Vaccines = autism?

[Demdem6]

Hello

so I am currently pregnant with a baby boy and my partner is strongly against getting him vaccinated when he gets here as he believes vaccines cause / increase risk of autism,
especially in boys

id never thought twice about this but now hes put it in my head. Yes ive done my own research but hes saying doctors and the internet will tell you what you want to hear because they want you to vaccinate your kids. Tbh hes a conspiracy theorist

i just want to hear from people who vaccinated their sons and their son didn’t develop it? I know some people will shout at me for this, not my intention to offend anyone

I’m going to pull you up on your approach.

Why are you making a decision about your child’s health based on anecdotes of randoms on an anonymous forum? I could literally write anything! People can claim anything…

Other posters are giving you medical journal information because that’s the level of evidence that you should be weighing up when you make a decision like this, and if the information is too difficult for you to understand and form a conclusion from, why not trust the doctors who have years of professional experience?

But you'd risk your own child's life on the say-so of someone you admit is a conspiracy theorist who has no medical training whatsoever.

Where have you got your information from! It was not forced on people - I volunteered at a vaccine centre - people were grateful to have it.
The Covid vaccines are highly effective and have gone through three phases of clinical trials as any other vaccine would. Time was saved during development through different strategies, for example manufacturing the vaccines during the same time as the trials.

You shouldn’t have children if you don’t want live by society’s rules and norms. Your children are not more important than everyone else’s children.

I think it's quite clear that all the mums disagree with your husband! We can safely say that none of these mums would put their child at risk and all made informed decisions. Maybe your husband should look at countries without the same vaccination programmes and see if he prefers those outcomes?
You can understand hearing something and it causing a bit of worry, like you said it's in your head now, but people that think the entire international medical world is lying to us all and put fervent faith in the odd person who claims to be a whistle blower, are ridiculous, imo.
You're pregnant and don't need to be worrying about having a baby with a conspiracy theorist, comments that try to worry you aren't helpful, but you are going to have to be strong and stand your ground with him in the future. Not many couples are on exactly the same page with their parenting so don't worry, we're nearly all in a similar boat!
There are lots of neurodiverse children around and I would say most families realise through their child's diagnosis, that one of them or their own parents are, too. That's why so many adults are being diagnosed now.
Try not to let it get too much in your head and enjoy your pregnancy, hopefully your husband can, too.

But there is no risk. Even if there was , would you rather your child had autism or die/be seriously ill?

You're risking your child getting horrible diseases. Google measles, mumps, polio, rubella and look at the long term problems caused by having either of them.

Much longer than 2 years but don’t let facts get in the way 🙄

But you'd also be putting your own child at risk by not vaccinating, which would be ery sad.

I've an auntie who is blind in one eye from chicken pox, as soon as the vaccine became available I made sure my child had because I want her to be as protected as possible.

To reassure you, there is no scientific link between vaccinations and autism so your child will be fine to have them.

Actually that’s ALL that matters.

Vaccines = protection against some awful illnesses.

Vaccines do not equal autism. I have two girls and a boy, no Autism, also no measles

It was.
They hadn't.

It was the first ever Mrna vaccine used in earnest, new because Covid 19 itself was new.

I was worried too but I looked up the science and decided on balance it was the right thing to do to have it.

What negative effects have you seen on anyone who did have the covid vaccine?

Thanks guys :) I’m off now to enjoy my Sunday!

How does he explain why people had autism before vaccinations? Because they did.

It makes people very angry when someone chooses to create a person and then, instead of doing everything they can to make that child safe and protect them at all costs, decides they won’t take one step which costs them nothing and could prevent that child from dying. The idea that a bunch of strangers care more about your baby’s welfare than you do should make you feel ashamed, not amused.

Your frivolous response here makes you look just as idiotic as the father.

Unless you’re an anti vax propagandist who’s making this up, I suggest you have a word with yourself.

You're fighting the wrong battle here and will just make the OP "know" she is right.

The disease itself was less than 2 years old when the first vaccines were released.

I have three sons, all have had all their childhood vaccinations.

My middle son has Asperger’s, my other two have nothing. My Dad has undiagnosed autism and I suspect others in the family too. I agree with other posters about genetics playing a key part. But I’m no Dr or scientist.

I hear your concerns, I felt the same (about autism but not vaccines) when I was pregnant top. I went down a rabbit hole with pesticides and all
sorts. It can really take the shine off of what should be a wonderful experience, but, it can’t be helped. My unvalidated, personal opinion is that our environment and food also have a lot to answer for, but again, I’m no professional.

I think it’s wholly unhelpful that people are questioning your choices and telling you to leave your partner. This is very extreme and the harsh side of MumsNet.

However, you do have to find as much parenting harmony as possibly between you and so joint research and understanding the cons of not vaccinating is probably key (and let’s face it, they’re huge).

Enjoy your pregnancy xx

Yes why would you read the actual evidence rather than random anecdotes from people on the internet?

People are angry because you’re being blasé and ‘lol’ about vaccinations which impact the safety of your unborn child.

And you have a very stupid partner.

And don’t play the victim here, you must have known this is a stupidly rage baiting topic!

Which illness would you like your child to die of then OP? Measles? Polio? Parents from the past could’ve only dreamed of a cure to save their children. We now have preventative measures and you’d not vaccinate?

believing vaccines cause autism aside because it’s ridiculous, would you rather have an autistic child or a dead one?

If your son ends up with an Autism diagnosis then its because he already has it, tucked up all comfy in your womb, affected by nothing but genetics.

Autistic children aren't monsters by the way.

Yes u should get vaccines. And so what if that makes your kid artistic. That don't always mean he's gay

Oh right, here on the wind-up are you? Byeee!

That’s not how evidence of safety and efficacy of vaccinations works.

Why would you be reassured by asking a tiny pool of people on an internet forum and not a mass controlled study that accurately pulls data?

You’re simply doing the ‘same’ thing on an infinitely lower scale with infinitely lower quality and control of results. How does that reassure you?