40+ mums-to-be and those who've 'popped' - come say hi, pull up a chair and have some cake!

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Hello everyone - yet another thread. I'm expecting a call anyday soon from ITV - as I imagine we'll be prime candidates for taking over the Loose Women slot when they need a break

So, for anyone interested in joining in with us - just jump in and say Hi - we don't bite - unless you're disguised as a chocolate sponge cake

Ladies..................Take it away

From what I could see ermintrude it did indeed look like Gregg's pasty or a Thomas the Bakers which is think is near enough the same thing.

Yes Metamian is a sticky yellow gunk that jw or jj told me about on here when D had his first red arse - Sudocreme was all I knew in them days - so we tried it and never looked back - he has never had a red arse (that word again) since!

ladymac fair play to you for going out tonight. I haven't been able to eat an evening meal for weeks so I am very jealous of you dining out! In fact, I'm in bed straight after DS at 7'ish so my social life has been something of an oasis for some time. I'm due 3 weeks on Monday and also struggling with my shoes...

I had an appointment at the 'High Risk Clinic' this afternoon and saw the Registrar as the Consultant wasn't there. Everything was fine and I'm seeing my MW tomorrow to complete my Risk Assessment for my HB which they're happy for me to have.

Interestingly, I can still have a HB if I'm up to 2 weeks late but then they'll take me in to induce me. Fingers crossed it doesn't come to that .

Started antenatal classes this week. Has anyone else been? It'll help with the birth plan - no induction, no injection for placenta retrieval, no poking and prodding, etc, etc.
I'd like an Amby for me.

I don't do antenatal classes until about 8 weeks before I'm due. I am quite of those of you who have started!

I've never done midwives' parentcraft classes, but my midwife recommended that I went. Since I'm seriously thinking of a home birth, she said it was the best way of meeting all the midwives on the team, as you can't be certain who will come to you when you go into labour and it's best to meet them all. So hey-ho, I shall join the dark side at some point.

I did the classes on my first and second LO's. Didn't have the time by the third (mind you, if I didn't know it by then I never would do), and of course K gave me no time to even have a refresher course.

I think induction is automatic once you're two weeks + overdue. Even when I was in my early twenties that was fairly normal procedure.

It's very quiet on here tonight. Has everyone gone to a party and not told me the address?

Finally getting the house straight now the decorators have finished. DH is now saying we could do with a new carpet in the dining room Not a chance. It's the dog that's knackered it and while he's still got breath in his body, then the old carpet stays. I know he'll ruin a new one anyway so waste of money. Alternatively we could just go with laminate like the rest of the house. We moved in with this laminate flooring down (the dining room is the only room apart from the stairs that has carpet), and I was a bit apprehensive at first having never experienced it before. Anyway, it's great with kids and dogs. Sweep and mop. Amazed at the amount of fluff/hair/dust/general crap that comes up every day. Down side is it's noisy so we can hear DSS thundering around upstairs like there's a herd of wilderbeast in his bedroom

tee hope you knock this depression on the head before it takes it's grip. I had PND twice and whilst I know it's not the same thing, depression in general is such a blight it's hard to function - well, I found it hard to function. Anyway, hope your GP comes up trumps for you

Good morning ladies!

I slept 'through the night' and feel almost human today . God it's amazing the difference a good night's sleep makes!

johnworf I had read somewhere that if you are 40+ then you are more likely to be induced at an earlier date (?). Knowing me I probably dreamt it . At least I will have a 5 week window starting next Monday to have my HB. DH has been instructed to sort out some industrial plastic sheeting!

Off out for lunch today with my mum and my sister. A shame really as I actually have some energy today and should be chanelling that into sorting out the baby's room .

Morning all.

Nothing like being woken up at 2am needing a wee and then not being able to go back to sleep due to wicked heartburn. Gee, being pregnant is so.much.fun.

Its like being back in the 1st trimester, only the trifecta is depression, heartburn and weeing every two seconds.

Tee2072 I usually have my need-a-wee wake-up call at 3am and then lie there for hours unable to go back to sleep so I sympathise. When I do go for a wee I am desperate but there is about a teaspoon full .

Last night I slept from 8.30pm til 6.30am! A record methinks .

Morning ladies.

tee sorry to hear that you're having the old heartburn. Glass of milk mostly did it for me. Propped almost upright in bed

pintofstella I was told I'd be induced when I was pregnant with K but I'd also asked begged for a CS so I would have had that early anyway. As it turned out I needed neither

Hope you have fun over lunch. May as well enjoy it while you can! I'm off out with my DD#1 tomorrow for our weekly lunch date. Highlight of my week

I'm just wondering if Alexander McQueen has been sniffing the marker pens again. Judging by his collection (headwear including hubcap, wimple, parasol) he's lost the plot. Oh, I do so want to go out to the supermarket looking like a swan Btw, what's with the lippy too? Looks like she's put it on in a wind tunnel.

Eva Herzigova needs a good feed up by the looks of her skeletal frame......and the burning question of the day is who is going to bid on Ebay for one of Katona's breast implants?

JW thank you for reading the DM and reporting back on the burning news of today - so I don't have to . Re: flooring - do you think DSS might like a lovely thick rug for his bedroom next birthday? [wink}.

Duchesse it's a good point about meeting all the midwives - I'll enquire at my 28 wk appt end of this month and see if there's something I can gatecrash. I haven't known either of my other sets of MWs at the birth but it would be nice.

PintofStella, you're sleeping like a very good baby. Hope you pass on the skill!

Tee I get up to wee 3 times in quick succession as soon as I lie in bed, but then manage to sleep til about 6 when the babe is clearly kick-boxing my bladder just for the hell of it. With you all the way on heartburn - I have it after every single tiny thing I eat and just swig Gaviscon Advance like it's going out of fashion. Which it has, surely, always been.

Tabitha mm, a grown-up Amby sounds lovely! Hope you enjoy your classes.

Supposed to be getting on with a lot of work today so will close this window until lunchtime. Willpower! Have good mornings all.

morning all

A nice Gaviscon tablet before bed tee always did the trick for me.

Well, Mr D has yet ANOTHER cold! Every week he has been at the nursery so far he has picked one up. Couldn't eat his breakfast this morning as all the gunk was making him retch.

Last night he decided to get up for an hour's playtime at 11 o'clock. And we had a perfect example of baby led weaning - except it was with a ginger biscuit which he snatched out of my hand and refused to relinquish until there was nothing left of it but a sticky stump which he tried to force down as well. He ate it clutched in his two hands and didn't drop it once - shame he can't manage the same dexterity with all the carrot sticks and rice cakes he manages to drop instantly

johnworf I think a huge swan hat would balance out my hips perfectly

I haven't had any heartburn yet. Think I have that to come - most of my friends said they swigged gaviscon by the gallon.. I've always been a rubbish sleeper so no change there. In my single days it was nice because I would get up, make hot milk (i know, i don't like it either but it makes you sleepy) and then read in bed for a while. Think DP might complain a bit if I did that now.

I haven't felt any more tummy flutters so I'm thinking that was just gas. I'm only 16 weeks so perhaps it was my hyperactive imagination.

Tee hope you're beating the and will soon be a bit more . I know it's easy for others to say though.

I just listened to the end of a program about epidurals on R4. I want that or a CS. Missed most of it though. Did anyone else hear it?

peachy- mine went quiet at the same stage (about 10 days ago). It worried me a lot so I started a thread about it, and most people who answered said theirs had done the same. I think maybe they are growing fast at this point and lie low for a bit.

Do the tablets work mrsb? Cuz I really can't stomache (heh, pun!) the liquid! And of course D drops the rice cakes and carrots. He's a baby, not stupid!!

Thanks peachy. It would help if I could be on my super duper don't be sad meds, but they are really really bad for the baby, so I just have to suffer. Part of me wishes I could get my ass to work, but most of me wants to sit here on the sofa in my PJs reading mumsnet. I may throw on clothes long enough to get a bagel and some bacon. I feel another bacon sarnie coming on...

I'm quaffing the standard fruit flavoured calcium carbonate tablets and they seem to be working fine for me.

Go on, Tee, put on the clothes and go to work. You'll be glad you did it later. Honest. And you can have a particularly nice sandwich for lunch as a treat.

Actually duchesse I won't. Clinical depression doesn't work that way.

well, they worked for me tee I never got as far as trying the liquid. Don't know if they wil be any easier to stomach though.

peachyfox movement comes and goes at that stage - the LO might have moved to a different place where you can't feel it.

tee- I had clinical depression for about 15 years. Believe me, I know whereof you speak.

Then why would you suggest such a thing duchesse? Its like patting me on the head and telling me to 'get over it.'

tee- I did not say you would be better if you went to work. I said you would be glad if you did. For me, the endless days of doing and achieving nothing made me feel even worse. It's baby steps- do a little bit more every day, and before you know it you are back to a "normal" level of activity. Granted, the depression is still there, but it stops getting worse, and eventually you end up so busy that you don't have time to dwell on anything.

Seeing how my mother in law coped with the deaths within the space of 3 years of her 20 yr old son and her husband was key for me in turning my life around completely.

I decided not to let the depression run my life any more- to take the control back from it. I will probably always have depression, but it doesn't hold me back (much) any more. It just gives me a slightly more lugubrious outlook on life from others at times. Every time I feel a bout coming on, I deliberately make a major change in my life- start a new hobby, begin a university course. So far it kept the depression at bay for over 16 years.

That's lovely for you. It doesn't work for me. Never has.

My depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in my brain. Getting up and going to work is not going to change that. Ever.

I've been dealing with this for over 25 years. Trust me on this. The only thing that has ever helped is meds. And I can't take those right now. Not and have a healthy baby.

That's the other problem with depression- it makes you feel alone with something you are absolutely not alone with. I'm really sorry you are feeling shit at the moment. I hope it passes soon.

Morning ladies - sorry not been around been very stressful. What with no sleep and Iris being tres poorly. Anyway - cut a long story short we went to the docs this morning and we're getting an ENT referal. ladymac may need to consult you as Iris may have lost some hearing Looks like her larynx has possibly been affected by the severe infection that hospitalised her a year ago - and basically some of it is still lingering. It would explain her head tilting and many other things. Also we did something called the 'M-Chat' test and she failed spectacularly - so bascially we're probably looking at a mild form of Autism - as she has ZERO forms of non-verbal communication She can't point - at anything..so we have no way of telling what she want and she goes into sheer meltdown. They mentioned that this was also an Asperger's trait too....and Iris is scarily bright - as in she can identify 80% of the alphabet (upper and lower) but can't understand how to ask for a drink! Plus she just can't socialise at all with children - no idea how - so nursery alerted us to that.

Sorry - had to get that off my chest! At least we're doing something about it. Probably go for a private hearing test.

Anyway - tee I can wholeheartedly recommend Ranitadine tablets - they saved my sleep.

jw LOL @ 'swan Hat' Gosh - I've had to sit through many a McQueen fashion show and try not to look confused Probably another reason (apart from a sudden sartorial bypass) why I'm no longer a fashion journalist!

Must away - food needs to be made. I'll try and catch up later x