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I have treated my pregnant wife like utter cr*p. What can I do to make it up to her?

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Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:11

I've been depressed for about a year and a half now and have taken it all out on my DW. She has been patient and kind to me and I have been abusive an cruel back (not physically abusive, but emotionally nasty). I told her it was all her fault that I was down, and she just took it and looked after me. I convinced her that she had issues and smashed her self-esteem, so that the focus wasn't on me. I refused to get help until one night when I finally took it too far and humiliated her in front of my friends. We managed to sort things out and she persuaded me to get counselling and start taking ADs.

Unfortunately I knew best and stopped taking them - which led to the day she had to take me to the doctors to stop me from doing something really terrible.

A couple of months after this I decided I was better (I now know that it was the ADs kicking in, but I didn't want to be the pathetic man on ADs), so stopped taking the ADs - without telling her or my GP or my counsellor. My behaviour towards her got worse. This coincided with us finding out that she is preg with dc3 (something we both wanted, although the timing was terrible). We had had miscarriages before and so the first few months were very stressful for her.

I didn't do anything to help as I was spiralling down again. In fact I shouted at her when she cried or got sad because it made me feel worse.

Then the day of her scan - when she asked me to be there for her because she was so sure the baby was dead - I went walkabout and left her to cope on her own. She even forgave me for that. But I kept on being nasty and selfish and cruel to her. And she was being there for me less and less, so I got worse and worse. Until she found out that I wasn't taking my ADs and was so upset. I told her it was none of her business - which I regret, but it was how I felt (which is ridiculous when you consider that she was the only person being really affected by my behaviour).

She was so sad. I told her I would get better and went back on ADs - but a lower dose. She said she couldn't cope with me anymore But I knew I could be her husband again if she let me.

She is so scared of losing the baby and I keep making everything about me.

She has given me so many chances and I have blown them all. I want to be better, but it's so hard to keep thinking about her needs.

She's now in her 3rd trimester. She's sad and lonely and crippled by hip problems. She says she doesn't know if she wants me to be at the birth or not, or if we can make it.

I can't help but take it personally if she is hormonal or upset. I find jobs to do around the house so I don't have to be in the same room as her.

I want to make her feel special. I've barely even treated her as a human throughout this pregnancy, let alone as the mother of my children and the goddess that she is. I promise her the world and deliver nothing.

Please, please, please can you suggest ways that I can make this up to her. How can I treat her in a way that is real and not just papering over the cracks. I want to show her that I love her. I am trying to change my behaviour, but I need to make it up to her too.

Any suggestions? Leaving the house is diffficult for her and the dcs are always here too. I need little ways to treat her everyday and big ways to show her that I'm thinking of her.

All you lovely mums out there, please help.

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CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:17

Have you tried couples counselling? You have an awful lot to deal with on your own.

I would say that she sounds at the end of her tether but if you both really want to make it work then that would really really help.

You could start by keeping on with your ADs even if you feel better. Write yourself a letter now and put it somewhere telling yourself how bad things are and how you feel and telling yourself that even if you do feel better, if you stop taking them you will end up here again. I am not saying take them forever but come off them with the help of your doc and tell your wife - she can probably spot the symptoms of your depression returning sooner than you can iykwim, so she needs to be involved.

Also, before you say something to her stop and think about how it would make her feel.

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:17

there is nothing pathetic about being on ADs by the way. At least you have acknowledged you have a problem and are trying to help yourself - that takes courage you know!

ConnorTraceptive · 29/01/2009 11:18

TAKE THE AD'S!!!!!

Seriously if they started to help you then that is the best gift you can give her. I was terrified of taking AD's and put it off for a year, but they made such a huge difference in my life. It is not weak to take them and it doesn't have to be forever I took them for a year.

Sorry but treats and little gestures are not enough. Help yourself and that will help her

luckywinner · 29/01/2009 11:19

Show her this thread. As a start it may help her to see that you know how you have been behaving towards her.

I too suffered/suffer from depression and have on occasion behaved in a similar manner to my dh.

After 5 years of therapy (and still counting!) things are finally coming good. I think it takes a while to get better so if you can hang on in there with any treatment you are having it will get better, and may help your wife feel better.

I have to dash so sorry I can't put more but its really good you have been able to acknowledge how you have behaved. Its a brave and hard thing to acknowledge.

clumsymum · 29/01/2009 11:20

How about telling HER what you have told us?

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:20

Have you had therapy or just the ADs?

Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:21

I am taking the ADs, I am seeing the counsellor and I am improving. I am determined to get better now, and DW supports me in this completely.

But I want something that isn't just about me - everything has been about me - I want to do something that is just for her. To make her feel special (which she really needs).

I will not be coming off the ADs again for a long time - and not until DW, counsellor and GP all agree it is time.

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SugaryBits · 29/01/2009 11:21

I think it will take a very long time to regain her trust but obviously you hae to start somewhere... I would suggest things like taking the other DC out so she can have some time alone to relax, have a bath etc. Make her life easier- bath the kids/clean/do packed lunches/ironing etc.
Have you talked to her about your behaviour? You need to be completely honest with her, perhaps writing a letter would help.
Al only small things but will hopefully make her realise you want to support her and are trying to make up for the past.

Mummyfor3 · 29/01/2009 11:22

Stop beating yourself up about your behaviour - AND CHANGE IT!
Learn from your prev experiences and stay on your AD.
Continue counselling - on your own and maybe also as a couple
You can only make it up to her if your behaviour towards her actually changes in the future: If I was her, forget flowers/chocolates/jewellery; you would have to prove yourself in actions and deeds and it would take me some time to trust you again.
If you find this harsh: only my opinion, take it or leave it.

Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:23

She knows all this. And I say I'm sorry, but I keep slipping up (which I feel terrible for). I am trying and she is being brilliant, but she needs more from me. I haven't done anything nice for her in so long. I just want to spoil her (as well as do all the real things that need doing).

I want to make her smile again.

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ConnorTraceptive · 29/01/2009 11:25

I agree with sugarybits, simple things that actually help her will make the difference. Lighten her load around the house

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:26

I think you need to fix the fundamentals before any gestures will be taken in the spirit you want to give them.

Concentrate on getting yourself better and being kinder and more thoughtful towards her. Try and put her first as much as you can and be unselfish even if you don't feel like it.

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:26

And don't feel terrible for slipping up
Of course you will and she knows that by the sounds of things

TotalChaos · 29/01/2009 11:28

agree with other posters - I think day to day if you help her out with kids and chores as much as you can. And listen to her - if she says she feels rough etc, sound sympathetic. And try and talk to your counsellor or someone else rather than her about how bad you feel when you have a dip.

Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:28

Mummyfor3 - that's what she would say. I am trying to change my behaviour. I want to. And it is getting better. But my automatic response is to think of how hurt I am, and not how hurt she is. I am so ashamed and that makes my behaviour worse - counselling is helping with this -as I then seem to be unable to do anything.

She doesn't trust me, and she shouldn't, she has been hurt so much.

She says she wants to be the woman complaining because her dh fusses over her too much

I do do plenty around the house and with the dcs, but a lot of this is I know a subconscious attempt to avoid her and her sadness.

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skay · 29/01/2009 11:29

I agree with Luckywinner. Show her this thread. If it's possible printout what you've written on this thread. Maybe look at it every so often.

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:29

Why are you depressed? I mean was there a trigger or did it just happen gradually?

Mummyfor3 · 29/01/2009 11:30

Stop feeling sorry for yourself and putting her on some kind of pedestal.

I am getting very impatient with this over the top self flagellation and looking for grand gestures to make everrthing better again.

CountessDracula · 29/01/2009 11:31

I don't think getting impatient helps!
Behavioural changes don't happen overnight.
Have you had any CBT?

TotalChaos · 29/01/2009 11:34

you need to reconnect with her - so that you have some shared interests/dialogue not involving your depression.

Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:36

Depression started gradually. It began because I was blaming myself for everything that was wrong (which at the time wasn't much). Unfortunately I now realise that the angrier and more upset I got with myself, the more I projected it onto her. So I was always angry and blaming her for everything.

Mummyof3 - this is getting spooky - are you my DW? That is almost word for word what she says to me.

I just need to find a way to open communication again (we had a brilliant Christmas, but then I slipped back into denial about my depression and then got angry with her for pointing out that I wasn't better, and everything went down hill from there.

Could someone please just give me a slap and tell me to snap out of it?

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Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:37

Totalchaos - that's exactly it, any ideas how I can do this?

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Badhusband · 29/01/2009 11:39

No CBT at the moment, working on the causes of my behaviour. DW has suggested CBT a few times. Perhaps I should give it a go. I do feel like counselling is finally helping.

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protectingmypersonalstuff · 29/01/2009 11:41

I have had to change my name to protect some personal info but I just could not let this go unanswered!!

As a partner to someone who suffers from depression I can relate to every bit of this. My DP is a lovely man really, when he is well I could not ask for anyone better but when he is down he takes it out on me. He gets angry and frustrated with other people and then verbally take it out on me as he doesnt have the confidence to address the situations directly.

I am not going to lie to you it hurts like hell and I do flip between wanting to help him to not being able to deal with it. He is also too much of a "man" to want to take medication.

The best thing you can do, and I am sure the thing she wants most in the world, is for you to make a sustained effort in looking after yourself! She has so much to worry about already with your 2 DC and another on the way, her own health and normal family stuff. It is fine that she should worry about you a little bit but she cant let it take over her life! Depression is catching! you expend all your energy understanding the other person and you are left emotionally drained yourself. I dont mean you to feel guilty about that but all the chocolates and flowers in the world arent going to make that better - give her some time and space to look after herself, support her in that! and visibly show that you are making the effort to get better - i.e. tahke your ADs in front of her if you have to, talk to her, address propblems in your own life and aknowledge the problems between you. It can get better but it is BLOODY hard work.

P.s - I found donuts helped too

onlywantsone · 29/01/2009 11:42

Show her this thread - show her exactly what you've just told us.

Go and speak to your GP and sort out correct dossage etc of AD's.

Be brave - she will need you.