Pregnancy After Miscarriage Part V....Still checking those knickers? Check together here :0)

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New thread for knicker checkers every where

Off to catch up with and link the old thread.

good news on the CVS ladyhelen

I hope your taking it easy.

ladylush, how is the spotting? I hope it has calmed down.

daisy5 I cannot believe you cannot get some form of screening. What a postcode lottery this NHS is!
Personally, having just been through the nuchal roulette wheel, I would plump straight for CVS. Don't bother with the nuchal. Chances are your odds will be low due to your age ( sorry to sound harsh but you know what I mean) and then you just have the worry. With CVS you get a definate yes or no and my results were ready 27 hours ( yes I counted!) after the test. I think you can have the CVS done as early as 9 weeks too but perhaps the chances of miscarriage would be higher. From all that I've read the FMS in London would be the place to go if you have to do it privately. Good luck with it. Its so hard especially for those of us with a history of mc. I got to 12 weeks and was ready to relax only to have the nuchal bring me crashing back down to earth. What will be next I keep wondering.

Ladyhelen that's brilliant news about the CVS - you must be so relieved

My consultant is trying to talk me into having the nuchal done - not because of chromosome abnormalities but because of cardiac problems (which can also cause a larger nuchal thickness), even though the baby's post mortem didn't shpw any heart problems I've already told her that the only way we'd consider having invasive testing is if the 20 week scan showed abnormalities associated with a trisomy that was incompatible with life. It is a minefield & I could do without thinking about it atm.

Worrying about symptoms/lack of symptoms/disappearing symptoms & lots of horrid stretching pains sigh - 21 days until next scan!

ladyhelen, ses and looby - thanks for your messages of support. I'm surprised how stressed out it has made me, and on top of it I am 8+5 today which is the age at which my last little one didn't make it .

Thanks for your advice. I had the quadruple test with my dd at 38 (birth age 39) and got the fantastic result of 1:2,900 so was ecstatic with that at the time, but realise that was three years ago and I am guessing each pregnancy is independent and just because I got a great result then, doesn't mean I would again.

I have put a question on the Pregnancy thread about where people got their CVS done. The thought of taking the train down to London and paying £450 is quite unpleasant I guess I will see what the options are.

Thanks so much.

ladyhelen just popping in quickly to say fantastic news - that's great. sometmes the nuchal results can be so misleading - my colleague at work worried the whole time until she had her baby who was perfect! tis great that you can relax now and enjoy the rest of the pregnancy!!

Hi laydeeeez Sorry sorry sorry has taken me so long to post - time has just flown by and have only just got to grips with getting back on laptop again.

Stella is gorgeous (of course wink]) and doing really well - very BIG (maybe why she refused to come out the usual route?) and alert and demanding of her mums poor boobs - am a milk cow at the moment.

DH back at work today so I'm glued to sofa - we did make it out for a walk and lunch yesterday - very proud ofourselves! However we're still shame faced when she starts wailing - my only tactic is to shove boob in her mouth (maybe why nips so sore ahem). Will take a pic now and put it on my profile.

Hope everyone healthy and well - sending baby dusted vibes to you all
big mummy love from pops
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Hi all

Takes time to catch up with all the reading and only couple days ago since i posted!

Good luck for sat LoobyLou36 keeping everything crossed for you! Just to join your conversation I also agree it's awful how NHS is selecting how to treat people depending on postal codes Who gives the government the right to play GOD with our lives it should be the same treatment offered across the board! thats better got that off my chest!!!!

Oh and dan39 you did make me chuckle...... cheers for the thought but it did read a lille wierd but def cheered me up tho!!!!!!

Just popping in to say hi

ladyh and ses - GREAT news!

lackadaisy - hope you don't have too much longer to wait now - time must be going so s-l-o-w-l-y.

joyful - good for you standing your ground - it's so hard when you are put under pressure.

daisy5 - I hope you get the information you need to make the choice that's best for you. Must be a tough day for you - I know I found it really hard at 11 weeks, which is when I lost my first lo.

perkypopsy - sounds lovely - I'm . Looking forward to seeing pics.

Hi, all!

Just wanted to say ladyhelen and ses - yippee!

roque how are you? Thinking of you and hope everything is OK.

What do you think of this? Some of you may remember that my SIL came over with her perfect newborn on Tues, the day after I had an inconclusive 7 week scan. She questioned me about every detail of my various mcs, then said "Well, at least you can conceive, thousands of women can't". Would you have been upset by this?!

sussex of course I'd have been upset! Some people say ridiculous things. Just after my MC/ERPC in June, a friend called me to say she 'knew exactly' how I felt as she had had some bleeding a couple of weeks earlier but everything was fine and now she was 12 weeks and had a really low risk in her nuchal and she was due the day before I would have been!! I literally had to say congratulations, get off the phone and sob to my DH. Insensitivity (sp?) drives me mad!!

How you feeling anyway hon?

Ses have you come down off cloud 9 yet? (no need to - stay up there for as long as possible!!)

LadyH - great news from the CVS. Hope you've got your feet up and getting some rest.

Have to dash so "helloooo" to everyone else (including lovely Stella ;))

sussex I got that loads last year specifically from my mum - sympathy is definately not in her vocabulary.

I have to admit I had to bite my lip on more than one occassion befor exploding "yes it's bloody great isn't it being able to get pg then lose it 3 times in a year!!!!!!!".

However in my more sane times I do feel slightly more philosophical as I have a friend who hasn't been able to conceive and is awaiting 1st IVF course and another friend who had IVF and a mc just after my 1st mc. Luckily she had a fairy tale ending getting pg on next IVF and is now proud mum to a beautiful DS.

I had to listen to loads of well meaning
at least you have your DD
You can try again, you seem to be able to get pg easily
Be thankful for nice DH/house/life
It's not the end of the world
At least they were early and you didn't lose a real baby
and my favourite - by a MW "it's like green cars when you want a green car you see loads of people with green cars (when I said after 2nd mc that I felt everywhere I looked there was babies / bumps.

Hence I switched off to rl and got my support / moans heard by the lovely people on here who know how cutting the what not to say remarks are.

I'm not bitter really

sparky and scotlass, you are both spot on. I can't grizzle to my DP about her, as she's his wonderful big sis (double grrr), and my Mum is just like yours, scotlass. I've had it all from her, from "Don't think about it, just concentrate on your lovely new kitchen" to "You've got DS, why do you want more" (well, I don't want the miserable only child life for him that I had, Mother! )

I love you people. You make me feel so much better!

Jeez, my Boss found in his drawer some gorgeous chocolate truffles that had melted into one large piece today. We cut it up and scoffed the lot [bleurgh emoticon]. I really must get fit ...

sussex at the comments you have to endure. i guess it's one of those things - those who didnt go through what we've gone through will never know how farking stupid their comments are, well meaning tho they may be. like sparky and scotlass have listed, most of us have heard similar comments. on good days you grin and bear it, on wobbly days (which was most of the time), run into a dark corner and sob. it's really hurtful.

glad you managed to indulge in choc truffles tho - mmm...now that the morning sickness has dissipated, i am on a rampage for cakes, choc, cookies, anything sweet - i frighten myself.

TMD how are you faring these days? glad to hear that you are back on the TTC wagon - wishing you lots of baby dust.

popsy - stella is gorgeous - congrats again. cant wait to be in your shoes!

sussex - agree with others I would have felt upset too. It's really no help to know that you can conceive if you then keep mcing, it just isn't!

With ds2 it took me 12 months to get pg but it was then utterly straightforward, this time I have been pg 3 times in 9 mths, lost 2 and look like am losing this one too..tbh this year has been FAR the more stressful.

No consolation but I think people don't mean to be unkind, just that they don't think; well, they should!!

Thanks for thinking of me sussex - i have got more bleeding now, reddish brown, so am guessing that it's all over . Will take a break from ttc i think...

Oh no Roquefort - are you sure? I hope not I agree - imo it can even be more cruel to conceive easily but continually m/c

Daisy - spotting stopped tues night. Really hoping it was implantation. No pains at all. Boobs still sensitive. Hope it's a keeper. I got an appt. for an early scan tomorrow but don't want to go as they won't see anything, will just ask me to go back again in 2-3 weeks and I think the less poking around up there the better!

sussex I'd've been furious When I was in theatre recovery after my first loss (I had a massive blood loss from an abruption) the recovery nurse said to me 'at least you can get pregnant' If I hadn't have just nearly died I'd have punched her. How are you doing?

roquefort no! I hope you're not.

Oh no, roque no no no

Is there any point getting to an EPU tomorrow first thing, or A&E this evening?

Oh roque no! Check it out, please...bleeding is not automatically the end, see someone.

Agree 100% with dan - please check it out, roque

Hi again! ladylush so glad to hear your spotting has stopped - that sounds really positive, and thanks for your good wishes.

sussex and dan I know where you're coming from, and I'm sure I would say the same to anyone else, but I'm just not sure I'm up to going to EPU etc at the moment. I'm so convinced it's all over - feeling crampy now too - and strangely calm, plus as it's so early - 5 wks tomorrow - there wouldn't be much to see on a scan so I'd rather avoid that. Plus, all 3 other dcs are around for half term and we have a packed schedule so logistics are hard.

However, I am currently thinking I will try to see GP sometime next week just to get it on record/clarify depending on what's happened. I really am so grateful for everyone's concern and help - you are all stars on this thread!

Hi all,

I'm not doing too badly thanks bunnyinheadlights however bit low today getting stomach cramps and moody so think period on it's way. I am having dreams tho which I only seem to do when I was preg but not reading too much into that. sussexoldspot none of my family are aware I have mc again as I can't abare the well you know that's what happened to so-in-so and there ok now with x number kids....... and my mother too just trys to hard to be sympathetic but wallows in other people's grief not what either of us need. Trying again has been slow process bit of a mental block with me I want too but at same time scared of it happening all over again. Oh hormones have a lot to answer for feeling very sorry for myself today. Think I'll throw myself into halloween plans My little one not really old enough to join in but I can enjoy dressing up tho!!!!!! Happy haunting all!!!!

I know what you mean about the wallowing, TMD. I know Mum's only trying to help and perk me up, but sometimes we just want to wallow a bit ourselves, don't we? And we deserve it.

Are you OK, roque?

We're also trying to throw ourselves into things at this end - we're heading up to Lincolnshire tomorrow, as it's DS's birthday on Monday and we're having a family party. We're returning on Wed, then two days busy at work, then a weekend, then it'll be time for the follow-up scan again on Mon 10th first thing. Just can't imagine that there'll be a heartbeat, but still feel pregnant, but with only very mild nausea. I keep getting a sensation that everything is OK, but am unable to go with it. I just daren't.

Talking of haunting, I work in Older people's mental health and our offices are in a creaky Victorian building with lots of endless corridors (I've only been in the job for a month). I had been doing some really involved work yesterday afternoon and suddenly looked at the clock and it was 5.10pm and I was the last one in the building - it was in total darkness. I had to go to the kitchen to wash a cup and on my way back to my office, I had such a strong feeling that something was right behind me, it scared the living daylights out of me! When I got back to my office, I was shaking physically - in fact, typing this now is making the hairs stand up on my arms. I have truly never been so scared in my life!

roque - thinking of you and crossing all kinds of appendages in hope that all is still fine.

roque dont want to get your hopes up - but i had lots of bleeding with this pg - even (sorry for tmi) clots and lots of red and cramps. they could never find the source. just take it easy - if your epu will see you today that may be good to get some peace of mind.

sussex your post made my hair stand up on end! i am totally superstitious that way and believe that there are other presences around us despite strong christian beliefs/background. maybe all the horror movies i have watched in the past! spooky tho, i would have scarpered out of there toute suite!

tmd - i know what you mean. with my second mc (which was 3 mths after the first) my mom said well, i did think it was a bit too soon to try. (!! as if i brought it on myself!) most others who knew said well, at least you have dd. which i felt was equivalent to saying - oh don't worry that all your teeth have fallen out at least you still have gums left to chew your food... (i know not the best analogy, but i did feel like screaming I Just Lost a Baby!!!! which part of that did you not understand??!!). do take care tho - it's a mental battle so dont be hard on yourself during this time.

anyway hope all you ladies enjoy an extra rummage through the halloween candy pile and Indulge