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Fabulous 40+ and Proud: Mum and Mums to be Part 2

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Kaz1967 · 16/06/2008 18:45

Ok we have talked to the end of the topic so here is a new one

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LOVEMYMUM · 25/07/2008 22:42

Hi johnworf.

Have been following your thread on the premature site.

Pleased your Katherine is better (i also have a Katherine, aka Katie).

pwcbird · 26/07/2008 07:52

Hello ladies,
Had lovely day yesterday - DH pulled out all the stops and got some lovely pressies - including a HANDBAG that he chose himself and it's really nice. Amazing ...
Got the babysitters booked for tonight so going out for a nice meal. Hurrah.

Have I said that it's fab news that K is in bury JW? I don't think I have I've been so wrapped up in myself but am really chuffed - and her in her own suite too! very smart. Bury's not far away from where DH's family is so I know where you mean. Great news.

It's too sticky isn't it. I hate this sticky.

Kaz1967 · 26/07/2008 10:31

Not sure how many others are on facebook or if anyone is interested but us July 2008 Mums have our own group on there and it is great to make that extra connection with people and though maybe is 40+ Mums could do with one too. So if interested come join the Fabulous 40+ and Proud Mumsnet Mums and Mums to be

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Kaz1967 · 26/07/2008 10:33

pwcbird hope you have a great night tonight

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jeanjeannie · 26/07/2008 10:57

Morning all. Have snuffly blocked sinuses today and didn't get much sleep....so a tad grump and sticky. Yep, pwcbird sticky is wrong. Hope your birthday celebration were fab....and a handbag....wow....and he picked a good one

Off to friends house to play croquet this afternoon....oh darn....where is my favourite tea dress?! Suppose I should make sure the children are washed and fragrant...we're going to a 'nice' part of the world !

pwcbird · 26/07/2008 12:11

Talking about fragrant children jj, I just took DS to tesco in his vest he slept in (though did add some shorts and shoes). What is becoming of me? With Tesco chav-crowd though don't think anyone noticed....

Not sure thinking I might be having some 'round ligament pain' (which I think is right at this time 22 weeks) at the mo as yesterday/today having sort of period type pains and back ache. Not terrible pain or anything but dull aches and sometimes to one side - sort of ovary like. I am astounded that although ds was only 2 yrs ago I just can't remember what pains I had then. I think it's something that nature does to a womans brain to make her forget pregnancy/childbirth so that she has more children...

Will check out the link kaz

jeanjeannie · 26/07/2008 13:08

Ah yes, forgetting what pregnancy is really like - nature's only way of securing that we do it more than once I reckon.

BTW pwcbird DP has just informed me that he's heading off to croydon soon...to do a job...is there some sort of dress code that he should be adhering to....in order to 'blend in' with the locals. He has a white van - so I thought a rolled up copy of The Sun should help....
Any thoughts then do let us know....a 'wife beater' vest perhaps?

Yes - will check out the link kaz...cheers

mrsjupiter · 26/07/2008 13:20

OMG! I've just realised that I took my clothes off in full view of a whole bank of flats opposite -skirt, bra, shirt, everything but knickers and vest top - and used the breast pump. I'm just not used to being overlooked so when I turned the lights on I totally forgot to close the curtains. The Chinese aren't too bothered about privacy so none of them have their curtains closed and probably got a real eyeful. Have just crawled over tiled floor on hands and knees to close curtains. How can I make this unhappen?!

Moving on. Sorry for absence again. As you've probably realised from the above, we've now moved into a serviced apartment near the hospital. Contrary to what they told us, the internet connection was not ready when we moved in and we've just got it today. We've been able to check our email on and off by pirating someone else's unsecured wireless connection, but it's been really unstable and always went off when I wanted to post.

Our daughter now has a first name - Eva (going with Ey-va as pronunciation, not Ee-va). We'd always liked it but when we remembered it meant "life" it just seemed so appropriate. If she'd been born in China she would never have made it.

I think things are going quite well. I say think because I've been too scared to read up on the subject. This is totally unlike me - I usually inform myself obsessively - but I have a sense that if I know too much I will always be expecting the worst instead of staying positive.

As of today Eva has reached her birthweight again and beaten it by 1g (she's now 1.15), and with the exception of a blip earlier this week has had her milk increased by 1ml per hour every day. She's now on 6ml per hour and is tolerating it quite well. The nurses tell me her blood gases are good and that her kidneys and heart are working properly. But but but, they keep emphasising how small she is and that her condition can change at any moment, so I'm on tenterhooks.

JW when you said once how annoyed you were that they had done some tests on Katherine without telling you, I was really outraged - totally on the same page with you. In HK they do it all the time and I've surprised myself by being quite pleased because then I don't have a chance to worry in advance. They even did the brain scan without telling me. I thought, I really should be angry, but just felt relief I didn't know. I'm turning into a different person!

My milk hasn't come - I pump every three or four hours throughout the day and night and am enjoying fenugreeky burps (not) - but still only get drops. Very frustrated. I know how important breast milk is for her and I'm starting to lose faith that I can do it.

I did read up on the Kangaroo care JW and Kaz - thanks for the links - and I really want to do it. I'm desperate to hold her plus it might help my milk to come. They won't hear of it here though - they keep telling me that it might disturb the cpap which I think is kind of missing the point - culturally they really like to keep total control and they're so great in every other way I don't know how far to push.

Anyway, that's all for now. Sorry it's all me me me, now that I'm connected again I'll try to engage in the topics at hand like a normal person.

ipanemagirl · 26/07/2008 13:48

Hello and all the best to the FAB40 expectants and those who've had arrivals.
mrs jupiter, love the name Eva btw. And how amazing to be in China, haven't kept up with this thread (during my days of pg-denial so don't know you're history) but re breast pumping, I didn't ever get that much out with those handpumps which was a drag. Just occaionally I got loads but was never very good at it. I have friends who swear by the electric ones and say you can get vast vats out of them! But I have no idea what's available to you there!
jeanjeanie that sounds awful grand but I wish you had your teadress to hand.

Still fat ankles...
Huge row with dh today who bought me a washing line I didn't want. Nice guy. He'd done something 'helpful' why wasn't I grateful? He offered to bring me tea in bed and then didn 't come back for 25 mins so I was too hungry and thirsty so went down myself. He's in a grouch because I didn't fill the tank with petrol.
Am v fed up with him today! And the heat makes this pg malarkey HARD WORK!
pwcbird have a lovely night tonight, sounds great.

I want to go to see Mamma Mia!

All the best to all.

Fattyanklesxxxx

ipanemagirl · 26/07/2008 13:50

can you IMAGINE the moaning if men had to do the pregnancy bit, the histrionic hypochondria, the moaning, the endless lists of discomforts!!!!

hedgepig · 26/07/2008 13:59

MrsJ don't worry about the neighbours they will just think it is a cultural thing! . Eva is a lovely name. it sounds like she is putting weight on well and making progress so fingers crossed all will be OK.

PCWbird have a lovley night out hopefully it will be somewhere cool.

Kaz1967 · 26/07/2008 14:36

mrsjupiter I did wonder if you would have a cultural issue with Kangaroo care one of the links I gave was I think a research one it may be worth printing it off and actually showing them. It can be done without dislodging CPAP I have done it on ventilated babies and even if CPAP comes off for a few seconds or a minute or too it is no real problem and the benefits outweigh any slight problems. I would say be a little pushy if anyone comments put it down to cultural differences.

Re the breast milk it is a very very common problem, some Mums really struggle with expressing milk it maybe that you are one of them, you can only do your best try very hard to relax about it (imposable I know) I know there are all sorts of benefits to it and ideally you want your LO to have it but babies develop beautifully even without it. If you are getting a few drops then when she is able to go to the breast it will increase.

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pwcbird · 26/07/2008 15:01

jeanjeannie probably too late now but would suggest England shirt and track suit bottoms would suit nicely(if he wants to add a bit of class then make it the England away red shirt)

johnworf · 26/07/2008 17:25

mrsjupiter I have held and cuddled (plus Kangaroo care) katherine both on ventilator and CPAP. However I know how things change just from hospital to hospital so I can see how they've come up with you can't hold her. Must be really hard not to have held her yet. I had Katherine out to play today but hadn't since Wednesday and her move. I've left her to settle until today.

Fully understand the milk situation. I was lucky in that I've BF before but it was hard going without a baby to help give your body the signals. My milk has gone now but I do believe there is some medication that can stimulate your milk supply - sorry can't recall the name of it. Lovely name btw

Ipanemagirl did I read this right? Your DH bought you a washing line??? I know where I would have shoved it......

pwcbird hope you have a fantastic night out tonight now you've formulated the escape plan! Have a few shandies for me too [ink]

Kaz1967 · 26/07/2008 21:05

2 medicines that can help with milk supply both need to be prescribed domperidone I believe is the one of choice now the other is Metoclopramide both are normally drugs used to stop you feeling or being sick and have a side effect of increasing milk production for many Mums

www.clinicalanswers.nhs.uk/index.cfm?question=8483
www.breastfeedingonline.com/domperidone.shtml
www.breastfeeding.org/articles/reglan.html

if you cannot get them or they do not work then as I said try no to worry you can only do your best

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johnworf · 26/07/2008 22:20

yeah that's it kaz1967 domperidone! when I first heard a nurse talking about it I thought she said 'Dom Perignon' which I didn't think you could get on a prescription.....

FloriaTosca · 26/07/2008 22:32

Hi all
Deep sympathy to those suffering pg in this heat...
JW gald you got to play with K today
MrsJ My cousin didnt get along with the breast pump well when she had her prem DD either..but she kept it up and as soon as lo could latch on her milk production went into over drive... hang on in there, I hope it improves for you soon....oh and love the name Eva...I'm sure she'll be off cpap and in your arms in no time.
Kaz Hope Keziah has got over her over indulgence.
Ipanemagirl If men had to endure pregnancy the human race would never have survived!
Oue news is that the polystyrene tiles brought the ceiling down so we are now plasterboarding the ceiling and have called in a plasterer to skim it over...ho hum..

FloriaTosca · 26/07/2008 22:33

that should have been "glad" not gald

Kaz1967 · 27/07/2008 09:34

FloriaTosca Kezzy is continuously being indulged sadly I love it. I am even getting beaming smiles now so makes me do it all the more

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Kaz1967 · 27/07/2008 09:41

Can I add mrsjupiter

"I'll try to engage in the topics at hand like a normal person"

You are very normal you have an extreemly pre term daughter and your brain is concentrating on her think most of us would be the same.

Kezzy is asleep on her tummy its nearly the only position I can put her down on her own and not carry her all the time bit worrying but suppose if I only do it when I am in the same room and we have no other cot death risk factors (I am breastfeeding, don't smoke... it's ok ish getting to the stage it's anything to get a hot drink and some food inside me

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mrsboogie · 27/07/2008 12:38

mornin all

Kaz - your post makes me think I have forgotten more than I ever knew - beaming smiles already?

and is breastfeeding supposed to reduce cot death risk? I imagined it would because of the antibacterial effect but I am not sure of the stats etc...I haven't looked it up yet.

and, finally if you only put her down on her tummy will that not allow her to become accustomed to only sleeping in that position? will she cry if you don't?

another scorcher, I see.

jeanjeannie · 27/07/2008 13:15

Gosh - the thread's been busy.
mrsjupiter great to hear you're all holding up and Eva is doing well...btw love the name Try not to panic about your milk....I know it's easier said than done. Expressing is odd and I know when I was in special care with DD1 I found expressing relentless and very unrewarding..but I did my best and she eventually got some but I was tld that some women find it very hard even when thet successfully breastfeed. Don't get too disheartened...sounds to me like you're doing an amazing job ....even if you are flashing at the neighbours !

kaz my LO loves tummy sleep too! Have to say she sleeps so much better like that. Don't do it at night (too nervous)but it's the only way I can get her to have a good daytime sleep.

pwcbird ta for the fashion tip....DP will look nice in a footie strip Did you have nice night out?

johnworf · 27/07/2008 13:44

Blinkin' heck chuck....it's crackin flags here. Phew.

Off to trim my bush (ooh matron) in the front garden as it's now officially a triffid - tapping on the window and quietly asking to 'be let in'...yep gardening day today.

I'm sure Tesco Direct have a sale on so I'm sure I can find something nice that takes my fancy to sit out in the garden on. If not then I'll find something I'm sure

Successful Ikea trip y'day. I made DH get out of bed at 8am to avoid crowds. Made it round in one piece (even time for a lovely cuppa halfway) but sadly some items I'd put on my list of purchases were not up to scratch in real life.

K is doing well today and I've taken off the vest that I have only just let her wear. Meany aren't I? It's far too warm to be vest weather.

She's having her first round of vaccinations tomorrow and I must say I'm fretting already. NO idea why.

She's started furiously sucking on her feeding tube so might offer her a dummy again later. Poor kid. Obviously never gets fed.....

mrsboogie · 27/07/2008 13:57

vaccinations? already jw? sheesh. don't blame ya for for frettin.

mrsjupiter · 27/07/2008 14:35

Thanks for the support everyone - so happy to be back on this thread. Feel encouraged to keep up the pumping a bit longer, maybe until I see if holding her has an effect on the hormones.

Managed to keep my boobs private today.

Eva is 1.2 kg today and her milk input was upped to 7 ml per hour. We're so happy you'd think she'd won a Nobel Prize. If she goes up to 8 ml tomorrow then she won't need her iv feed anymore. Fingers crossed.

On the kangaroo care kaz I've been reading the who report and one of the key things that I think might be a problem is the trained staff aspect. This could be the crux of the problem in HK. I think that even if they won't let me do it while she's on cpap, I'm still going to give them the report because there's no reason why they couldn't rain the nurses to do it.

Will talk to my OB about the domperidone and about the dom perignon too - you don't ask you don't get.

Vaccinations JW. Wow. I can totally understand you fretting, but it's such a sign of progress too.