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Smoking during pregnancy

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QueenGuinevere · 16/12/2023 01:31

Hi, I have question and maybe someone has experienced the same as I am, and can help me.

My best friend and I have been very close since we met on the first day of primary school. I never liked children, I found them noisy and was uncomfortable around them. My friend was the exact opposite and has talked about having children since we were 15-16 years old. She would babysit for anyone that asked and wanted a child more than anything.

We’re now both 43 years old and because I found a man more amazing than I’d thought possible I now have the sweetest 14 year old boy and the giggliest 10 year old girl. My friend has never been anything but happy for me and she loves being around my children.

After kissing a lot of frogs she finally found a great guy a couple of years ago and now she’s finally pregnant.

The issue is that she has smoked since she was 16 and she’s tried quitting now, but she’s not able to. It is tearing her apart. She is feeling horribly guilty and it is ruining her ability to be happy that she finally is pregnant. She is hiding her smoking from her partner and cries almost every time we’re together.

While I am the kind that would not touch alcohol (I am not judging those who do) while pregnant and have never smoked, I hold her when she cries and I always tell her that the fact that she’s been able to go from 10-12 cigarettes a day to 4-5 is a huge feat and that the fact that she has managed that because she loves her unborn child so much is something she should be proud of.

She has these doomsday scenarios in her head that she’s killing her baby and that she’ll miscarry and that it will be her fault, and I keep assuring her that she absolutely will not. I’ve told her that every cigarette she manages not to smoke is a win and that 4-5 a day is not going to damage her unborn child.

The thing is, that from what I’ve read of research on the topic, this might not be true. As I understand it smoking increases the probability of asthma in children and that when she smokes she affects the amount of oxygen her unborn child gets through the placenta.

I truly believe the fact that she’s managed to cut her smoking in half is huge and that it must have been very difficult to do.

I will continue to support her and do what I can to try to help her get to a mental place where she can enjoy the pregnancy she has wanted since she was a teenager.

But should I try to encourage her to quit completely? I’m also worried I’m enabling something that might hurt her child and that she might cause her child to get chronic illnesses they would otherwise not have.

We have never talked about potential harmful side effects and I think she’s very aware of them, and that is most likely why this is so hard for her, and me bringing that up might only make it worse. It sounds like (from what she’s telling me) that I’m the one friend she has that is being nothing but supportive. And I’m afraid of what it would do to her if I too start trying to get her to quit instead.

I have not told my husband that she is smoking because I think he would judge her and tell my friend’s partner. In a way it feels like I’m carrying her secret too.

What do I do? 🥺

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AndThatWasNY · 16/12/2023 14:35

It's two fold. Firstly she might cause damage to her baby, and that will forever make her blame herself. Secondly if something is wrong with the baby she will blame herself. It's already a high risk pregnancy due to age.
My friend has a son with learning difficulties that can be as a result of smoking in pregnancy. She does and beats herself up about it.
I was a 20na day smoker and hypnotism worked amazingly!

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 16/12/2023 14:35

PaperDoIIs · 16/12/2023 08:17

You must be severely lacking in imagination then .

I agree with @AlwaysGinPlease.

PosyPrettyToes · 16/12/2023 14:44

I think smokers massively underestimate how horrifically bad they smell. Someone smoking 5 cigarettes a day will still smell terrible so her partner likely does know.

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 16/12/2023 14:48

PosyPrettyToes · 16/12/2023 14:44

I think smokers massively underestimate how horrifically bad they smell. Someone smoking 5 cigarettes a day will still smell terrible so her partner likely does know.

Agreed.
Lots of smokers say 'I don't smell' yet pretty much every smoker I've met smells (except one lady I met when DS was tiny who I wasn't even aware smoked until I saw her smoking a roll up).

gamerchick · 16/12/2023 14:49

Thing is, these days it's not either or. It's not those stupid plastic cartridges, there is a load of options to get a nicotine fix.

Tell her to pull on her big girls pants, stop the tears and indulgence and join a stop smoking programme. She doesn't even have to ask her midwife to refer her, she can go to boots or something and ask.

If she wasn't whinging about it I probably would live and let live. But I can't bear someone complaining and crying about something they have some control over.

MademoiselleFrenglish · 16/12/2023 14:54

OP she could try nicotine patches. I'm on them now and they do more than take the edge off. She could couple them with the lowest nicotine level vape in the beginning if she still needs the habit of going outside to blow some smoke, it should help a lot. When I'm feeling really tempted to smoke (usually only when I'm out in the evening at a bar, with smokers) I'll put 2 patches on until I'm home. Haven't caved yet and don't get the craving much, when I do I can ignore it, and I'm a person with very little willpower.

Boomboom22 · 16/12/2023 14:58

Tbh 5 a day is probably the same as using the tube and train daily so if she lives in a clean air area it is better / equal to a London commuter.

kitsuneghost · 16/12/2023 15:07

OK so smoking is bad when you are pregnant we all know that but the stress your friend is putting on herself is also very bad for the baby.
I know I'll get jumped on for saying it but there was a time when smoking in pregnancy was normal and most babies turned out fine.

Just reassure her that if she can get down to 1 or 2 a day, her baby will be fine. That gives her a more achievable target.

AlwaysGinPlease · 16/12/2023 15:15

Thank you @Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter

It's crazy that anyone thinks it's acceptable these days.

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/12/2023 15:27

It's smoking whilst pregnant apologists bingo.

'People smoked loads back in the day and babies turned out fine'.

'The stress of worrying about smoking is worse for the baby than the actual smoking'.

'Pollution is worse'.

Away and have a word with yourselves.

kitsuneghost · 16/12/2023 15:28

AccidentallyWesAnderson · 16/12/2023 15:27

It's smoking whilst pregnant apologists bingo.

'People smoked loads back in the day and babies turned out fine'.

'The stress of worrying about smoking is worse for the baby than the actual smoking'.

'Pollution is worse'.

Away and have a word with yourselves.

Do you smoke?

Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 16/12/2023 15:31

kitsuneghost · 16/12/2023 15:28

Do you smoke?

Nobody is denying it's not always easy to stop, but if carrying another life isn't an incentive then what is?

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Perhapsanorhertimewouldbebetter · 16/12/2023 15:41

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I didn't any of those things you have written about her, I said I struggle to understand how anyone could continue smoking while pregnant and/or keep smoking if actively trying to get pregnant (and that goes for the males too).

Ladyj84 · 16/12/2023 16:05

That's impossible the hiding it from partner you can those the smell lol.
Anyway I quit for all pregnancies, just stopped and actually after last one never started again but 2 family members and a friend they cut down but didn't stop and there babies were fine

Hollie23m · 05/02/2024 06:45

Hello

so I’m a mummy of 3 and on my 4th pregnancy I smoked for years after after my last and once I found out I was pregnant I went on to an ecig to help me it has help a lot I still have days we’re I struggle a lot especially while being ill. But she is doing great and just tell her if she feels guilty to speak to her midwife and they will help her nock the last few

hope this helps

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