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Baby before marriage - parents NOT happy

656 replies

Oli16 · 30/01/2025 15:11

Me and my boyfriend are expecting our first baby and the way my parents have reacted makes me feel like I’m having a teen pregnancy (I’m 33, been with partner for 5 years who they love)

since telling them at Christmas they have been really weird about it, they say their excited but I’ve had multiple conversations with my mother who keeps asking me how “committed” my partner is and “why hasn’t he proposed to you yet” - I’m finding out their quite traditional and even though I say we have plans to get engaged / married quite soon, it’s left a very bitter feeling between us.

Its pretty common to have a baby before marriage but she says she “feels” for me which made me feel horrendous and upset.

has anyone else experienced people being dicks about having a baby before marriage?

so disappointed and I think they seem miffed too

OP posts:
mydogisthebest · 30/01/2025 20:00

Oli16 · 30/01/2025 15:39

We have bought a house together and own it equally :)

he has said he has plans to propose but I was the one wanting a baby soon.

Plans to propose! What plans need to be made to say "Will you marry me"?

5 years together, a house and now a baby on the way. What is he waiting for?

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:00

It’s a bit Jeremy Kyle to have your kids at your own wedding IMO. Not keen on 6 year old boys being their Dad’s ‘best man’ and daughter’s being bridesmaids. Just seems all the wrong way round. Doing marriage then children is a far better foundation for a stable upbringing.

Yes I know it’s 2025, I know we’re not in Victorian times. I was born in the 80s not the 40s FYI.

wigsonthegreenandhatsforthelifting · 30/01/2025 20:01

EdithBond · 30/01/2025 19:56

No surprise that’s in the Fail. Always take a dim view of unmarried mothers. Can’t have women expecting to be free of the kitchen sink.

Well it's Martin Lewis's article, and finance is his area of expertise.

Cakeandcardio · 30/01/2025 20:03

To be honest OP I hope you really have had deep discussions about finances so you know where you stand before embarking on a maternity leave. All too often women are expected to contribute 50% of the household bills whilst earning nothing. Make sure you really do protect yourself.
Your mum and dad will be worried about you.

Ppzd · 30/01/2025 20:04

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:00

It’s a bit Jeremy Kyle to have your kids at your own wedding IMO. Not keen on 6 year old boys being their Dad’s ‘best man’ and daughter’s being bridesmaids. Just seems all the wrong way round. Doing marriage then children is a far better foundation for a stable upbringing.

Yes I know it’s 2025, I know we’re not in Victorian times. I was born in the 80s not the 40s FYI.

I've been to weddings of close friends in the last few years who had their young kids at the wedding and it was beautiful! The kids still speak of their parents' wedding now and take such pride in the roles they played. All pretty well off and middle class, not Jeremy Kyle vibe at all 🤣🤣

mydogisthebest · 30/01/2025 20:05

Ppzd · 30/01/2025 20:04

I've been to weddings of close friends in the last few years who had their young kids at the wedding and it was beautiful! The kids still speak of their parents' wedding now and take such pride in the roles they played. All pretty well off and middle class, not Jeremy Kyle vibe at all 🤣🤣

Tacky is the word I would use

Whippetlovely · 30/01/2025 20:05

Op, load of people have babies before marriage it's not 1920s. I've been with partner 22 years 2 kids. Most people's marriages don't last that long so it's not a lack of commitment the house is jointly owned. Legally though we are better to be married, it's silly in this day and age they someone can be married for a few days and have more rights than us who have been together over 20 years. We may get married just for legalitys at some point but op you have plenty of time for that. Don't allow other peoples negative and backwards attitudes spoil your pregnancy!

Laura36TTC · 30/01/2025 20:06

devastatedagain · 30/01/2025 15:19

I think it's a bit embarrasing to be 33, in a long term relationship and pregnant with no marriage proposal. She is right to question his commitment.

Don’t be ridiculous! Not everyone gets married nowadays

Rossettes · 30/01/2025 20:07

@Elmatheele sorry to read that, I hope you can get back on your feet.

SwizzelsDoubleLollies · 30/01/2025 20:08

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:00

It’s a bit Jeremy Kyle to have your kids at your own wedding IMO. Not keen on 6 year old boys being their Dad’s ‘best man’ and daughter’s being bridesmaids. Just seems all the wrong way round. Doing marriage then children is a far better foundation for a stable upbringing.

Yes I know it’s 2025, I know we’re not in Victorian times. I was born in the 80s not the 40s FYI.

I hope your marriage doesn't split up and you choose to marry again. You can't be too confident. I mean you're only in the 30's 😁.

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:09

Ppzd · 30/01/2025 20:04

I've been to weddings of close friends in the last few years who had their young kids at the wedding and it was beautiful! The kids still speak of their parents' wedding now and take such pride in the roles they played. All pretty well off and middle class, not Jeremy Kyle vibe at all 🤣🤣

Sweet, but I think what a song and dance for a couple that have been shacked up for years and have a few kids already. It’s not the same as attending a wedding of a couple that are yet to embark on building a family together and have all that in front of them.

mydogisthebest · 30/01/2025 20:09

Whippetlovely · 30/01/2025 20:05

Op, load of people have babies before marriage it's not 1920s. I've been with partner 22 years 2 kids. Most people's marriages don't last that long so it's not a lack of commitment the house is jointly owned. Legally though we are better to be married, it's silly in this day and age they someone can be married for a few days and have more rights than us who have been together over 20 years. We may get married just for legalitys at some point but op you have plenty of time for that. Don't allow other peoples negative and backwards attitudes spoil your pregnancy!

Well hopefully she has plenty of time but nobody knows what the future holds do they?

If a couple want to get married why do they take so bloody long to do so?

Bristolinfeb · 30/01/2025 20:11

Oli16 · 30/01/2025 15:39

We have bought a house together and own it equally :)

he has said he has plans to propose but I was the one wanting a baby soon.

If your were to split now you would get 50% of the house but if you were married and divorced and you were the primary carer for your child then you and therefore your child would be getting more. Marriage doesn’t just protect you, it protects your child.

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:11

SwizzelsDoubleLollies · 30/01/2025 20:08

I hope your marriage doesn't split up and you choose to marry again. You can't be too confident. I mean you're only in the 30's 😁.

I hope it doesn’t too. I wouldn’t marry again. How mortifying. That’s the whole point in marriage. It’s for life. Going well so far though, so fingers crossed we’ll be fine.

GeorgeMichaelsCat · 30/01/2025 20:11

Interesting OP has not addressed any of the issues raised that are pertinent.

SwizzelsDoubleLollies · 30/01/2025 20:13

Moveoverdarlin · 30/01/2025 20:11

I hope it doesn’t too. I wouldn’t marry again. How mortifying. That’s the whole point in marriage. It’s for life. Going well so far though, so fingers crossed we’ll be fine.

He must like rude women who are full of themselves.

You're only in your 30's. Plenty of time for him to get fed up of you.

Crushed23 · 30/01/2025 20:14

FindusMakesPancakes · 30/01/2025 15:23

Read all the threads on here about couples splitting up after a baby arrives, or decades in, but not married. And the woman has given up her career to raise their children. And is then left with nothing and no rights other than CMS.

Your mum is concerned, that is all.

The answer is to not give up your career and make yourself dependent on a man. Not to get married willy nilly.

I earn more and have more assets than any man I have ever dated. I'll be damned if I risk that by getting married without a prenuptial agreement / in a country where pre-nuptial agreements aren't enforceable.

Rewis · 30/01/2025 20:15

I can't really think of many people in my agr group in social circle who got married before having kids, or have gotten married at all. Yea, you need to know what you're getting into. But it is not as big of a nightmare as people are commenting. You just need to he smart about it and keep financial independence.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 30/01/2025 20:17

Another one here who is raining on your parade I'm afraid! Your mother is right to question his commitment. Proposing is a lot quicker, easier and straightforward than purchasing a house, so why hasn't he done it yet?

Have you discussed technicalities of when you're on mat leave? Will you get full pay from your work? Or will you be on statutory? Will he be paying all of your missed pension contributions whilst you're not working, and topping them up if you then go on to part-time work? Will he be covering ALL household expenses during your one year of maternity leave? Or will he be expecting you to use your savings to pay your 50% share? Have you discussed expectations and roles you envisage you both have once you're parents?

I'd certainly be cautious in your shoes. You have no financial protection here, and even though you own the house together, you may still have to pay IHT on it if he were to die and you're not married.

Getting married should be a priority before having children, it's not modern or trendy to have children first, it's financially unwise for a woman.

My sister was in your position, with her boyfriend for years, 33years old, she got pregnant, they split up during her pregnancy and she was quite frankly fucked. She was left homeless and had to go stay with relatives for two years. Took her years to get a new job in her field. All the while, he's knocked off another kid with another woman, living the life of riley as a single bloke.

MigGril · 30/01/2025 20:17

I have told DD (who's only 17) that if she wants to have children with someone it's really important they get married first. While plenty of people do it, as a women it can leave you in finical difficulty if the man should leave. This is probably more important if you are the lower earner, which unfortunately is often the case for women.

There are so many threads on here where the op isn't married, has kids, has no name of the property they live in and would be left with nothing appart from maybe child maintenance. It's unfortunately still the only league way to protect yourself.

Moonshower · 30/01/2025 20:17

The stats I’m sure are there are more babies being born to unmarried couples than married now days. Along with more older mum than teenagers.

Theres nothing wrong with not being married, sorry your mum is putting a damper on this.

However you are protected more if married if anything would happen in the future. If you were talking about marriage I would be tempted to get legally married (and not really tell anyone) then have a ceremony in a few years if you want a party.

Or you are perfectly within your rights to get married if you aren’t fussed. It’s your life do what you want.

SixtySomething · 30/01/2025 20:18

ginasevern · 30/01/2025 18:42

Well, not according to the vast majority of posters on here. Women are (usually) better protected with a marriage contract. I don't make the laws and they'd look very different if I did! But for now that's the way it is. I don't see how that statement of fact is in any way contentious.

Sorry, I wasn't clear!
I meant that the 'right-on' people are 'right off the mark', not you.
I was agreeing with your point.

ReadingSoManyThreads · 30/01/2025 20:18

Crushed23 · 30/01/2025 20:14

The answer is to not give up your career and make yourself dependent on a man. Not to get married willy nilly.

I earn more and have more assets than any man I have ever dated. I'll be damned if I risk that by getting married without a prenuptial agreement / in a country where pre-nuptial agreements aren't enforceable.

That's good in your situation, but frustratingly, so many women make this critical mistake!!

Bugbabe1970 · 30/01/2025 20:18

Msmoonpie · 30/01/2025 15:38

Unless you earn more than him AND will be in the position to go back full time it is at best unwise to have a baby without being married.

Marriage gives all sorts of legal protections.

  1. If you or him are seriously ill the spouse will be asked to make decisions. If you aren’t married you/he may not have any input.
  2. If (god forbid) one of you dies and the other has left anything to you you’ll pay tax on it.
  3. If you aren’t married and one of you dies without having made provision in a will - the other will get nothing.
  4. This one is obvious - if you are married your assets are joint. Please tell us you co own or co rent your home ?

Thats just what I can think of off the top of my head.

This with bells on!

Whippetlovely · 30/01/2025 20:20

mydogisthebest · 30/01/2025 20:09

Well hopefully she has plenty of time but nobody knows what the future holds do they?

If a couple want to get married why do they take so bloody long to do so?

Ask them, maybe it's finances? I don't really see the point in being engaged for years myself. Plenty of people don't want to get married but then you don't get engaged.