40 + Mums and Mums to be - Bellies, Tellis, Vomit and Poo

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Here's another one!

Come on by if your 40 + and are pregnant, almost pregnant, just pregnant or even just want some virtual cake!!!

Is it the 'lets' dance' one mrsb? I know what you mean. Can't stand the trashy harlot myself but that song really gets into your brain....and rots it.

So beautiful here today. Sunny. Been at DD#1's flat this afternoon. Her head is in a pickle what with breaking up with ex and moving at the speed of light. But, DS#1 is staying with her tonight and we've just made up the spare room for him and all looks lovely. Then she's got a couple of shandies in the local pub with her friends tomorrow so she's perked up and is happy again

K having another zizz so off to the shops and then I'm putting my feet up!!!

Well done D! Hurrah!
No choccie here either but I think myself and mrsb will be the envy of everyone when we're doing our twirls in our size 8 jeans

Afternoon all.

How come no one tells you that the third trimester makes you feel like an OAP? I have aches in places I didn't even know existed!

JW I hang my head in shame! Tantalizing you like that and then blowing it.

mrsb I practically already have moved into the spare room! Or I kick DH into there before I even attempt to sleep. But I miss him (you can gag if you want ) and vice versa so we thought we'd try it in the same room. Bad bad bad idea!!

Also glad to hear about Mr D's quick recovery!

JJ do enjoy that snickers! I have been avoiding peanuts due to DH's eczema. Really could use a snickers!

heron Yes, computer and chocolate sounds like a great plan

jw so of the weather you have! sunshine? what is that???grey and wet and dreary here.

tee i know what you mean about 3rd trimester! i really did not enjoy it at all! i remember i could hardly bend down at all. legs swollen, etc, you get the picture!

ah put your feet up and relax! try anyway, cos i remember being so uncomfortable in whatever position. ah, think of the gorgeous baby you will have...

cant believe it is now 5.30pm and i am still in PJs

have not been out all day. the day has got away from me. seemed to either be breasfeeding, expressing, feeding again, made lunch, cleaned up, surfed web in between, gave LO a bath (he screamed the entire time), gave him massage, dressed etc. now it is 5.30pm and he is ready for bed. me too! but PJs now all grotty from the day's work!

anyone had day like me?

JJ - yes, bouncing with excitement here over DW.

Tee- hope your tea is ready in time. Dh is just serving ours up to get it eaten beforehand, kids are bathed and in pjs, the dvd recorder is set up and I am all set to admire the cut of DT's suit...I mean the excellent scriptwriting .

Johnworf - you had better not talk through it!!

Heron - ah, I remember those days. Looking forward to them again (sort of!)

stormfly are you expecting? sorry i have a lot of trouble remembering who is expecting, just had one, on this thread!

heron - yes, no. 3 due in Nov. It is surprising how busy days are with a LO. I have recently read the book 'What Mothers Do' which made me realise just how much is going on in days like those and how much is being achieved. Hope you can get yourself a nice relaxing bath . Gotta dash - DW.

That was an awesome episode! And tea was ready right on time, chicken nachos YUMMY!

i have got that book too! i love it. i read it from time to time to remind myself what i am doing! and how important it is...

DS1 who is nearly 5, is getting a big privelege by being allowed to stay up tonight. we are having sat night tv night!
we might watch dr who. is it too scary for a nearly 5 yr old?

That particular episode wasn't that scary, but I don't know about a 5 year old watching it. It does have monsters!

well Mr D enjoyed Dr Who - he was glued to it!

Heron - my day was v similar to yours!

Ah well that's Dr Who over with. Can get the LO's to bed now Can't wait until it's bedtime for me too.

Never heard or read the book you mentioned stormfly. Still, I've never stood still and thought about what I do as a mother. If I did I suspect there would be more volumes than Encyclopaedia Brittanica. Never been sure about baby books either. How can you write a book about something that is so varied? I suspect there are a lot of first time mums who really get hung up on their LO 'not doing as the book says' which of course is bonkers.

DH has a copy of Toddler Training in the loft. Always makes me cringe. Training a child? Like a dog? Obviously not the same literally but just can't bring myself to even open the front cover.

Glad D is back on form mrsb

heron I agree with Tee that episode wasn't too scary but not sure about a nearly 5 yr old. My brother and I watched DW at that age but my DS wasn't ready for it until about 7. Depends on the child I guess. The monsters are okay but my DS would be upset whenever the assistant got kidnapped or if he couldn't follow the plot. Unpredictable things, kids.

In a similar vein to my previous post, here's a link to an article which I can well believe. Sometimes I think that new mums set themselves up for disappointment with their unachievable goals. I mean if you write on your birth plan 'no medical intervention' and something goes horribly wrong, then you're not going to achieve no medical intervention are you? As I said before, pregnancy, childbirth and raising children is a very unpredictable affair and imposing strict regimes on them is just setting yourself for failure and disappointment.

johnworf sorry, wasn't ignoring you, just xposting. I know what you mean about the 'how to' books. Definately something I won't bother with this time round. The book I mentioned is more an account of different mothering experiences/ways of mothering. Perhaps not an account even, more a series of conversations. One of the only books I've read which I think is there to encourage mothers to trust themselves instead.

I totally agree with that article, JW. I also think there is too much worry about having a natural birth over a CS. Personally? I don't care how this baby gets out of me! Just so long as it gets out!!

its all a load of codswallop, I have never read a baby book and it would never occur to me to. I'm always amazed by these women writing detailed birth plans about no pain relief and what whale music they will listen to. How can you decide what pain relief you will want before you feel the pain? OK if you have issues about things and want to make sure the medical staff know about them in advance then fine, but setting out a plan for a totally unpredictable event is pointless.

mrsb I have been saying that from the beginning.

How can I know what I want to happen at the birth when I've never done this before?!?!

And why the hell would I say no to pain relief? Does it make me a better mother to be in tons of pain during the birth?

ehm nope it doesn't tee! you don't get a medal for suffering

speaking of childbirth I was v surprised by this new "no noise" when pushing thing. When DS1 was born I had been in labour for four days and had an epidural and was knackered so screaming 'til my head fell off was the only way I could manage to do the last pushing bit. This time they were very strict and wouldn't even let me make a sound. They said all noise that comes out of your mouth is "wasted energy" and it should all be directed towards the pushing.

Was all a bit Scientology I felt...

MrsB if they try to stop me making a sound, they might get their heads kicked in - as soon as I'm able to stand, that is.
My birth plan still centres around the "I want to be left alone" idea that I've had from the start. I hope they don't chuck me out of the hospital for being awkward.
Crikey, look at the time. I'm actually still up.

Evening all. Well, I enjoyed DW - taken me ages to get into it....I was more a Torchwood woman myself and I only came by that while being pregnant and slumped on the sofa! Not sure about the girl from Eastenders....she's not going to be his assistant is she? She's very wooden. If you weren't busy having a baby and being loved up in Belfast tee I'd suggest you'd probably make a good, fiesty DW sidekick

DP is happily watching the new series of Red Dwarf....chuckling away to himself.

Baby manuels...MMMmmm. I have friends who swore by 'she-who-must-not-be-named' and I was given the book and did dip into in but I figured if babies came with instructions it would be stuck to their umbilical cord.

I've read many, many MN threads, where months, nay years after the birth woman are grieving because they didn't have the birth they'd planned. Gosh - have these people never been disappointed before? I wonder where this high expectation comes from?

My thoughts (I have a few occasionally) are that in the last 10 years of 'boom' times the woman's mag market has exploded with throw-away features to make us all feel/expect that we should be this perfect person - skinny, cute, glossy, great cook and able to give a winning blow job whilst creating a nutritious packed lunch for 2 beautifully groomed, well mannered children. I know - I've had to write enough of this shite Pulitzer winning material
But this has now spilled over into the pregnacy/birth/child arena. Let's face it - most of these woman who write these books have smelt the ££££. Don't tell me the Baby Led Weaning woman didn't smell the money...

Oh, but I will make an exception for Dr Tania Bryon....as she is a brain box and a great source of information and ideas. She's aloud to write it all day...come the glorious day Citizen.....*runs off when she realises she's turned into Wolfie!

JJ I would love to be a DW companion! And no, she's not going to be one.

One of my really good friends had a very difficult birth with her youngest son. She tells the tale of after it was all over the OB or mid wife wanted to analyse exactly what went wrong. My friend looked her in the eye and said 'why the fuck do I care? I have my baby right here and that's all that matters.'

I actually do read two baby books, Pregnancy and Birth week by week and What to expect when you're expecting. But I use them to see at what stage the baby is at not for any reference as to what I should be feeling.

Glad you ladies are like minded. Totally agree with tee that the emphasis should be on a safe delivery; safe for both mum and LO. Sod the 'no episiotomy'. Well, who the bloody hell in their right mind would opt for one? I've never seen my scar (points down there) but if I could, I'd show it to everyone It's my battle scar and I've bloody well earned it!!

I've not really had a say in any of the 4 births I've had. Not really cared. As you say tee it was just a case of get it out of me! I did write a birthing plan for K - and look what happened there. It was more centred around after the birth and breast feeding and maybe complications with the GD rather than the birth. Hell, I begged for a CS! haha. How unnatural can you get?

JJ correct. We're led to buy into a lifestyle that no one has. Well, no one who is sane

good morning!

Friend just had her baby...10lbs 2oz. GULP!!! No idea the final method of delivery, but I do know she was induced.

Had myself a decent night's sleep with some very weird dreams about people I haven't seen in years.

Happy Easter everyone!!

Morning tee and all you ladies out there - happy easter!

Have a busy day ahead today so prolly won't be around on here much. So much for Sunday being a day of rest.

Have a cut right on the top of my finger which makes it painful-ish to type or peel potatoes. I think that the latter can be a job for DH

Finally had some sleep then tee. Well done!

Congrats to your friend. Sounds like she's had a bruiser (in every sense of the word).