40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

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Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

Morning all. Haven't slept again. When will it end? God that woman with three was amazing- I'm terrified of having two but on the plus side I don't have to do it again! I'm not sure what pushchair to get. To be honest I only ever used my pushchairs a few times as I don't go shopping (only to Sainsbury's)They just went everywhere in the car seat. I can't contemplate the traumas of having twins and a 6 year old all on my own in the house with only weekend relief.

neddie there's no turning back now No possibility your DH will be around in the week? Sorry to hear you aren't sleeping When I think back to when I was pregnant, I recall that I was an early riser but I'd be in bed at 9pm. Never lost sleep but had mad, vivid dreams. I guess this is nature's way of getting you ready for hardly any sleep?

Oh those pics of Judy Finnigan What on earth has happened to her? She looks wrecked. OOOH and Angus Deayton axed (again) after MPW stamps his foot. hehe. Mad world of celeb.

Morning all. neddie you poor thing - bad sleeping in pregnancy seems so mean. As jw says - no turning back! How long will it be bfore you and DH (to be) will be together for longer chunks of the week?

jw you're probably right with the Freudian interpretation...definately on the pastry-front!

ermintrude those cakes sound a treat. Gosh - only 70! My mum is 80 in April and dad was 85 last month! They don't like a lot of fuss but are rather partial to CAKE so I may have to get my baking hat on

Off for a snowdrop walk at West Wycombe park at the Dashwood estate...it's usually SO pretty...hope it doesn't rain.

Good Lord - just checked out the Finnigan / Madely pics...blimey looks like she's been joining her daughter on a bit of a binge! Wow - there's only 8 years between them. She looks like his mum! He's actually not a bad looking bloke *runs and hides as any cred disappears down back of sofa!

JW I didn't even know who Jay-Z was, so you're waaaaay ahead of me!

jean love the trike with the bucket on the head - I can see mine trying that! (I won't give him any ideas though!)

JJ hope the rain holds off.

Re the Madeley/Finnigan pic, my DH said almost the same thing as you. He said what's a good looking bloke doing with her? Which I thought was rather cruel and I did point out that on tv together, he's always come across as being very devoted to her. DH said she hasn't aged well though has she whereas he has and again, I had to point out that Madeley was younger by about 6 years but she does look older than 60.

On the subject of parents ages, my mum is 62. Yes, she was a nipper when she had me. My dad is 70 this year.

Jay-Z is married to Beyonce and he's one of those rapper guys. I suspect he's a lot of 'yo mr fn' biatch' to his fans but when he gets home, Beyonce makes him paint her toe nails and get the Mr Sheen out.

Morning all.

Having another lazy Sunday around here. Even had a bit of a lie in!

My parents are 71 and 69. My older brother is 42, it took mom and dad 5 years and fertility drugs to have him. Then I cam along 22 months later!! And, yes, it was one of the drugs proven to cause birth defects years later. Hence the hole in his heart that was fixed with open heart surgery when he was 6.

Gosh Tee so your folks were fertility pioneers! Funny how once you've 'opened the floodgates', as it were, people who've needed a hand suddenly manage to conceive naturally. Happens in adoption too - when I was a kid we were friends with a family who'd tried to conceive for years without success, adopted 2 brothers and promptly had FOUR DC, never quite believing that they actually had to use birth control after so many years of infertility .

JJ they were Nigella's brownies which are v gooey and chocolatey and look lovely as a birthday centrepiece. The batch also makes up to 48, though I cut them into 40 slightly larger ones - but they're so rich nobody can have more than two. Not after we'd eaten all the Sainsbury's platters.

JW sorry, brownies all gone but here's a little fairy cake with blue icing and a white flower lovingly splodged positioned by my DC. They washed their hands first, promise.

I love that Sarah Silverman song - hats off to Matt for taking part! Did you see the Jimmy K riposte - I'm fookin Ben Affleck? Much more starry - they had Brad as a pizza delivery guy - but the shock value had gone and it wasn't as funny.

Neddie I hope you and DH to be can soon spend more time together - is that at all on the cards? Twins are such a lot of work, and even a well-meaning 6 yr old won't be that much help. Have you got one of those huge sleep cushiony snakey things to help you get more comfy? I've just been lent one and found it does help - although only after OD-ing on Gaviscon.

Medical question: My placenta is anterior ie. on the belly side of my uterus. Does this make it more likely that that baby will assume a posterior position before birth - facing the placenta - and therefore cause a 'back to back' labour? I could do without that at home! I don't think I knew the placental position with previous DC but they were both spine facing outwards and so well-positioned for birth and I'm just gently worrying about this...

ermintrude I think - although don't quote me on this - that your placenta can shift a bit. with Iris at my first scan the placenta was at the bottom - which isn't good - but had moved when I had the nuchal scan. I know two of my NCT mates has back to back babies and neither was spotted till in labour! So I imagine that they had normal lie placenta. One managed a home birth - the other a c-section - so sounds like it wouldn't be a foregone conclusion anyway. Apparently darn painful though

jw love the thought of Jay-Z (he's no looker is he? ) with a Mr Sheen and polishing cloth...hard man!

tee pleased you got a lie in

DP and his Step father (with his trustee Arkwright coat) have just moved the shed - all in one piece with a sucession of planks of wood - very ingenious!

ermintrude my placenta was anterior and K was not posterior at any of the checks I had. Prolly why I hardly felt any kicks.

Gosh, new thread, so soon? We are a verbose lot! Anyway, I'm back, had a lovely time, took the skiing very easy, followed by a lovely couple of days in the Tuscan foothills. We ate lunch out in the garden, in the sun, two days running. Bliss!

Duchesse Oh Wow Well, apparently it's going to be lovely in the UK this week so you may get even more sun! Good to have you back in one piece

Am not sure that posterior presentation and position of placenta have anything to do with each other. You can't do anything about the position of the placenta, but I discovered from experience that you can change a posterior presenting baby round to the right way around (after two posterior labours I was rather motivated to find out...) The trick is to never, NEVER, EVER, spend any time in the latter half of pregnancy slobbing around on your back- not even watching telly. I found the best position for watching telly was leaning forwards on a pouffe. My children were very small back then, and I also spent a lot of time on all fours. The result was a 4 hour labour, infinitisimally shorter than the first two (38 and 21 hours).

Thanks to all for info about posterior position. I found something on the web that says it's slightly more likely that a baby will face the placenta but that this is more common in first pregnancies - and that many posterior babies turn near the beginning of labour. And Duchesse those turning techniques sound sensible. I have one of those inflatable balls which are supposed to be good for encouraging a forward-tilting posture so I'll start bouncing about on that soon .

I think I'm at the stage where I'm being careful not to count my chickens - having had 2 straightfoward natural labours there's no reason to be overly anxious, but equally it's not a foregone conclusion that this one will be the same. I should just wait until around 34 weeks and see how the land - and the babe - is lying then.

ello all

Sleep free zone here last night. Again. Sigh. Just been for v long walk to wake self up - beautiful weather - you can almost feel spring.

Shheesh - Judy - she looks about 75. Get some slap on woman fer gawd's sake. With her money you think she'd get a little work done - there's a happy medium between looking like your husband's mum and the windtunnel look.

neddie you would be mad to try to do it all on your own. One baby would be bad enough but two? There has to be a solution and now is the time to find it!

Hi all

mrsb I know exactly what you mean, the whole grounds of our hospital is no smoking and yet the times I came out of ante natal and directly the other side of the exit doors there were people, pregnant and not, smoking, there was no other exit to try and avoid it, you just have to go as quickly as possible, too weary now a days to confront any one, god knows the outcome!
Sorry to hear sleepless night again

jj sounds lovely we took a walk down the seafront yesterday, was really nice, you can almost smell spring in the air, until a gust of icy wind reminds you its still a few weeks away yet

Neddie Would be nice for you to have DP around more, especially for the first few weeks, my husband took the first month off, but I do have to say, the actual work, washing, sheet changing etc is more but I haven't found having 2 is necessarily any harder and it is doubly rewarding

I also had a low lying placenta in the begining but wasn't a few weeks later so there must be some kind of movement possible.
Can't comment on natural birth either as after a very long painful labour with my first resulting in an emergency c s all subsequent births were c.s too, they gave me until around 42 weeks with the second and induced me but nothing, I think I just made them too comfortable, I would hardly dialate oh well, at least I have no problems with my pelvic floor

(ermintrude I had an anterior placenta Kez how ever was pushed on my left side because of the position of my fibroid and was a normal delivery but it can mean they lie back to back and you get back pain more during labour and can cause problems at delivery. My Doula did say that there were tricks to encorage a baby over to the left which makes it easier for them to turn into the correct position.

JJ I always throught that the placenta could move but apparently what happens is the lower part of your uterus grows so some Mums with a low lying placenta can find that it appears to move what happens is the uterus in the lower part grows.

Triggles always have Kez facing me in her pushchair I like to talk to her and watch her

I want a big sign to put above Kez when she is eating which says bless this mess because god it is such a mes but she loves it and I love her

Hi everyone!
Great thread
newbie here 42 expecting first child in June so excited and over the moon had wanted children most of my life never in the right situation, but then is there ever the perfect situation.

ermintrude13 I also have an anterior placenta it would appear that it doesn't neccessarily mean that the baby wont be in the optimum position when born. I know someone who's second child was born back to back i.e came out face up and she had no problems and that was sixteen years ago!!

I worry about all sorts of things. I have a very heavy job have to work till I can get maternity pay (am self employed) and any twinge or pain put's me in a panic!

But apart from three weeks when I had horrid all day nausea and felt terrible when I just stood up and no sympathy from friends who thought I was just making the most of it. And of course the hormones!! one day I was crying and laughing at the same time bizarre I can tell you, nearly rang the men in white coats myself lol

Still all fairly calm at the moment and baby kicking well so enjoying it while it lasts!!

It just amazes me that the baby I saw in the pictures at my twenty week scan can actually fit inside my belly!!
I suppose all you experienced mums take it in your stride, but I keep looking down at the bump in absolute awe and disbelief!!!

God don't I ramble please be gentle with me

hello bluepool welcome and congratulations

love the name - very serene

If you've been reading the thread before postingyou will know that some of us have already popped (I have an almost six month old) but we love the thread so much we stayed on. As far as being experienced well my DS1 was born 22 years ago and this time was very much like the first time for me and I am forever on here asking for the most basic advice! Also you are not the only first timer tee is also expecting her first and there may be others- no names come to mind - apols.

don't worry about rambling - we re a terrible lot of natterers on here - we run out of thread space on a very regular basis

Hi bluepool...have some CAKE and CONGRATS!! Lovely to have you around - 42 is a fine age! I didn't start till I was 41 and now, at 43, I've now got 2 under 3 Like you say, never a right time - or in my case the right man - but I resolved that one!

I think having waited so long for my DDs I take none of it for granted and I still sometimes wake up and can't believe what I've fitted in since I turned 40!

Just take it as easy as you can, enjoy it (if you can!) and I'd say get plenty of sleep but none of us here (preggie or popped) seem to get much of that!

We like a good moan now and then - so please feel free to winge at anytime. We're partial to a spot of gossip, the occasional mild debate (nowt too stressful) and plenty of cyber cake Nice to have you with us!

mum41 walk abandoned - Iris has streaming snotty nose and gone to bed and it's spotting with rain - oh well.

kaz Awwww, get you, you soppy thing

Hi there bluepool it is still amazing even when you have done it twice before! I am crying all the time for various reasons- I hope I am not going to be carted off to the funny farm.
Both DP and I were in tears last night over the phone at our predicament (being apart).I wouldn't give a toss if it were DX but I really love this one- I had an epiphany at 41 and found what I had been looking for all these years, like a Mills and Boon story (yes it is a bit sickmaking, but I had been unhappy most of my life due to one trauma or another). This morning I said that we must be strong and I will cope on my own- it's just that I too am self employed and now I'm having to pay someone (quite a lot) to do my work and I am not really earning anything. If I don't sell some horses soon I may have to start eating them!!Sorry to moan.
I hang my head in shame as I think of poor Jade Goody- I hope she has a lovely day even if she is a silly moo most of the time- no one deserves to die so young.

Oh no jj hope Iris doesn't get any worse! good afternoon and night in bed will hopefully keep the dreaded wheezles and sneezles at bay!

Me too Neddie I hope her day goes just how she has always dreamed it would, no one deserve to die so young and no little ones should be without a mum so young, very sad

Hello bluepool Congratulations one of the best thing in the world, being a mum in my forties, actually just being a mum is great and just being forty is great so the two together, well speaks for itself

bluepool you can ramble all you like on here - I usually do. Congrats on your pregnancy. I'm having my 5th but still think pregnancy and birth is a miracle.

Welcome also to msbrandybuck, pintofstella and palmetto. Sure I've forgotten somebody else so apologies.

pintofstella I'm due on April 14th but no 4 was a week early so I'm hoping the same will happen again. Though want to get her birthday (April 2nd) out of the way first. How are you feeling? Would be good to compare notes.

ermintrude a very good tip to get your baby in to the right position is to sit with your hips higher than your knees. Most modern sofas are quite slouchy so if yours is you need to sit with a couple of cushions under your bum. As someone else suggested, spending a bit of time each day on all fours and doing some pelvic rocking is also very good, though you might want to pick a time to do this when your DH isn't going to walk in on you and think it's an invitation

We've been off having a nice rest at the in-laws. The weather was lovely yesterday and their patio is a suntrap so we sat outside the whole morning. Elizabeth had the best time playing with water whilst wearing her pyjamas and wellies. DH and Grace washed the car and had a water fight.

I hadn't felt very well on friday, think it was a bit of a tummy bug with nausea and tummy cramps and most unusually for me, no appetite. Grace was keen to get out and spend some pocket money though so we went to a shopping centre where just as we were about to leave we noticed Elizabeth was missing a hearing aid. It took us about an hour to retrace our steps with me on all fours looking under clothes rails in, of all places, TK Maxx and Primark. When yet another shop assistant didn't speak enough English to know what a hearing aid was I burst in to tears. It takes at least 2 weeks to get a replacement. We left our details with everybody and went home. I decided to phone round all the stores yesterday afternoon and on my last call a lovely lady at Debenhams told me it had just been handed in. Still whistling By the way, it was our first visit to a Primark. What a lot of tat! 12 year old Grace thought it was brilliant and bought herself some black plimsolls for £2. Although they're probably not called plimsolls these days.

Welcome bludpool! Like mrsb said, I'm 40 and also expecting my first in June. ermintrude is also expecting in June, but its not her first!

You should pop around to our Due in June thread. Quite a few of us over there, but of course not all of us are 40+ on that thread!

Well, my lazy Sunday morning turned into a 1.5 hour laundry folding marathon, much to my DH's relief. I've always been in the 'if its clean, why bother to fold it' school, but he likes things neat! I keep telling him to fold them himself, but he's just not getting the message. I did mention to him how much easier it will be to fold when the baby is on the outside as I won't be getting kicked while doing it!!

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