Please help me

[MummyToLeon]

Sorry to bother again.

Im getting pains in my lower stomach and back that feel like im in labour but im only 23 weeks pregnant. I didnt have this with my first baby and im scared. I dont think i am in labour but thats the only way i could think to describe the pains. It's not constant, just on and off but when it happens its so painful.

your right m2o, mabye my trolldar is out?

The thing that gets me is that she is posting a genuine problem- she isnt asking for some crazy half wit opinion about killing her husband- its a genuine problem. And do you know what? If she is a troll, I'll take my chances and try to help anyway. And if I found out it was a lie I'd shrug my shoulders and get on with my life.

Ive been watching this thread but not responding because i dont want to get stressed as its not good for my baby. I just wanted to say thank you though.

Yes i can understand people not believing im genuine, you can never know someone on the internet is genuine unless you meet them and their family. Im not asking you to believe me, im just asking you to help me. Whether or not you do is your choice. Ive found mn to be a GREAT help to me recently. Im not going to justify myself as i dont feel i need to. But to those who have helped, thank you.

It was suspected that my waters had leaked big time when pg with Dd. I think I was about 26 weeks at the time, maybe a bit less. I wasn't given any injections/drips etc, just a scan which showed reduced fluid. They wanted me to stay in, but I insisted on going home. I returned the next day for steroid injections as a precaution. So it is entirely possible that MTL is genuine.

Hope all is well MTL, it's very worrying ~ I know!

Solo, did you go to full term in the end?

Yes and a week over! she was 2 on Boxing Day! How are you?

Awh bless! Thats a relief to hear that! Been looking on the internet and its all scare stories where the baby arrives a week later Glad to hear something positive Im knackered but baby is wide awake so no chance of sleep yet! You?

Well, Dd arrived just fine and I'm sure a lot of others go to term too...You'll be just fine. Those steroid injections aren't too bad. In your buttock! The first one was fine, but left a bruise, the second one the following day hurt, but no bruise ~ or the other way round can't remember, I just remember thinking that it was to safeguard my daughter and I didn't care how much it hurt. I was never advised not to have a bath though...

I'm off to bed to try to sleep...my ME is bad right now and I'm shattered but don't sleep...Dc's are asleep up early too

SMM - Leon is 27 weeks. She is 23 weeks pregnant. Meaning she conceived when Leon was about 6 weeks old as the first 2 weeks are before you conceive as they are dated from your LMP. As Leon was only 6 weeks old when she conceived she obviously didn't have a LMP to go on and that is probably why her dates are all messed up.

It's not that difficult to work out is it.

Also MTL did stop breastfeeding but a couple of weeks later a friend told her how she could restart it I think.

How are you today MTL?

Can I just point out to others as well- I am sure we have all been eagerly watching worzselmummages thread about her water breaking at 22 weeks- worszel mummage did not stay in hospital and the hospital would not give steroids till 24 weeks. That is standard practise as the pregnancy is not classed as viable till 24 weeks which is horrendous as babies survive sooner than that.

Hope you are ok MTL and this thread has not put you off asking for advice in the future.

WM was kept in. She was also on IV antibiotics and went into detail about having to have vaginal swabs etc. Someone else told how they were having to have blood tests every week and were put on bed rest for the entire pregnancy from their waters going at 22 weeks. It's bollocks - I'm sorry but I don't like to see people wasting their time when someone is taking the piss. Read through the threads - none of them add up - the dates are all over the place - hospitals do not date pregnancies wrong by 4 weeks that late in! The nuchal results - everything.

Believe what you want but it's foolish to waste your time when someone is clearly having a laugh at your expense.

Just because MTL hasnt gone into loads of detail doesnt mean she is lying! WM had infection from a stitch, just because MTL has not said anything about infections does not make me think 'liar'. Each case is individual and would be treated as such.

I appreciate what you are saying but I'd just take my chances if I thought someone needed help. My gut instinct is that she is confused about her dates and has asked for help- what is the point in crucifying the poor girl? Just walk away if you dont believe her. But if others choose to help then that is their decision.

Similar thing happened to my friend. They wouldn't give steroids before 24 weeks. All they did was give oral antibiotics.

Hi

Certain people have put me off asking for help tbh. I cant be bothered with the stress of what other people that i dont even know think of me!! But at the end of the day it is their choice. Everyone gets mixed up with dates dont they at some point in their pregnancy??!!

if you are at real risk of prem labour, then you should be taking advice from a midwife/obstetrician
am sorry for being but women at risk of prem labour receive a lot more in depth care than you origionally posted.

there was an instance a few months ago where a woman was posting saying she was having pains etc etc . some sort of domestic violence situation. lots of people gave her advice , told her to call 999 etc

she came back a few days later posting pics on her profile of anotehr woman's prem baby , claiming it as her own, when the pic had been lifted off a website

when i first joined MN, a young woman claimed to have given birth at 28 weeks, and was home and breastfeeding teh baby within 2 weeks

people do lie about such things, and i am sorry for being less than convinced by your story, at the end of the day, i wish you well, as i posted earlier

however, it is a fact that people do lie about their pregnancies/births

sad but true

How did your appointment go with the doctor today, M2L?

Oh gosh yeah I remember that thread Lulu. Was so upset about that woman who had the domestic violence going on and then had her baby premature and it ended up being all made up. I was really upset by all that

I'm glad not everyone is doubting MTL. I don't know why everyone is saying it was treated too casually. They examined her and she wasn't dilating the cervix was still thick, took a swab of the waters, gave her an injection to stop labour, told her to book a scan and the gp gave her an injection yesterday called cyclizine to stop any infection. They said she could stay in if she wanted but she chose to go home instead. Seems like pretty in depth care to me.

Hey, MTL, I haven't posted since the first OP but I'm glad things are going OK. FWIW, I had premature contractions with my ds1. I called it pre-mature labor for the longest time and it wasn't until I was pg with ds2 that my OB said it sounded more like pre-mature contractions which weren't quite as serious. But I went on to carry ds1 all the way until 40 weeks when my water broke exactly on my due date!

Best of luck

Nappyaddict, cyclizine is an anti-emetic drug - an antihistamine that stops sickness. Nothing to do with infection

From the BNF - the resource used by NHS doctors for prescribing drugs:

"CYCLIZINE

4 Central nervous system > 4.6 Drugs used in nausea and vertigo > Antihistamines > CYCLIZINE
Motion sickness

4 Central nervous system > 4.6 Drugs used in nausea and vertigo > Motion sickness
Valoid®

4 Central nervous system > 4.6 Drugs used in nausea and vertigo > Antihistamines > CYCLIZINE > Valoid®
Migril®

4 Central nervous system > 4.7 Analgesics > 4.7.4 Antimigraine drugs > 4.7.4.1 Treatment of acute migraine > Ergot alkaloids > ERGOTAMINE TARTRATE > Migril®
Cyclizine

Appendix 2 Liver disease > Table of drugs to be avoided or used with caution in liver disease > Antihistamines > Sedating antihistamines > Cyclizine
Cyclizine

Appendix 4 Pregnancy > Table of drugs to be avoided or used with caution in pregnancy > Antihistamines > Sedating antihistamines > Cyclizine
Injection with antiemetic

4 Central nervous system > 4.7 Analgesics > 4.7.2 Opioid analgesics > MORPHINE SALTS > Injection with antiemetic
Diconal®

4 Central nervous system > 4.7 Analgesics > 4.7.2 Opioid analgesics > DIPIPANONE HYDROCHLORIDE > Diconal®
Cyclimorph®

4 Central nervous system > 4.7 Analgesics > 4.7.2 Opioid analgesics > MORPHINE SALTS > Injection with antiemetic > Cyclimorph®
Postoperative nausea and vomiting

4 Central nervous system > 4.6 Drugs used in nausea and vertigo > Postoperative nausea and vomiting
Syringe drivers

Guidance on prescribing > Prescribing in palliative care > Syringe drivers
3.4.1 Antihistamines

3 Respiratory system > 3.4 Antihistamines, hyposensitisation, and allergic emergencies > 3.4.1 Antihistamines
2.10.1 Management of myocardial infarction

2 Cardiovascular system > 2.10 Myocardial infarction and fibrinolysis > 2.10.1 Management of myocardial infarction
Miscellaneous conditions

Guidance on prescribing > Prescribing in palliative care > Miscellaneous conditions
Product Label List

Appendix 9 Cautionary and advisory labels for dispensed medicines > Product Label List"

Sorry Nappyaddict, but it is the 'details' like this that make me

(C&Pd from another thread about PROM/premature labour)

"By joyfuleyes on Sun 30-Nov-08 14:14:06

Hi Worzsel, my mum's a midwife at our local unit - I asked her to email me theur protocol on PROMs, I thought it might be helpful to have a kind of second opinion about management, I know how much NHS units vary.

A low vaginal swab should be sent for culture and sensitivity

An ultrasound to assess liquor volume, confirm presentation and estimate fetal weight

Bloods for FBC and CRP

A digital vaginal examination should not be performed (to avoid infection and release of prostaglandins, which may stimulate the process)

there is benefit to both maternal and fetal outcomes with the use of antibiotics in PPROM - oral Erythromycin 250mg qds (4 times a day) for 7 days (Clarithromycin if allergic).

if there is evidence of infection (offensive liquor, pyrexia >37.5 C, maternal/fetal tachycardia, uterine tenderness) intravenous Penicillin and should be used.

If the woman is not contracting and has no signs of infection, she should be admitted for observation for 48-72 hours

If presentation is cephalic, and swabs/MSU show no growth and CTGs are reassuring, she may be discharged and managed as an outpatient.

Non cephalic presentations with PPROM are at increased risk of cord prolapse and are managed as an inpatient.

Low vaginal swabs should be taken weekly together with blood for FBC and CRP.

CTGs perfomed twice weekly.

repeat courses of antibiotics may be prescribed in clinic.

Ultrasound scans perfomed weekly to assess liquor volume for those at risk of developing fetal pulmonary hypoplasia (PROM /= 26 weeks of pregnancy, who are thought likely to deliver before 34 completed weeks of pregnancy, should receive steroid prophylaxis"

I really really hope there is no trolling here, that would be so insulting to people who really go through the hell of PROM.