40 + mums with baby tums & those who've already 'popped' with muffin tops - come say Hi!

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Yet ANOTHER thread. Like it says - those of you who've waved bye bye to 39 come and say Hi to us instead.

We think that 40 is the new 20, cyber cake is the new weight-watchers and older mums rock

So, if you fit that description come and play with us. We like cake, gossip an occasional luke warm debate and a good moan! Oh and we're also very friendly and supportive!

OK everyone.....take it away x

tee perhaps this 24 week scan is something they do extra in NI? I had weekly CTG foetal heart monitoring towards then end because of the GD but like I say that was towards the end.

Good afternoon ladies and new ones pintof stella and jessynj oh god I forgot the other
one...well if Kate Winslet can.
LOL Bonzo re TenaLady noooo I had a massive distortion with my rugby player children- just get them to embroider it up for you- I can laugh and no accidents-just do your pelvic floor exercises.
Good news re-stable girl. My ex- girl found that all that glitters at a National Hunt yard is not gold! Can I come back? Answer-Yes-when? -Monday- yes- Result. I am ecstatic as I can tell this one off without her getting the hump.

Ps Thanks for your concern mrsboogie re- my GD. It was a mix up in posting- I was concerned about getting it- I don't have it, thankfully. Especially as I eat enough sugar in a day to make most people ill. DD2 is still a bit poorly, we now have bottom explosions! Oh the fun.

mrsb I was thinking it might have something to do with the diabetes, but 24 weeks does seem awfully early to start doing it. Maybe it is an NI thing!

it does seem early tee guess you'll find out when you go in, anyway its another chance to see the little wriggler so that's good

ahh sorry for diagnosing you with GD neddie

I think I must be the living embodiment of pregnancy brain at the moment

Does it sound just horrendously strange that my 2yo DS's favourite game is to bring me his 6 foam blocks, run to a corner of the room, and wait for me to toss them, while he giggles and hopes I will bounce one of them off his head so he can laugh hysterically? This and paging through the yellow pages phone book and saying the letters and numbers he sees. His 2 favourite games. We are truly an odd house.

doesn't sound the slightest bit strange to me triggles

rather refreshing tale of old-school parenting, albeit enforced, here complete with pram outside the door.

mrsb I just feel sort of sorry for her. But I do like her style!

Peaking of prams, we are probably getting this one: Quinny Buzz 3

My mum is buying it for us, so I am giving her final approval, but of all the ones we tried today (about 4) I really like the manoeuvrability, easy of switching top bits and collapsibility of this one. It will be black! DH is a bit over the price, thinks its a rip off for bits of metal and plastic.

Lordy, that poor woman with all those LO's. Wouldn't fancy that at all. I'd be in the corner, rocking.

Nice pram tee. Seen quite a few of them at school so must be popular. Always a good start. Does it turn around to face you? Newest research advises having baby face you (or dad) for interaction. Know what your OH means about the price. I'm not thinking of getting another pram as I'm really happy with mine but everytime I pass a Bugaboo I really want one and have to try it out. DH isn't impressed with the price of them though.....mind you, there isn't much he is impressed with these days!

mum41 your little game sounds really good to me. And your LO thinks the same by the sounds of it

Reading about Jade Goody's wedding tomorrow has made me feel really sad. She's got a hospital bed in the hotel room with a nurse 'in case she collapses walking down the aisle' DH said before he'd read that she just wants it all over now. I gather she means an end to the pain. How bloody awful is that? I know that my MiL got to the point with her cancer pain that she just accepted death and wanted it over quickly. It must be horrendous for Jade but, and I hasten to add I never give much thought to these type of things, I really hope she has her dream wedding tomorrow

Yes JW you can face it either way. Another thing I like about it! It really is very well designed all around.

What do you think about all that research about advising you to have baby face you in the pushchair? Honestly, DS gets interaction from everyone we pass - and he loves looking at everything going by. He'd be bored out of his mind watching me, I think. Besides, how can I interact with him too much and still watch where I'm going? I tell ya, pedestrian traffic on the High Street is dangerous!

yeah tee nice looking buggy - it was between that and the maxi cosi for us and we plumped for the maxi cosi - can't remember why - probably because we didn't realise the car seat would go in other buggies.

Yeah I feel so sorry for Jade and I hope tomorrow is everything she hopes for. The pain of knowing she will never see her kids grow up and as for what she is supposed to tell them - they are so young and won't understand. It is very sad. I know its a tabloid cliche "brave Jade" and all that but she is being brave to have the wherewithal to plan a wedding and to smile for the cameras and all that.

Triggles I wondered that too. I also wonder if it is kids dumped in their pushchairs all day while mum hangs out around the shops with her mates ignoring them that are showing this delayed development or what ever it was that was a problem with forward facing push chairs! I'm sure if you get the child out and talk to it from time to time it isn't a problem.

Tee nice push chair but I was just wondering go you have a lift to your flat cos it is looks heavy?

very true triggles I sometimes talk to D when wheeling him in the buggy but he is always more interested in looking around at the world passing by. And you don't spend so much time wheeling them around that they are going to be deprived of interaction for very long if they are facing the other way.

It only needs to be facing you when they are very young so that you can keep an eye that they are not after throwing up or whatever.

Its a load of crap as far as I'm concerned

I was thinking the same about the chavvy mums but what sort of interaction is a child going to get from some sour faced mare puffing on a fag and talking to her mate about goin' dahn the bingo.

/assumes Daily Mail reader hoity expression

sorry, but when we have DS out in the pushchair, we're watching traffic and where we're going, mentally putting together a list, and chatting to him as we go. He, meanwhile, is completely ignoring us waving at everyone going by, pointing at cars, and chattering up a storm to anyone that smiles at him. I don't think he's starving for attention! I figure I'm doing more to help him grow by making sure he's not roadkill (by avoiding walking in front of cars) than by "interacting face to face" with him.

Yes, we have a very reliable lift, hedgepig! It is sort of heavy!

I can see keeping baby facing me until its about 6 months or so and then flipping it around so it can see the world.

I'm sure you have Tee I just know sometimes you can get carried away with the excitement of a pram and practicalities sort of fly out of the window. If you get the carry cot the baba will be facing you & gazing up at you adoringly for several months.

Bonzo forgot to say are you on JWs face book? if so I am one of her friends - Helly W and then you can let me know where to send these VBAC books (it is one of my favorite subjects I'm afraid so I will try not to bore everyone here).

For anyone who is interested in the buggy research, here it is.

I know ladymac was also told about this and it was recommended that Betsy faced her as she has hearing impairment. Better ask her though cos it was a while ago and not sure exactly what she was told

LOL mrsb that was a bit harsh

we had the icandy pear for the first 6 months as was suitable from birth for both babies so they were facing towards us but the problem we found was when they became more aware of things around them the baby in the slightly higer seat could see everything and was very content but the baby in the lower seat could only see the back of the other seat and was very grumbly so we HAD to get a side by side (maclaren twin techno) and they are now both much more content.We didn't have alot of choice with twins. I agree very much with mrsb......
You have probably realized (all the smileys probably a dead givaway) but I'm a pretty much happy go lucky kind of person but if there is one thing that really does get me going is seeing mums, any mums, young or old, walking along pushing a buggy with a cigarette in their hands or in some cases just hanging from the mouths, believe me I've seen it!

mum41 what about the mums- to- be walking along - big bump out front and fag in hand?? I really don't know how they have the nerve - I never really noticed it before but saw loads them at it when I was pg myself. And as for the ones coming into the antenatal appointments stinking of fags - I would be expecting the docs to run me out the door!

Crawls in half asleep - back from a haul to Reading Costco....ZZzzzzzz

Hello all. We have a Bugaboo - I blinkin love it decided to keep it as often there's only one DD to take out. I think unless you're a pikey, trawling through town all day with a can of larger and a Avent bottle full of coke, I don't think it makes a lot of difference if they face you or not....except the price

jw lol @ your Jay-Z faux pas!

Triggles sounds like you 2yr DS would get on with my Iris - also two - she LOVES reading catalogues - especially JOJOMaman Bebe and enjoys riding her trike with a bucket on her head...shouting "ne na ne na"

mrsB gawd, what a palava at work - poor you

neddie how excellent you've got your girl back - what a fine boss you must be

Oh - I'm having a Costco pastry.....eek!

Oh I almost forgot jw you made it into my dream last night...not saucy you'll be pleased to hear No, I'd gone back to uni to study poetry (that'll be neddie's fault!)and I was a late-starter so I walked into the full lecture room and you introduced yourself.....you were wearing a green cardi....can't remember the rest

Forgot to say fartmeistergeneral worry not about how old you feel - just care about how you look....nowt like being shallow eh?!

Just got back from lovely family party for dad's 70th - I made a massive pile of brownies, sprinkled choc and white choc stars over them and stuck candles in, and he liked it better than a cake. Also got loads of maternity and baby clothes from sisters and a huge pillow thing to help with sleeping comfortably.

By eck, there's a lot to catch up on. In brief:

JW I am in awe of you being able to have even a stab at the title of a Jay-Z song; I think I'd confuse him with J-Lo or something

Hedgepig ta for lasagne tip - though I suspect I might like it with 5 types of cheese and cream even though I shouldn't

Bonzo when I was a Catholic I loved Lent and stuck to it absolutely from age 9 - not a sweetie would pass my lips for 40 days. Probably don't have the willpower now and the church tends to encourage kids to do something positive like help their mums more rather than go around feeling smug about self-denial, which probably isn't entirely healthy for a developing mind

Triggles your throwing game sounds like completely normal family-type insanity. Just don't start throwing the phone books by accident.

MrsB I hope I've read your posts about pay right and discovered that you will get the pay, it will just be a month late. For a while I thought they were saying they wouldn't pay you for work done

Tee that looks like a cool buggy. Mind you don't start jogging the babe around the streets of Belfast, now, it looks like a kind of Madonna-esque mode of baby transport.

Re fwd/back facing buggies; mine faced the world and don't seem to have suffered. I expect it is helpful for hearing-impaired babes to see mum or dad talking to them but I used to chat inanely to my kids when we were out and about even when I couldn't see their faces. They were probably rolling their eyes in boredom or sleeping, but it kept me happy . I mainly used a sling in the early months anyway, and as soon as they got the strength to keep their heads up they much preferred facing away from me - I used to take a little mirror out so I could see if they needed their noses wiping.

Am exhausted! Off to read the Guardian and feel relieved I'm not expecting triplets.

ermintrude you could have saved me a cake. They sound lovely

Ah yes, the green cardie dream JJ. I've just thumbed through my copy of Freud's Interpretation of Dreams and it says.........you weren't breastfed for long enough and you have severe penis envy - that'll be the symbolism of the green.

Obviously now you're sat there with a fat pastry in your mouth, you also have oral fixation

Ah crap, The Bourne Conspiracy is on tv and I can't look at Matt Damon anymore without singing the 'I fooked Matt Damon' song by Sarah Silverman.

Off for a foot rub and bed methinks. yawn