric aunt/uncle but you soon adapt.

FWIW, DSS is also very bright but only in the hard sciences and maths. Literacy, speech development and creativity is lagging behind his age group but he was also prem and not sure if that's in the mix too.

On the whole you wouldn't know it if you spoke to him....that's when you've been to our house several million times and he'll then actually come and speak to you. Pre-serveral million times, you're still a stranger.

jeanjeannie · 30/04/2009 16:55

Hahahaha jw your DSS sounds totally like my DP Add social skills into the mix too...for example he rang our neighbour, as we'd not seen him for over three months despite all the destruction of his fence in the garden etc, and he said "thought I'd call as I thought you were lying dead inside your house...." Subtlety = Nil point!

MIL is a hard-core lady - think of her good friend (Tory MP and steamy author) AW and add a good figure and cropped grey hair - eh voila; she is feared by most men First Bolton - then Bury....quivering most of them were, as she's swept through telling 'em what's what. They'll be breathing a sigh of relief as it's Thursday and she'll be heading home!! I think she probably arm-wrestles on the quiet She was thrown though by some of the contracts and HR boo boos that she stumbled across. Loves Bury market!

Mate has just told me she's preggie after a miscarriage - so pleased for her Made my day! **Skips off happy

hedgepig · 30/04/2009 18:24

right I am going to post something if kills me , I have been trying to catch up all day.

JJ hope you are feeling calmer after the hV visit. It is good you are in the system for Iris and hopefully you can get so answers finally. I thohght they were suppoased to be using the WHO chart for BF babies??

Tee boo about DH jobs but you are quite right worrying is pointless (I am a hopless worrier myself!)

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johnworf · 30/04/2009 18:49

AWww hedgepig O is so cuddly and chubby faced and completely cute! We have that Galt dinosaur too. K isn't sitting up though (feels left out still). He's a little sweety

JJ your OH sounds like my DH. He leaves women crying in his wake he's so undiplomatic Men probably just think he's odd. Maybe it's these mail order husbands They're all a bit duff!

Think I bumped into your MiL in Ann Summers. She was looking for the haberdashery shop

Tee2072 · 30/04/2009 19:03

So very cute hedgepig! I just want to pinch those cheeks!

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mrsboogie · 30/04/2009 19:24

awww hedgepig such yummy chubby cheeks! I have just ordered that dinosaur too.

tee sorry to hear of your DH's employment worries - still at least he sounds very employable - so should be able to get something else before too long. Would you ever consider trying life on the other side of the Atlantic again?

jj your hv sounds on the ball - good that glad you are getting things moving and hopefully Iris is,if at all, at the very mild end of the spectrum. She'll probably end up a quantum physicist or something...

ermintrude13 · 30/04/2009 19:31

JJ If I was the neighbour I'd have thought your OH was being witty in a contemporary style . There's a reason that the very severe forms of autism have been called Extreme Male Behaviour - my outwardly sociable, arty, articulate DH would do anything to avoid phoning a mum to make an arrangement for lift sharing or play dates .

Tee so sorry to hear that news, and hope firstly that it won't come to pass but that if it does your DH finds some work which he doesn't hate. It is miserable doing a job you don't like but if he can treat it as a temporary measure - and he knows just who he's doing it for - he'll come through. As everyone's said, he's got the skills that are in demand so you never know, something fab might turn up.

hedgepig what a cutie . I feel as though I should order that dinosaur this minute so as not to be left out...

Tabitha8 · 30/04/2009 19:42

It sounds from some of these posts that formula fed babies grow faster. Is that true, or am I being daft?
Beautiful son, Hedgepig with a lovely smile. I hope mine is as cheerful.

ermintrude13 · 30/04/2009 20:04

Tabitha, formula-fed babies tend to put weight on faster than breast-fed babies and consequently grow bigger. Breast milk changes in fat content and calorific value according to babies' requirements as the weeks and months progress (and each feed starts off with 'thinner' milk to quench thirst, changing to richer milk for filling up on), whereas formula is inevitably consistent through each bottle. This means that b/fed babies don't normally over-feed whereas f/fed ones can.

I think the weight/size differences disappear once weaning is under way but of course using f/fed charts starts giving b/feeding mums all sorts of unnecessary anxieties and HVs are supposed to know that there will be a difference.

mrsboogie · 30/04/2009 20:20

why do they use ff charts??

jeanjeannie · 30/04/2009 21:09

Evening all.
Hedgepig Cor - he's a smasher Those cheeks...awwww...now it's little fellas like him that make me feel broody! Both your O and mrsB's chappie look solid young hunks!!

ermintrude do you know my DP? Only that I'd say his wit was off-beat and contemporary!

tabitha I echo what ermintrude says about BF babies. My DD1 was partly BF but due to being prem was put onto something called Nutri-prem formula and you could see the difference once she was on it all the time - she bulked out V quickly. BF babies have their growth spurt in the first few months...then tend to look slinky by comparrison....but not ill or sickly! mrsB NO idea why a good HV doesn't use them. I think it's because such a tiny % of women BF that it's not worth putting a different chart in the Red Book I was stunned at how different the charts are - I mean WAY different!

MIL is having Verity in the morning and Iris in the afternoon after nursery - yay! help is here!!!

hedgepig · 30/04/2009 21:11

thanks for the lovely comments about O [proud mommy emoction!].

The cushion was an ebay bargain, it wasn't listed as a galt dinosaur cushion only as a corner cushion so no one else bid and so I got it for 99p plus p&P hurrah.

Tab FF babies do tend to put on more weight but it is not necessarly so they are really big. O is very small (2nd centile line) and has been there from birth and is FF.

MrsB how is D?? O is very picky about food it seems you have to get the exact window of about 5 mins when he is not too tired or too hungry or else a spoon will not enter his mouth . The HV says if he doesn't eat you shouldn't give a bottle but I can't bring myself to do it at the moment.

hedgepig · 30/04/2009 21:14

x-post JJ. I would say here in cambs that more babies seem to be BF than FF (whihc is splendid) , I felt very self concious getting out a bottle at babay massage when I threw in the towel with BF O. But still they have the standard FF charts in the red book.

hedgepig · 30/04/2009 21:20

JW you mentioned you were looking for a sling in the back of the car buggy. I got one of these for O, it seems pretty good it comes with a footmuff and raincover and is much cheaper than a Mclaren. The seat goes flat for snoozes and pushes pretty well. here

johnworf · 30/04/2009 21:25

K was given BF milk until she was 3 months old. After 4 weeks of BF only milk, the hospital insisted she wasn't gaining enough weight and gave her half Nutriprem (FF) and half my milk. She continued on this cocktail for next 2 months. I have to say, K isn't even on the 50th centile line, she's on the one below and always has been.

In general, formula milk has a higher fat content (methinks) and so babies can become overweight.

hedgepig interesting advice from your HV Never heard that one before. K does well with her solid food; she's on lumps now and has imposed upon herself a milk ban (apart from full bottle first thing, at bedtime and mebbe a quick swig during the day). She now has juice after her proper food. Just started her on a training cup with the juice, which is fun in itself

hedgepig mine was an ebay bargain too for £2.99. You did well!

I've put some new pics up but on FB only. Haven't the energy to post on here as well.

johnworf · 30/04/2009 21:26

Thanks hedgepig for the link. That's just the sort of thing I was looking for; lightweight and quick fold. Will investigate further

jeanjeannie · 30/04/2009 21:36

Just been watching a BF/formula discussion on the BBC programme - with that prof Reagan woman (who DP finds strangely attractive) She mentioned the calorific content of formula. hedgepig I've never heard that advice about holding back a bottle over solids Verity wasn't ready for solids at 6 mths; didn't click with her till she was almost 8mths.

Oooo same TV prog - they're talking about toys...apparently a cardboard box is the nuts of a toy!!! Fabulous ![tight mummy emoticon]

jw shall check out pics

sissy0928 · 30/04/2009 21:41

Tee, so sorry to hear aout your worries, like they say when one door opens...that's what happened to my DH last year. He's not making what he used to but he's loving what he is doing now and there is good potential for moving up, they seem to love him where he's at. He's quite young, (yes I'm what someone referred to as a cougar)and just wants to do what's right, but I told him it'll come. Be patient, and strong!

Well I'm off to meet my new OBGYN, hope he not a hottie! lol.

Good day, ladies, take care.

sissy0928 · 30/04/2009 21:43

Oh I'm laughing at myself!!
I meant the saying "When one door CLOSES, another one always opens" Silly girl.

hedgepig · 30/04/2009 21:50

sissy I find it weird that you are starting your day and we are going to sleepy boboz land! Have fun with your OBGYN

JJ that programme sounds really interesting but I expect it is about to finish, maybe it is repeated.

mrsboogie · 30/04/2009 21:55

arf - there's a small pack of cougars on here sissy

hedgepig that HV's advice so would not work with D. He is not interested in solid food at all. He likes a bit of banana but is just not keen. You can't feed him when he is hungry as he just roars for his bottle - if he isn't hungry he will now retch if food touches his lips. There is, as you say, a tiny window when you might get some in if you're lucky. He will not eat breakfast (on account of the 2 or 3 bottles he has been drinking in the night) and he won't eat when he is tired. I find it nigh on impossible to get meals into him. Working full time doesn't help of course.

I do wonder whether the late weaning has meant that he has got to the point where he has a mind of his own whereas if he had been weaned at four months he would have been more pliable.