Vaccines = autism?

[Demdem6]

Hello

so I am currently pregnant with a baby boy and my partner is strongly against getting him vaccinated when he gets here as he believes vaccines cause / increase risk of autism,
especially in boys

id never thought twice about this but now hes put it in my head. Yes ive done my own research but hes saying doctors and the internet will tell you what you want to hear because they want you to vaccinate your kids. Tbh hes a conspiracy theorist

i just want to hear from people who vaccinated their sons and their son didn’t develop it? I know some people will shout at me for this, not my intention to offend anyone

@mumofb2
Vaccinations are outdated?

Why? Because the diseases they protect against are pretty much eradicated?

👀👀👀 il wait

Also research the potential consequences of catching the diseases you are vaccinating against … measles, mumps, rubella, meningitis etc etc.

No Medical procedure is without risk … but please research the documented side affects that have been reported rather than discredited research from 30 years ago

The strongest link so far to autism is genetic … BUT they are still researching and trying to unravel a lot about it.

OP, please vaccinate your child, vaccines are the reason we have removed much of the risk of previously common disease that killed so many children.

There was speculation, years ago, driven primarily by one doctor, who was subsequently struck off that the combined MMR vaccine could cause issues (such as autism) - however that was conclusively debunked a long time ago.

Measles, Mumps and rubella are nasty, potentially fatal illnesses that vaccination prevents, it's that simple.

The Covid vaccine brought back many of the "anti vax" theories - sceptics were concerned by its rapid development and wide roll out - some forms of that vaccine (particularly the Astra Zeneca) did have a higher risk profile than most vaccines commonly administered, but they have now been withdrawn, and still did much good in an emergency situation.

The Covid vaccine was also the first of a revolutionary development MRNA vaccines, unfortunately, those who didn't understand science properly were concerned the vaccines could alter the DNA in us - that was never the case, but a lot of chattering by ill informed people on You Tube gave rise to vaccine hesitancy.

Your partner has obviously read a lot of this crap - and being concerned for your baby - has taken it as gospel, however he is wrong.

Get your child vaccinated - and good luck with motherhood

This is a very strange mindset. Vaccines are advised because you can get very ill without them, that does not mean everyone will, but why take the chance? ‘Oh my child might get measles… oh but I’m sure they’ll be fine like I was during covid without the vaccine’. I mean it is your choice to not to get the Covid jab, like it is to not get your child vaccinated but why put your child at risk of a potentially deadly illness that is preventable?! You don’t need people on the internet to tell you what to do but I know I couldn’t forgive myself if my child died when it could have been prevented.

"hes saying doctors and the internet will tell you what you want to hear because they want you to vaccinate your kids"

And where did he get his information from exactly?

Cool, just don’t forget the tin foil hats for you and your DP!

Are you related to trump ? Are you yourself as stupid as your partner !??

History went like this....

Thousands of years - very little scientific knowledge - many people died and many didn't make it through childhood.

Hundreds of years - some scientific knowledge - lots died - and lots didn'take it through childhood.

Decades - golden age - huge breakthroughs - infant mortality rate decreases rapidly and most (in developed countries) make it through childhood.

The internet years - rise in misinformation. Undereducated/low cognitive ability start to mistrust science - rise in rates of childhood diseases like measles.

When I see posts like this, I always think of mothers 100 years ago watching their kids die of measles and think how they would despair of this sort stupidity. Then I think educators must be doing a bad job somewhere along the line.

I think conspiracy theorists are the type of people who actually want to understand the world and are curious.... They just get it wrong either because of poor education or cognitive limitations.

Do people still really believe that well denounced rubbish though I can see how with rfk jr in the US administration
No vaccinations don't cause autism
Anecdotal stories of individuals don't make science.
Yes I have two vaccinated boys no autism
Millions and millions of people do

Obviously there are people who have been vaccinated and are not autistic. That is a large majority of adults and children in this country. Go into any public space and they are everywhere.

I think it’s understandable that people are upset. People who don’t vaccinate their children put all other children at risk. It is anti social not to vaccinate. Anti social behaviour tends to make people upset.

Three sons here, all vaccinated, none with autism.

Has your idiot partner's research extended into the rates of death and serious disability amongst children who catch the diseases we vaccinate against? Is he vaccinated himself?

OP is a dreadful person

This entire theory came from a doctor (Andrew Wakefield) who published a fraudulent paper apparently showing a link between MMR and autism. The paper was found to be false (it was retracted by the journal), the data was either incorrect or fabricated, they didn’t have ethics (to perform a series of invasive tests on children) and Wakefield had been hired by the lawyer of a bunch of anti-vax parents to perform the “study”. He was also getting paid off by the parents and he had his own vaccine patented he could cash in on once MMR was off the table. Because of this he was struck off the medical register and can never practice medicine in the UK again. It’s all utter bollocks spread on social media by incompetent people who claim to have “done their research”. Be a good parent, protect your child from diseases that can harm and kill them.

I work with autistic children and I find it deeply offensive that someone would rather have their child die of a preventable disease than have Autism. I really want them to do an add campaign where they show lots of happy healthy children (who happen to be autistic), then compare that to another child dead or dying in a hospital of a disease that could have been prevented with a simple vaccine. Which, by the way does not cause autism!
I hate the doctor that first made up this rubbish. Autism is inherited, there is no link to vaccines at all.
sorry rant over

And you don’t seem to understand English. If he hadn’t had the flu vaccine, he was 27 times more likely to have died.

I’d rather take those statistics than your fingers crossed.

But lots of people didnt?!

Covid was so unpredictable. There has not been another disease like it. Usually a disease affects everyone with similar symptoms (measles, chicken pox, flu etc) severity can waiver depending on your immune system but its pretty much textbook for everyone.

Covid was very random...every had different symptoms, no symptoms, very healthy people with no prior health issues ended up seriously ill in hospital, some sadly died, some people had it and didnt know they had it, some people never seemed to catch it despite being very close contact with those that did (i was one of these people)

Even just in my family my two children suffered very differently each time they had it, I apparently never caught it (tested religiously because of my dad being inmunocompromised)
The vaccine response was because of the unpredictable aspect of the disease.

Great news that you were fine. But you took a gamble 🤷‍♀️

Have you checked whether there is autism on either side of the family?

Do you realise the likelihood of your children catching XYZ diseases is only low because other people vaccinate their children?

Polio was a dreadful disease, when I was younger I used to see many people with leg irons from it. My DH has scarred eyes from measles and I had whooping cough as a child. All these diseases are horrible and dangerous. People seem to have forgotten about them.
Vaccinate your child.
BTW I have 3 sons, all vaccinated. None with autism.

Three sons. All vaccinated. No autism. Im
a medical professional who ( in the genuine sense) “did my research”. I also was part of the Covid vaccine roll out project.

Why did you opt out? Do you think it's OK that your children may become seriously ill with permanent effects on their health? Is it OK that they might put vulnerable people who are immunologically compromised at very serious risk?

Also, just for information, I am immune suppressed.

I had measles as a child (not nice, but the vaccine there was back then wasn't that widely used -- note I didn't have that vaccine but I am autistic anyway!), so once I was immune.

However, the fresh outbreaks of measles amongst unvaccinated children in our community now pose a real threat to me as my past immunity can't be relied on (neither would a vaccine work on me now because of my immune suppression).

I rely on the healthy majority to vaccinate so I can safely work in schools, like other vulnerable people.

I know of two families who believed that the vaccines were the cause of their first child's autism so they didn't vaccinate their second child. Both families second child was also autistic.

My own son has autism and it was apparent long before the vaccinations. All of my nephews on my side of the family are autistic so it's genetics in our case.

Because your child, who is innocent regardless of how stupid his parents might be, could die if you don't vaccinate him.

Children dying or becoming seriously ill from preventable diseases is horrible and people are rightly 'triggered' that you'd consider taking this risk just because your partner is a conspiracy theorist.